Roll Call

[Gundwulf]

Ok, so how many of you have Polish kits built or going in for a build? Lets talk! :D

[Twisted]

I have one enroute from Global. Ordered on Wednesday afternoon so it should be here either tomorrow or tuesday. I need to call FAC and see if they have any FEG recievers like someone here said. After that has been obtained everything eles is downhill. (I work on a very limited budget, being 16 and not having enough time to have a job isn't all too good...). If they don't have FEG recievers I guess I'm going with Krinks from sarco even though there is more work involved with it.

Also for american parts... I'll need 6 of them if I go with the FEG reciever, so:

Gas Piston
hammer
trigger
disconnector
slant muzzle break
and... ummm pistol grip I guess...


Any alternatives to the pistol grip while retaining the FEG reciever? If I go krinks I won't have to worry about it...

[Gundwulf]

Global said they are out of FEG receivers, except for ones used for their own builds. You could build on a US made reciever and retain the original polish grip, which is what I am doing.

[mbakercad]

I ordered a select kit on Friday, said it will ship out Monday. I think I'm going to wait for Globals US made reciever to start shipping this fall.

If I was to have the gun built later this year with the folding stock fixed open, would it be difficult to 'free' it up later? If that can be easily done I would get it built this year but if it is pretty involved I would likely wait and see how things start to pan out for the sunsetting of the crime bill.

[Gundwulf]

Originally posted by mbakercad

If I was to have the gun built later this year with the folding stock fixed open, would it be difficult to 'free' it up later? If that can be easily done I would get it built this year but if it is pretty involved I would likely wait and see how things start to pan out for the sunsetting of the crime bill. The underfolders can be simply pinned open, and if the bill does indeed sunset next year, it will only need to be unpinned in order to be functional. Be sure to get your muzzle brake hi-temp soldered in instead of welded, that way it will be much easier to undo, if the bill is to go away.

[DrugRunR]

I got 2 kits in my possession right now.
I did not pay for SELECT.
One is almost mint, and the other one has some light rust on the gas tube.

I intend to send the 2 kits, and 1 kit from Z_recto off to INRANGE and have them do the work.
They can rivet and headpace it for $125
I think Z will have his refinished as well.

We are gonna make standard stock guns since we have Hesse receivers.

I already have a Chinese underfolder, and one is ENOUGH.
It is cool and all, but it is not very fun to shoot.

CHARLES

[jlittle]

Right at the moment I have a Polish stock set on a Hungarian Pre Ban fixed stock, but I am thinking of having one of these kits made up into another AKM. Times are good right now for us.

[gunluvver]

I haven't decided what receiver to use yet. I understand OOW's receiver markings get obliterated if you put on the original folder. I heard that a Krink's are positioned elsewhere. I'm also thinking of using the FAC flat and giving that a try. Or just wait for Global's receiver. Maybe Jimmy can have a run done with the cutouts for the folder already in!

[Twisted]

Maybe we should email OOW and petition for them to move their info? Maybe just for us... I would shell out 80-90 bucks if they just move that shit.

[GUNSMOKE]

I would like to jump in here and make a recommendation. I used Mark Krebs of Krebs Custom this time for the build of a USA Version Tantal WZ88. I bought a FEG 5.45 Receiver, actually they are NGM receivers that house the Bulgarian mags perfectly snug.

The build was a bit more than INRANGE, but I must tell you the workmanship from KREBS is just outstanding. Every Rivet is perfect including the overall finished product. I recommend them HIGHLY. The turn around time was under four weeks.

They also can supply all the US made parts, some of which they make themselves. If your looking for an as new perfect example this is definitely the way to go.

This is not a slam of INRANGE in any manner as they have done work in the past for me, that was entirely satisfactory, but the workmanship of Krebs job well I'll just leave well enough alone as appropriate.

JS if your reading this thank you for the mint WZ88 kit, it is always a pleasure to do business, advise and promote you as you deserve it!

