Who owns a Vepr??

[HDR]

Vepr II in 5.56

A fun rifle to shoot..

[Mysterious]

Originally posted by HDR
Vepr II in 5.56

A fun rifle to shoot..


You rang?

A .308 and a .223. GORGEOUS pieces of work! I'm considering the .308 M-14 mag conversion, but want to do a bit more research first. Sure glad to see this forum pop up.

[second amendment]

Are these guns worth the $?

[recon]

Well people? :D

[UGACherokee]

:wiggle:

http://alltel.net/~rj_butler/images/VEPRK40RDR.JPG

No have-y brake.
No need-y brake.

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Worth it in my opinion. Well-built, well-finished, furniture is ergonomically superior (to us tall folks), accurate, barrel takes a long time to get hot, etc., etc. :up:

(Come to think of it, my very first posts here were on the Vepr)

[recon]

I don't have one yet. I did see one at a show a little while back. The rifle is barrel heavy! To me thats kind of strange when most of your weight is up front?

[HDR]

Mine works as advertised.. Accurate and reliable..

It does not like Barnaul ammo..


second amendment
A Vepr is a typical rifle, if you like them yes, if not no.. I like mine. Trigger feeling is nice. Its accurate..

I put a rob arms' rail mount on it and a 3x9 Bushnell. Its one fun rifle.

[sfc ret]

from reading all the reviews of them, it is one very nice firearm, in terms of reliability, workmanship, accuracy.....but somehow the rifle does not appeal to me, the neutered AK looks just doesn't do it for me.

[Shine]

Vepr II 5.56
Posted about getting rid of it awhile back but a few on here told me to keep it. Glad I did.

[The Gooch]

Between my father and I

2 VEPR II 223
1 VEPR I .308
Super VEPR .308
M96 Exp w/carbine kit

Keep the forum alive

Gooch

[firthcpt]

Have a Vepr II in 7.62x39 w/brake. Got it about 2 years ago and like it. Have gotten a POS 4x24 for it but not had the chance to try it with the scope. Even though I think the rifle is great, I doubt that I will buy another one given the fact that Robinson Arms can't keep a regular supply of them in stock and they don't appear to have much interest in the customers. The site they had here at AK-47 Net was great for while and was a big reason that I bought the Vepr. It appears that they tossed the towel in because of some heat they had gotten over quality of the product. Makes me wonder. Never the less the Vepr I bought was well made and I have no plans of getting rid of it. I also have a NHM-91 that has been spruced up and my next will be a SAR-1. I would like another russian AK and perhaps another company will market one that looks like an orginal AK. :) Later

[mack8384]

.308 Vepr II. 6X42 PSO scope, RSA FCG.

http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data/500/317vepr-med.jpg

Mack M.

[recon]

Hey The Gooch how do you like your M96?

[The Body Bagger]

I've got the Vepr K 7.62 x 39 with Muzzle brake. Went with the K because of the obviously needless need for a longer barrel for the 7.62 x 39 round. Got the muzzle brake not because of fear of recoil but because I ordered mine without and got one with it anyways. No big deal, to me it looks kinda silly when it chambered for the 7.62 short, but I guess it looks kinda kewl. Put about 300 rds through it and just a Kobra for it a couple weeks ago and will put another 3-400 rds tomarrow as it company shoot day! Couple guys from work gonna get together and take the toys out to the range for the first this year for many of them.

Is it worth the money I think so. While not being a large guy I stand 6'1" 190lbs and it fits perfectly. I do not mind the weight so much, if you can't carry a 9lb rifle in battle then you have something something something........can't remember the rest, an almost famous quote by a US military man. Love the accuracy and the fit and finish. very good product, too bad I had to wait almost half a year to get it.

[HDR]

Originally posted by sfc ret
but somehow the rifle does not appeal to me, the neutered AK looks just doesn't do it for me.


You mean the way the receiver and butt stock assemble??

http://ikashmir.org/Pakistan/w-svd.JPG
another neutered AK... ;)

[jAK 47]

Love my VEPR K. It is probably the best AK made. The only thing I would change is the weight. I've thought about selling it for a Krebs 103K because it is 2 pounds lighter but... Next I want a .308 and it may also be a VEPR.


jAK-47
VEPR K (http://www.gunsnet.net/album/showphoto.php?photo=5444&papass=&sort=1&thecat=500)

[Ian]

I have such a blast with my Vepr II .223, that I went ahead and purchased a Vepr K .223 that was listed in this forum. My II is very accurate, even with SA surplus ammo. The RobArms weaver scope mount is the best. Unlike others in this forum, I've had a very positive experience with Robinson Armaments.

