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[China Sports]

If anyone has any technical questions regarding AK systems of operation, assembly, disassembly, maintainence, manufacturing procedures etc. feel free to post and I'll get back to you ASAP.

[China Sports]

many things distinguish the 2, for one, a normal legend has a 16.5" barrel while the National Match has a longer barrel assembly. The national match guns as far as I remember say National Match on the reciever. Other then that, the weapons are very similar.

[jks2001]

I have seen on this site, in the Polytech
section, a reference to B-west Polytech
Legends having receivers which do not hold
up after 2000 rounds. I just purchased a
preban underfolder, and I would like to know
how to tell if I have a B-west. I see a
386 in a circle engraved on the left side.

Thanks for you help, I am somewhat concerned.

[Gary]

What features distinguish a milled Poly-Tech National Match Legend from an ordinary milled Poly-Tech Legend?

[China Sports]

I have tried time and time again to get them to remove that article. PolyTech and B-West have NO relation. The weapon you have is a PolyTech weapon, and a fine one at that i might add.

B West guns are stamped "Made in USA". those are the guns to worry about, weapons IMPORTED by B-West are of no worry.

[col_kurtz]

CS,

I agree, poly techs have gotten a bad rap because of that eval on this board. When the SLR 95 gets 4 rifles and a Poly Tech gets 3 there is definitely something wrong. This is like saying that a Ford is better than a Lexus

[China Sports]

Col_K,
As you said, Polys get a bad rep and are actually some of the best, if not the best post ban weapons you can buy and in my opinion, the best pre ban.
I also agree with what you said about the 3 and 4 thing. I love this site, but I must say people on this site do not even have experience with half of the weapons they review. Being an avid AK person, I've fired plenty of AKs. Polish, Chinese, Egyptian, Hungarian, Bulgarian, Romanian, Korean, German etc. and I can say I love polish guns as a first, but chinese to me are a close second.

[scrollock27]

i have a polytech pre ban side folder with a cleaning kit in the stock.it sorta snaps in and out of the stock.anyway,in the kit theres this tool that i cant figure out.one end of it is flat like a screwdriver the other is notched like a small wrench and in the middle theres this thing that pivots.any explaination would be appreaciated.thanks

[China Sports]

that tool is the sight adjustment tool. you set the end over the front sight post and turn it to change elevation of the front sight post. Windage is done by drifting that post left and right.

[Big Dog]

Since you offered...

What is the difference in the mags for .223 AKs between the Polytech vs the Norincos and others?

What about the 7.62s?

thanks,

Keith (Big Dog)
kewalsh@prodigy.net

[Polyak]

China Sports,
I was told by a couple of people back in September when I bought my Polytech AKS 762 SP that the muzzle nut welded on the end of the barrel hides real threads, is this true on all post ban Polytech's? I've been wanting to take the dremel tool to the welds, but keep putting it off. It seems like they went a little overboard spot welding mine on.
Thanks for info you may have,
polyak

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[China Sports]

Big Dog: Norinco AKs use a "standard" type AK mag, but re-designed for the .223 cartridge. The locking mechanism is the same. PolyTech .223s have a special lip on the magazine that make them only work in Poly .223s. PolyTech .223s have the same feed ramp geometry as 7.62 Poly's and as far as I have heard can be trouble. All 7.62X39mm AK mags I've ever seen are the same and should fit in almost any AK.

Polyak: The tack welds do hide muzzle threads. I've never seen a post-ban poly without them. Poly stopped import after the 89 ban, but these are the rifles caught in customs. a post ban a friend of mine had ground his welds off, and permenantly attached a slant comp. I can't be SURE yours has threads, but all I have seen do have them.

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[Polyak]

Thanks for the encouragment China Sports. It's going to take some bluing touch up when I get get grind all the freaking welds off that were slopped on to this one, It's by far the worst one (meaning the most welds) I have ever seen.

[waterdoctor]

I have a Poly M-14S.308 Stamped POLYTECH CHINA. When were these made and how many were imported?

Thanks MEC

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[Ironhandjohn]

Chinasports I got one for you: Is the spring that holds the spike bayonet open or closed on my AKS 762(pre-ban) supposed to be weak? I swear that the spring in my ball-point pen has more strength than the one in the bayonet!! If it turns out that the spring is sacked, where can I find a new one? OK so it was more than one, but talking 'bout my spiker gets me all worked up!!

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It's really simple,just follow steering and flow with it. You see, Ironhand's my thing!

[China Sports]

Ironhand: Nope, that spring should feel like the spring on an SKS bayonet. Pretty stout. im sure you can pick up an SKS bayonet at a gunshow for like $4 or so and take the spring out of it. that should remedy your problem.

BTW: The spike bayonet lifts off. no drilling or punching required. You put it 90 degrees as if using it for a monopod. Pull on the spring loaded part and unhook it from its pivot rivet.