AKE ;)

[tomelroy]

go with the select kits...I ordered some select and some standard. Most of the non select kits have some rust. It worth the extra 20 if its rust free. After bead blasting the rusted parts I am sure they will be fine, but will have some pitting.

[308 Sniper]

I've been thinking of purchasing one of these polish kits, but was wondering how much the build would cost me. I would like to make it a fixed underfolder, but don't know what receiver to use. From what I've read Ohio Ord. receivers have markings where the underfolder holes would go. Don't really want to use Hesse. What are my options? For those of you sending your kits to Inrange, what prices are they quoting you? Do they have a website? I guess I could always go with the Firing Line, but that would significantly increase the cost of the build considering that their milled underfolder receivers cost around $400. I'm sure they are well worth it, but I don't have that kind of money for just the receiver. When we start talking about spending $800 or more for a custom build on a hesse or Ohio receiver, I start thinking about which preban aks I could get for a little more. Any opinions and help is appreciated. I guess I am really asking for help in making the decision to go with a custom built ak rather than spending that same money or a little more on a prebuilt preban ak. Thanks

[Gundwulf]

Originally posted by 308 Sniper
I've been thinking of purchasing one of these polish kits, but was wondering how much the build would cost me. I would like to make it a fixed underfolder, but don't know what receiver to use. From what I've read Ohio Ord. receivers have markings where the underfolder holes would go. Don't really want to use Hesse. What are my options? For those of you sending your kits to Inrange, what prices are they quoting you? Do they have a website? I guess I could always go with the Firing Line, but that would significantly increase the cost of the build considering that their milled underfolder receivers cost around $400. I'm sure they are well worth it, but I don't have that kind of money for just the receiver. When we start talking about spending $800 or more for a custom build on a hesse or Ohio receiver, I start thinking about which preban aks I could get for a little more. Any opinions and help is appreciated. I guess I am really asking for help in making the decision to go with a custom built ak rather than spending that same money or a little more on a prebuilt preban ak. Thanks

I dont know of a US made reciever that you can put the fixed underfolder on. Hesse information is in the way, as well as OOW. I was going to go the same route, now Im just going to go laminated wood buttstock. If you do find a reciever you can use with the fixed buttstock, ive been getting build quotes at $325+

[gunluvver]

Go to the Global Trades forum. Jimmy from Global says that they haven't decided where they are going to put their markings yet on their new receiver. If we petition hard enough maybe we can get the markings put out of the way. Maybe even some pre punched underfolder recievers could be built if we show enough interest. Downside is their receivers won't be out until fall. Go to the "Global receivers" thread and voice your wants.

[VodkaMan28]

308 sniper I believe Sarcoinc has a US made Krink reciever that can be used with an under folding stock. I believe the markings are in the front half of the reciever. Plus the best part is it less than 50 bucks. BTw it is a stamped reciever not sure if you were looking for stamped or milled

[Silver Dollar]

Originally posted by Twisted
I have one enroute from Global. Ordered on Wednesday afternoon so it should be here either tomorrow or tuesday.



I phoned my order in on March 27th, and I still have not received it:confused:

[Gundwulf]

Originally posted by VodkaMan28
308 sniper I believe Sarcoinc has a US made Krink reciever that can be used with an under folding stock. I believe the markings are in the front half of the reciever. Plus the best part is it less than 50 bucks. BTw it is a stamped reciever not sure if you were looking for stamped or milled I didn't even know SARCO has a reciever. Do they manufacture it?

[Fathom]

I've been all over their site like stink on sh*t and I can't find it anywhere. If someone finds it, please let me know.:confused:

[VodkaMan28]

If you have SGN from March 20th pg 124 add reads

AK RECEIVERS BEST QUALITY KRINKS MANUFACTURE.
He was the best but went off the scene but we have aquired a small stock of these receivers for your pleaure. Here's why you should buy our receivers:

* Hardened to Rockwell 35-39
* Case hardened .019" deep
* Same thickness as European receivers .
* Cut for single or double hook
* Bolt rails are installed.
* Fits all AK kits except Yugo and Chinese
* Ready for finish
* Precision U.S. made
OUR SPECIAL PRICE $49.95
Now with that spelled out maybe I should have waited to tell you guys this till I got to my FFL LOL. Think Sarco will give me a price break for copying their add? LOL guess not Hope there is enough for all of us and I hope they are still in stock

[Fathom]

It's about the same price as the Ohio Ordnance Universal AKM stamped receiver. Can anyone tell me why one is better than the other when using it with a Polish kit? I've never claimed to be receiver savy so any input would be appreciated. TIA.