Thanks for creating this new forum!

Ian

[Hamburger]

i'll hopefully get my vepr this week from the german importer. it's a long barrelled 7.62x39.
i was told that the longer barrel tightens groups from 50mm to 30mm (1.2 inch) on 100 meters (with match ammo). it's the same prove so i went for the long one.

the vepr is available in germany only with the russian thumbhole stock, i'll have to buy the robarm stock separately.

there's nothing worse than waiting for an ordered gun! :cool:

[madhater1]

Vepr II in 5.56. and it eat's anything
:eek:

[RJ Shooter]

jAK 47, I wonder how many people know what your avitar is? :D

[Hamburger]

Originally posted by RJ Shooter
jAK 47, I wonder how many people know what your avitar is? :D

it's a vepr... :cool:

[gibsonite]

VEPR II ( /w PSO ) and VEPRK ( Kobra ) both 7.62x39.

Either are considerably more accurate than my other AKs, and just as reliable.

Only reason I didn't opt for .223 and .308 is that I have other rifles chambered for those cartridges and wanted more variety.

[HDR]

RJ
Its a Vepr, an ugly Russian Hog...

Not as neat as my chrome and steel Hog, but neat..

[HPK]

I have a VEPR K in 7.62 with muzzle brake and a Krebs peep sight. I've had it about 15 months and love it. It eats anything I feed it. It's my favorite shooter. I let a couple of friends try it last week and they both need one now. I bought a Kobra and a Blackhawk cheekrest for it but haven't used them yet. Next trip to the range I'll zero the Kobra.

[NHGunNut]

I have had the Vepr K for about a year now. I bought the one with the break cause I liked its looks. After luging it around and having a friend break ,my kobra (closed it in the tailgait of his suv. I used the open sights for awhile. Recently I bought a Krebs M3A so. I have put a night vision scope on the Vepr. Is it worth the money? To me yes but I am 6'1" and 275 so while I would like it to be lighter the wieght is not truly an issue

[Ian]

Hollow Point Kid - What Blackhawk cheekrest are you referring to? I didn't think there were any available for the standard Vepr stock.

Thanks,
Ian

[HPK]

Originally posted by Ian
Hollow Point Kid - What Blackhawk cheekrest are you referring to? I didn't think there were any available for the standard Vepr stock.

Thanks,
Ian
It's a "universal" cheekrest. I didn't want to make any permanent modifications to the stock. Someone here posted a link to it a while ago along with a "password" that gave a cheaper price. I tried to find it but I can't view threads using a "Search"; I get "This person has been banned..." for all posts in all threads.
But here's a link to the item:
http://www.blackhawkindustries.com/product_detail.asp?product_id=1983&d=
As stated, I haven't fired the rifle with the Kobra yet but I did test fit both and the Blackhawk rest is just about right for the height of the Kobra. The laces hold it tight enough that there doesn't seem to be any fore/aft or side/side movement. I'll try to post a pic of it on my VEPR later when I get home.

Edit - Now that I can search again, here's the thread I was referring to. Tango 1Zero supplied the User Name and Password. It's good for a 20% discount so the price winds up just over $15.00:
http://www.gunsnet.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=85888&highlight=Blackhawk

[jAK 47]

It is a big ugly VEPR Boar!! One of my dreams is to buy a VEPR .308 and go to Russia and mount a REAL VEPR PIG on my wall. Every time I get the money, I buy another gun or more ammo. Since I'll never have all the guns I want it looks like I'll never make the trip.

I would definitely trust a VEPR with my life.:eek:

jAK-47

[Ian]

Hollow Point Kid - Thanks for the Blackhawk cheekpad info. It's good to hear that the lace up version works; it doesn't look like the strap versions would, though. Thanks for the discount info as well! I'm now looking through the entire catalog for any goodies that I could justify getting...

Ian

[Mysterious]

Are the VEPRs worth the $$$$?

I have to say "absolutely!" The actions are smooth as glass, the triggers are sheer joy compared to anything in the standard AK class and the accuracy is readily apparent by comparison.

I do wish that RobArms was a bit "cheaper" on their scope mounts, just as I wish they had higher capacity magazines for the .308 without having to undergo the M-14 mag conversion. It also says something when they can legally advertise that their stamped recievers are 50% stronger than the standard AK MILLED recievers. That's impressive!

