which is the best post-ban?

[Muzzle Flashxx]

Im probably going to get a post-ban AK soon, so I was just wondering which would be the best for 600 or less? Are the SLR-100H any good, because I saw them in SGN for 569.95?

[ED4x]

Do you want a parts gun or an original import weapon?

I have a SLR-95 and ordered a SLR-96. They have the thumbhole stocks and accept all highcap mags with out worrying about haveing the correct number of US oarts in them.

So if you want an original rifle you can get a SLR-96 with wood stock for $399 from SOG in SGN or gunlist.

Just a thought.

I don't know anything about the SLR-100H but the SLR-96 has a cheaper price tag and it's all bulgarian.

[Muzzle Flashxx]

Wow only $399!!! I though a SLR-96 would be around $700. That will defenatley be my rifle, though I probably wont be able to get one till next june unfortunaley
(18th birthday). Out of curiosity, is it a thumbhole stock or pistol grip? Thanks a lot!!!

[ED4x]

Thumbhole wood stock.

But you can get a K-Var US made pistol grip stock with mag followers and floor plates and not change anything internal to make it legal pistol grip rifle.

If you have someone over 18 that could buy one and put it up for your birthday thats your best bet.

I doubt these rifles will last very long at that price but I have mine on order.

Last year at gun shows I have seen SLR-95(polymer thumbhole stock) going for between $700-$750 and the SLR-96(wood thumbhole stock) for around $800.

Now if you live in california you may not beable to get one.

[S-S-R-9-9]

I recently sold two AK's, a ArsenalUSA SSR99 assembled by Gordon Technologies, and an SLR95MB. I made good profit on both, and feel both are nice rifles. The SSR99 was by far the better assembled weapon. Your run of the mill overseas factory does not put the greatest of effort in assembling the semi auto civilian stuff. On the other hand, guys like the owners of MSC and Gordon Technologies, will go the extra mile to assemble a quality product. I would say they are atleast semi custom built weapon (if not full custom). About the only draw back might be that many American fire control parts being used in these rifles, are of a soft nature. That can be remedied by installing better made American parts. For those of you that say "but where do I get these better parts", well Gordon Technologies is being reported to have made special orders for good American made heat treated parts. I'm sure he won't be the last. These guys are building their companies names, and the best will go the extra mile. The soft fire control being somrthing that I knew would have a coming remedy. As for the rest of the workmanship on guns such as G-Techs AK's, they show far better quality assembly than the all imported stuff. Have your gun built by a pro that cares about his REPUTATION (like G-Tech or MSC), rather than by some low paid monkey in a far away land. Jerry Gordon had a story about all the parts he had to reject while building the SSR99 rifles for ArsenalUSA. These parts came from the Arsenal of Bulgaria, and had been factory inspected. Well that might have been alright when the Bulgarians were building SLR95's, but Jerry rejected many of the parts because they did not meet proper specs. Have Jerry build you one from scratch using all new Bulgarian parts that have his stamp of approval. Have him put the legal amount of American parts in. Make sure those parts are the new ones with the proper hardness. This will mean you have a custom built AK http://www.ak-47.net/akcgi/smile.gif Forget the monkeys, and forget Century Arms junk! I sell the Century stuff, and I know it's pretty crappy. They may work and all, but still leaves no pride in ownership.

[recon]

I agree you can`t go wrong with either Mike@MSC or Gordon Tech`s rifles. I know Mike makes the SLR-1OO`s for Tenn Guns and Gordon makes his SLR-100`s for Classic Arms. Prices are affordable also. These seem to be right now the cream of the crop!

[sparkky]

Don't overlook a Poly Tech post ban for around 5 bills if you can find one.

[Muzzle Flashxx]

Well I guess im in a bind now:

SLR-96 (400)
Polytech Postban (500)
SLR-100 (569)
SSR99 (?)
hmm seems im in a bind http://www.ak-47.net/akcgi/smile.gif

(PS) I would like to get a new AK not a use parts kit

[This message has been edited by Muzzle Flash (edited 07-10-2000).]

[S-S-R-9-9]

The SLR100 will probably be a nice gun to buy. Just to let you know one thing about them, they are built on new Bulgarian receivers and use the legal amount of new American parts, but the balance of the gun are from Hungarian surplus (used) AK's. These guns are NOT ALL NEW MANUFACTURE. From what I understand, the Hungarian AK's used were not abused guns, and may well be a good option. Just wanted you to know these details before you made a purchase http://www.ak-47.net/akcgi/smile.gif These new loopholes for American assembled AK's, are (IMO) placing on our market, some of the worst and best made AK's we have ever seen. Gordon Tech and MSC are the ones producing the cream of the crop, while Century Arms could F@#k up a wet dream. Thru early on customer complaints, they knew perfectly well about the problems of Maadi & SAR crooked sights, mis matched wood, poorly machined wood, horrible wood finish, rust on guns, some poorly finished metal, and soft parts. They just don't care! You think they might want to stop producing the guns until they can atleast correct the soft parts and crooked parts issue......HA! They don't care! People are buying, and thats all that matters to them. The other thing is that Century is a company that seeks to buy the cheapest parts available, for the bigest profit margins, with diregard for the products overall quality. I can just imagine their QC people inpecting a newly assembled weapon, "It shoots, ship it out!". HELL NO will they go to Bulgaria, Poland, ect, to get their parts, if it means paying more money for them. They are a big company that at times brings in some neat complete surplus guns, but when it comes to their own built interpretations of military weapons......WATCH OUT! When they produce weapons themselves, they usually produce junk! I have seen some of their STG/FAL Based rifles, some looked like SH!T and were built on cast Hesse receivers, but some (just some) of the others that were built on Brazilian Imbel receivers, looked pretty nice. Then I remember the fact that Century can f$%k up a wet dream, and it just keeps me from making a mistake of buying one http://www.ak-47.net/akcgi/smile.gif

[ED4x]

If you want a post ban poly tech you can get them from CDNN for $429.99. They have a choat dragunov style stock and are pretty nice rifles. I have a couple from them.

