MR Jimmy Question

[AKDUDE47]

I see you have used Bulgarian take off stock sets for 12.95. I guess they are painted and banged up of course.. but with elbow grease can they look ok? Like in other words are they cracked or missing chunks or stuff like that?
Thanks
AKDUDE

[Jimmy @ Armory USA]

The takeoff stocks are from "cut-a-way" training rifles used in classrooms in Bulgaria to train soldiers before they turn them loose with real rifles.

The wood stocks are painted black, and are generally in decent shape. They will have names scratched into them sometimes, but the wood is extremely hard, and the scratches don't go too deep. The grips will be wood or plastic, with the odds in favor of black plastic. We have some interesting variations of the black plastic grips in the assortment, some we have never seen.

The buttstocks have the buttplates, some with toolkit doors and some without.

These sets can be made nice with enough work. But be prepared for some. They look pretty rough as you will get them.

The plastic sets are also interesting. They have solid plastic black butts, which are the same pattern as the solid brown butts we have several years ago, and K-Var has now. The handguards are the brown bakelite ones, made with mixed resins so they look like burled wood. They are also painted black. The pistol grips are the same assortment as above.

The butts will be the biggest challenge. The plastic is solid, so you have material to work with. I sanded one of these down, and if you can live with a matte-type finish, you can get them looking presentable. I guess you could polish them down after removing the ugly. I sandblasted the one I sanded, and it looked decent.

The handguards should clean up pretty easily.

One thing for sure, these are authentic vintage milled sets, so if you are building a real "replica" rifle, these would be useful toys.

[Diesel]

Jimmy. Can you get the complete training rifles? Being 'cut away' they can't be fired and are not guns per se. I would certainly be interested in one. 88888888

[ED4x]

Good question Diesel and goo idea. I would love to have one in my weapon collection.

[Jimmy @ Armory USA]

They can't be imported--we already tried. They were once machine guns, and are still machine guns. Logic does not have to apply here.

We are considering rebuilding some of them on stamped receivers, properly cut away. What do you guys think about this? And what do you think a fair price would be?


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Jimmy @ Arsenal USA

[AKDUDE47]

Thanks for the quick answer Jimmy. I just ordered two sets to see what im getting into. If I like them im sure Ill be ordering 10 more or so.
AKDUDE

[Diesel]

Probably not worth the bother...the curio value of a real cut away would not be there...unless you used damaged or worthless 'krink' receivers and could do it cheap enough. Remember the old US training devices?...they were not even made of metal most of the time.

(If the real cutaways were never 'fired' and were simply taken off the line and cut up to make training devices...would this not indicate that they were never "machind guns" but rather a training device that went through the manufacturing process...like my Junker bb gun which was once an AK74?)

I know, burdensome question...no answer is expected unless the idea is workable.

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[Jimmy @ Armory USA]

We applied to bring them in, and the application was refused on the above doctrine. They started out as normal AKs, and were cut after assembly.

[ED4x]

I was wondering if you can't bring them in because they were cut after they were assambled then why can Inter-ordnance bring in their SMG's and MG's that are cut? I am sure they were cut after they were assembled.

How about removing firing pin welding hole in bolt weld end of barrel and gas port? Think they'll let them in then?

How about say you're bringing them in as parts kits like Inter-ordnance is selling theirs as.

Just some thoughts.

[Jimmy @ Armory USA]

We could bring them in with the receiver removed, or by cutting the receiver into uselessness. But not intact in any usable form.

[ED4x]

Ok thanks. I wasn't sure how IO's came in with cut recievers.