[Skibane]

The 7.62 x 39 VEPR-K is my From My Cold Hands rifle – it will be the very last firearm I'd ever consider giving up, regardless of how big my gun collection eventually becomes. If you can only afford one Kalishnikov, this is the one to have.

Just bought a -03M Kobra for mine, which makes it even better (if that's possible). Whatever the red dot touches, the bullet does, too.

[jAK 47]

After "sleeping" on it and seeing all the posts about the VEPR K I think I'll wait until I can afford to buy a second AK. The weight of the VEPR still bothers me but I'll get a good tactical sling - any advice? CQB Solutions looks pretty good at: http://cqbsolutions.com/carryoptions.htm

When I talked to Krebs (and they are excellent people), I was really psyched about the Krinkov in 7.62 at only 5.5 pounds. But then I thought about the recoil/muzzle flip and decided that the Krinkov was really meant to be a 5.45 gun. Then I considered the 103, which many people consider to be the equal of the VEPR. At 2 pounds lighter, it really seemed a good alternative. But, IMHO the VEPR is a better gun than a Saiga and I really can't see selling the VEPR and adding an additional $300+ to buy the Krebs 103.

So, for the near future I'll just get a good sling and wait until I can afford to buy a second AK. And before I do that, I need a .308 in DSA or maybe the VEPR again($400+ less). People talk a lot about the CETME .308 at under $350 but I heard it can be a crap-shoot on quality and I'm NOT handy at fixin things.

I carry a Glock26 but for hot weather I carry a KelTec .32 and they just came out with the .380 version - so that's first priority on my list of new purchases. Then I have to get the Kobra for the VEPR K. And then I will get my second AK; maybe even the Krinkov in 5.45 (more ammo around the house). How many different ammo calibers does eveyone stock? That would make a good thread - I'll do it! :D

Thanks to everyone for the help. What a great place to get info and share experiences!

jAK-47

[Ian]

I asked CQB Solutions about which sling would fit a Vepr. Here is their response:

CQB Solutions <jorchard@cqbsolutions.com> wrote:

Ian,
Unfortunately, none of our slings will attach to the VEPR K.
Regards,
Jeff Orchard

General Manager
CQB Solutions
jorchard@cqbsolutions.com
www.cqbsolutions.com
Phone: 559-635-1172
Fax: 559-553-8835
Any other slings out there for the Veprs? I wouldn't mind new RobArms furniture that has side sling mounts. Maybe they could make it while waiting for the new Veprs from Russia.

Ian

[jAK 47]

"Unfortunately, none of our slings will attach to the VEPR K."
That sucks!

BTW, I spend as much time as possible in Maine (just past Portsmouth) but I work in Boston. As soon as I hit the NH line I breathe a sigh of relief (especially if I have any toys with me). What's the law on hi-caps for your AK in Boston :( I do love that bumper sticker, "Ted Kennedy's car kills more people than my gun!" What a joke these gun laws are...

Now back to the drawing board on a good tactical sling for my VEPR K. Damn, I may have to buy a sling-friendly AK just so I can look cool when I'm hunting small deer (or walking in Boston):D

jAK-47

[American Patriot 1776]

Where do you shoot? I am a member at the best shooting range in Maine. Perhaps a meeting and afternoon at the range?

[jAK 47]

I live just outside of Portsmouth. Right now I'm looking for a club. I used to belong to Southern Maine Fish and Game in Eliot but maybe the Piscatqua in Greenland NH this year.

In the past I used to spend a lot of time over at Pioneer Club near Concord. They have great IDPA with Mas Ayoob.

Are you anywhere near the NH border?

jAK-47

[KOBRA22]

I just got a VeprII 7.62 yesterday from a local sale with a 20" Barrel. The sling on it is from Wally World. The scope is a Leapers 3X9-40mm w/ illuminated cross. I sure do have to say the rifle sure is purty. Can't wait til my next trip to the range.

http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data/500/20882VeprII-med.JPG

[HDR]

The 20" Vepr is a little heavy..

Next time you shoot one, let the muzzle weight work for you.. Recoil lifts, weight drops, find the rhythm and dance..

Takes a little practice, but its worth it.

[GaryR]

I have a Vepr K in 7.62x39 with MB. Fit and finish is great, rivals my Legend and in my opinion looks better. Call me crazy(you're crazy!)but I love to take this gun out and just gawk at it much more than I even like shooting it! But I do love that too.