[VodkaMan28]

Not sure where the Ohio Ord. serial numbers are stamped but I heard on teh krink it is forward so it gives you room to drill out teh two large holes needed for the underfolding stock.

[Fathom]

Seein' how these are the ones Arsenal USA is currently using on their builds, it is probably not placed well for the underfolder. Not to sound too stupid but the Krink's are not US made, correct? If that's the case, that changes parts count as I had it on paper. I guess I will be back to the US "P" grip.

[MattyWalcott]

Originally posted by Fathom
Seein' how these are the ones Arsenal USA is currently using on their builds, it is probably not placed well for the underfolder. Not to sound too stupid but the Krink's are not US made, correct? If that's the case, that changes parts count as I had it onKr paper. I guess I will be back to the US "P" grip. Krinks receivers are Made in USA

[Gundwulf]

Originally posted by MattyWalcott
Krinks receivers are Made in USA Yes, they are. Welcome to the forums, Matty! :cool:

[Fathom]

Took to plunge this morning and ordered my kits. I am in no hurry to build so I can wait for Arsenal USA to offer their receivers. Thanks for the help in making my decision.

Edited to correct my butterfingered typing.:rolleyes:

[Twisted]

Anyone eles have a firing pin that looked like a corrorded automotive battery terminal? I had to use an emory cloth to get most of it off. Gun scrubber took the rest.

[tomelroy]

the first thing I Did was to strip down the entire Kit(s) and clean/sand blast every thing. I only sand/bead blasted the parts that had corrosion/rust on them.. Gas tuves..bolts..and some bolt carriers. I had one that the extractor was forzen in place. The extractor spring looked like a solid block of rust when I finally got it apart. Everyting is clean and ready for storage....Again..pay the extra for select...garanteed unfired...I had no problems with the select kit i got..

[DrugRunR]

Originally posted by OnyxSonoma
. If you do find a reciever you can use with the fixed buttstock, ive been getting build quotes at $325+

Welll, I got good news for everyone.

Got info from 2 smiths Both have a 8 week backlog till they get to your gun wait.

Inrange
Rivet everything barrel and headspace
$125 any quanity

Investment Grade Firearms
Rivet Everthing, barrel and headspace
$110 min of 3 rifles
$50 more to mill for underfolder stock :-)

This is basically the stuff most people can't do.
You will get back a barreled action, not a complete rifle.
You would still need to do something with your threaded muzzle, install your FCG, and install your stock set.

CHARLES

[Silver Dollar]

I received my PMKMS kit from Global last night.
What a huge difference in the fit and finish compared to my SAR1.
I ordered the select kit, all numbers match including the selector lever.
I read in another thread that a lot of people were receiving the incorrect selector levers with their kits.

The lower handguard is especially nice wood.

[DrugRunR]

Originally posted by VodkaMan28
Not sure where the Ohio Ord. serial numbers are stamped but I heard on teh krink it is forward so it gives you room to drill out teh two large holes needed for the underfolding stock.

Accroding to the picture, the OOW serial # is stamped on the bottom of the receiver near the trigger area.
Now, something that is not really a problem, is the OOW emblem is in the way... but it is LEGAL for you to destroy it.

http://www.ohioordnanceworks.com/parts/akm/akm-rec.jpg

[Twisted]

I thought you couldn't destroy that because it had the place of manufacture, and caliber and such there....

[Gundwulf]

Originally posted by Twisted
I thought you couldn't destroy that because it had the place of manufacture, and caliber and such there.... Jayson at Investment Grade Firearms told me you could destroy the logo, just not the serial number.