~CS

[jsraggmann]

China Sports: I have a pre-ban Polytech that I occasionally fire. I want to put together a spare parts kit while the parts are available. What parts do you recommend buying and where are they available? Thanks.

[C-Note]

I own a legend with serial #p-47 20xx, do you have any info if this is an early or late import. Also, it has the proper wood but it's dark stained as opposed to the red stain. Thanks,
C

[SHOOTER]

Did the early imports of the legends come with only one mag in the box?

[C-Note]

I think mine is early and it came with only one mag and a non-descript box to boot.

C

[China Sports]

jsraggmann - As for a spare parts kit, I suggest you try to find the spring set. Hammer spring, disconnector spring etc as well as a spare hammer. I honestly feel even the hammer is unnessecarry, but better safe than sorry. if u wanna be totally safe get a new set of trigger components and all the springs for them. that should last much longer than you will.

C-Note - Your weapon seems to be of moderate/middle import judging by the serial number. Legend rifles started at P47-00001 as far as I recall and went from there. I own an early import rifle and it came in a non-descript box (probably military as opposed to commercial). The number on mine is P47-000XX. It has the dark red stained wood and came with 3 magazines. It could just be the way the stain took to your specific wood.

SHOOTER - As far as I've ever seen, every legend I've had my hands on always had 3 magazines in the box, but it wouldn't surprise me with the orginization of the dummy companies, if some only came with 1 magazine.

[manzai]

When I bought my POLY LEGEND it came w/ only l mag in the box....found more at WHOLESALE GUNS AND AMMO, INC....they were with the chrome followers...but expensive...compared to other brands.

Also, I bought mine NIB ..about 1996 or 97???...the wholesaler said they were in a warehouse.."found only recently"....about $700.oo if i remember right.

[JA]

I have seen several dealers sell a AK and pull another from under the table. Open the box remove 2 mags and put the price tag on. Then slide the mags under the table for sale later.
Also seen some do the same thing with boxed SKS's chest pouches and then sell it seprate.

[ED4x]

If you change the front sight base you will need to remove the weld to remove the nut since the barrel is threaded.

If you use the threaded barrel you have to either silver solder or weld the muzzle brake on.

I am not sure but you may have to add more US parts to keep it legal.

[RapidTrans]

Just got a Polytech AKS from CDNN for $450 complete. I am happy with everything except that welded barrel nut. If I grind it off, I will probably mess up the front sight even more. Where can I get a new front sight? For a more traditional looking muzzel brake, what would you suggest and from where?

[flash_hider]

I recently bought a pre-ban Legend -- it is all original (no modifications), all matching #'s, threaded barrel, etc...oh, so sweet...my question is -- is it legal as is, because it is a pre-ban (and I will not modify it in any way), or does the muzzle nut (or flash supressor) need to be spot welded. It would make me sick to have to do that to this fine rifle in order to be PC http://www.ak-47.net/akcgi/frown.gif

[Ironhandjohn]

Welding brakes on muzzles only applies to recent imports. If the Legend is a true pre '89 import, then the threaded muzzle is perfectly legal!

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It's really simple,just follow steering and flow with it. You see, Ironhand's my thing!

[flash_hider]

Ironhandjohn, thanks for the info. It's a true pre-ban (1988). I just wasn't sure about it.

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[Ironhandjohn]

I have a question on the "vintage" of my Poly-Tech. It is a Poly-Tech AKS-762 imported by Keng's. It has the spike bayonet, stamped receiver, and dingy blonde furniture. The serial # is(with x's covering up the last couple of #'s)PW85-762-11xx. I would like to know when, round abouts, the rifle was imported. I know some of the previous owners(kind of like being married to the "ex" of several of your friends!)but no one I know is the original owner. She is a shooter, not a collector, as the amount of barrel wear indicates lots of use!

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It's really simple,just follow steering and flow with it. You see, Ironhand's my thing!

[Burninammo]

I have a post ban stamped poly tech. With moderate care, what is an estimate on how many rounds before I would need a new barrel ? Thanks.

[China Sports]

As for barrel wear, my personal opinion is somewhere on the end of 30-40 thousand rounds. Some people say 20, i say BS. These rifles still come off military production lines, and those barrels are made like the energizer bunny. They keep going and going and going....

~CS
OUT

[Polyak]

That's pretty much how I feel too. These barrels were made to take heavy full auto fire. Shooting semi auto should atleast double their life, IMO.

[Ironhandjohn]

I talked with slapshot a few months ago, and he gave me the scoop on import dates on Poly's. He said that the "PW" prefix stands for "Poly-Tech Wood", meaning the rifle was imported with a wood, as opposed to a folding, stock. The "85" stands for 1985, the year my rifle came into the country. Since he was employed at Keng's, I figure his info is good. He also told me about some .223 Poly's that he converted to 7.62, and that is why you will occasionally come across a 7.62 Poly with a 223 prefix stamped on it. Interesting stuff!!