But me personally I like the milled reciever over stamped recievers thats why I have a SLR-95 and ordered SLR-96. The poly tech CDNN has are stamped reciever blued rifles.

Hope that helps on the poly tech's.

[Grendel]

I thought Gondon Tech said this just a week ago that there are MANY people that build AKM for Tenn Guns and Classic Arms and probably even other companies. I know I am a AR guy I just dont see what makes the BIG difference? AKM are not sniper rifles and are not made with tolerance in mind. I once spoke to a NRA group and they all said that if you start to precision build a AKM you would have to custom milled almost every part or say thats good enough. Lets be honest what exactly is so much different? Or is this a bunch of hoopla from people like me that are not builders and really do not know?

[S-S-R-9-9]

You don't need to have a custom built sniper rifle for it to be a better built rifle. A simple example that should get the point across: Two guys buy a Revell model T from Walmart, both purchase all the paints and glue needed for assembly. The one guy is building it for his nephew, and decides to just put it together without too much effort, because he does not want to spend much time on it. The other guy is building it for his friend, and as in the past, goes the extra mile to make them the best he can. These guys may have started off using the same parts (same kit), but the quality anal guy takes the time to cut off any extra plastic and properly fit every part, he makes sure things are installed straight, he inspects every part to make sure they are properly shaped (if not, he corrects them). He is the type that will make sure glue is not smeared all over the windshields, he will paint it with care. So if you wanted one of these guys to build one for you, which guy would you choose to do it for you? Your answer might be different than mine, but I would ask the QUALITY ANAL guy to do it http://www.ak-47.net/akcgi/smile.gif Just because the AK assembly is not rocket science, does not mean that all builders will be equal. In fact, Jerry Gordon of Gordon Technologies has pretty much said that in his own words. You see, Jerry is that anal QUALITY GUY, he is the guy that will inspect the imported parts for you (and discard the failing parts) , he will make sure that the head spacing is consistant with his quality requirements, he will make sure your sight is on straight, he will take care of you if his company does let a problem slip by. He will concentrate on detail, so that you can feel a pride of ownership in owning a product his company assembled. Now the other guy, he is like the Century Arms Company, just wants to get it done. Heck yeah, you can take two kits of equal quality and have two different people assemble them, and then end up with two totally different levels of quality. figuring that out takes no rocket science, just common sense. Not all builders are created equal, and that is not even touching on the issue of what level of quality the parts being used for assembly may be. That of course is another issue. My final thoughts, if the parts used are quality, and the assembly is quality, it can only equal a QUALITY PRODUCT http://www.ak-47.net/akcgi/smile.gif

[Muzzle Flashxx]

I can't thank you guys enough for all your help. It seems like the SLR-100H is the gun to go with. Thanks to everyone who posted a reply http://www.ak-47.net/akcgi/smile.gif !!!

[akpatriot]

blue ridge precision is one of the companies that makes ak's for classic arms.I spoke to them last week and am having them build an milled ak for me.I also am ordering a complete milled bulgarian/hungarian rifle from classic arms next week.i will let you all know what they are really like.the word i got was they are great guns!

[Muzzle Flashxx]

Well folks,

It looks like I won't be getting an AK for a while, because im getting a Romanian SKS. I simply dont have the money, but im shure ill love my SKS.

-ive already won an auction for a scope and mount http://www.ak-47.net/akcgi/smile.gif http://cgi3.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dllViewBidsDutchHighBidder&item=397934410

[This message has been edited by Muzzle Flash (edited 08-05-2000).]

[Ned Flanders]

I think you should get a Hungarian SA-85m. Here are a few that wont cost much more than that SKS. http://www.gunbroker.com/auction/ViewItem.asp?item=434395
There are other auction boards too where you can find one for about $399. Good luck

[prime]

You can get AKs for as little as $179.00 out of SGN. That's including magazines and cleaning kit although they are single stack.

Originally posted by Muzzle Flash:
Well folks,

It looks like I won't be getting an AK for a while, because im getting a Romanian SKS. I simply dont have the money, but im shure ill love my SKS.

-ive already won an auction for a scope and mount http://www.ak-47.net/akcgi/smile.gif http://cgi3.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dllViewBidsDutchHighBidder&item=397934410

[This message has been edited by Muzzle Flash (edited 08-05-2000).]

[Bulletxx]

The Norinco Mac 90 with a milled reciever is a good choice. Search around and find one in good conditon. They will run $300 to $425. Many of them are close to the quality of the Polytech Legends. On the other hand you can't go wrong with the Bulgarians either, but they are a little pricey.

[Dead]

Found SLR-100H milled with pistol grip for 448 at www.jgsales.com (http://www.jgsales.com)

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