GET ONE. Worth the wait.

Gary

[HDR]

Agreed, my Poly is nib and the Vepr's form, fit and function is just as good..


As a Vepr owner, perhaps one of the best moments is when people that really know AKs take a look with the dust cover off..

[UGACherokee]

Originally posted by HDR
As a Vepr owner, perhaps one of the best moments is when people that really know AKs take a look with the dust cover off..

NK; you get one of these: :eek:

Every element is a step-up from your standard AK. Even the gas port is finished. :up:

[FLASH-HIDR]

I like the weight forward of the VEPR. It gives me better control under sustained fire conditions.:) If you think the VEPR is bad for weight forward, try shooting an IZZY HB FAL (minus bipod) in a standing position!

[Hozer]

Ya, you think a VEPR is muzzle heavy try shootin' my Serbu BFG-50 from the shoulder. (hehe, I actually do.) I personally like the muzzle heavy feel also. It reminds me of my 20 gauge double I use for grouse hunting. Let the debate rage on. VEPR=AK by HK.

[Asmodeous]

Accurate, reliable, and I like the looks. It's one of the half dozen AKs I own.

http://www.supercharger.net/private/veprII2.jpg

[Vis]

WTF, am I the only one with 5.45 x 39 ???????????????:(
http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data/500/20380P5060031-med.JPG

[onepercent]

Originally posted by Vis
WTF, am I the only one with 5.45 x 39 ???????????????:(


Well . . .

My VEPR K has "5.45x39" printed on the receiver. But alas, it's really a misprinted 7.62x39 so I guess you are alone! :D

[Vis]

Originally posted by onepercent
Well . . .

My VEPR K has "5.45x39" printed on the receiver. But alas, it's really a misprinted 7.62x39 so I guess you are alone! :D No kidding, another example of legendary Robarm quality control:rolleyes: I don't like to think of myself as alone, I think I'm "unique"......:D

[FLASH-HIDR]

You are not alone.... I have a VEPR K in 5.45x39 that I bought for cheep from a Montana State Patrolman (he thought the handguard was too "heavy", so he attempted to customize it, butchered it in the process, and lost the handguard attatchment screw)..... I ordered a new handguard from R.A., that was the easy part, them handguard attatchment screws, they dont' grow on trees ya know..... at least not in the U.S.... (speacial thread configuration)....:eek:

[Vis]

Originally posted by FLASH-HIDR
them handguard attatchment screws, they dont' grow on trees ya know..... at least not in the U.S.... (speacial thread configuration)....:eek:

M5X0.5??? I don't think it's that special, of course the screw serves as a sling atachment so it might be hard to find. :cool:

[mseanmc]

Mysterious,

How is the VEPR .308 treating you?

I have the VEPR II in .223, and have been getting an itch to get a true battle rifle in .308.

I am trying to decide between the M1A from Springfield, the FAL from DSA and the VEPR II.

Could you please shed some light on this topic for me?

Thanks!

[Ian]

How do you like the Versa-pod? What model is it? Do you like the skid feet?

I'm trying to chose between the Harris and Versa-pod bipods for my Vepr II .223. Both bipods are currently on sale at Impact Guns, though the Versa-pod is less expensive.

Thanks,
Ian

[Hamburger]

@ ian:
why don't you just open a new topic for a comparison of versapod and harris?
i am sure you will get more replies than when you post it here... :)

[Ian]

I did, but it didn't get very far in the Vepr forum...
http://www.gunsnet.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=118982

Maybe I'll get a few more responses to my new thread in the General Weapons Discussion forum...
http://www.gunsnet.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=120848

Sorry for hijacking this thread,
Ian

[Hamburger]

no prob...
try the accessories forum :)

[Mysterious]

Originally posted by mseanmc
Mysterious,

How is the VEPR .308 treating you?

I have the VEPR II in .223, and have been getting an itch to get a true battle rifle in .308.

I am trying to decide between the M1A from Springfield, the FAL from DSA and the VEPR II.

Could you please shed some light on this topic for me?

Thanks!

Sorry bud, I wasn't ignoring you but I've been away for weeks and just gettin' back into the forums.

Frankly, I haven't had much time to play with the .308 because of a pinched nerve in my back.

There's no doubt that the VEPRs are pure CLASS from virtually every POV. The only shortcoming I see with the .308 is the limited magazine capacity (10 round).

Now the Kerbs Custom folks will do a magazine conversion to the M-14 20 rounders for less than $150 and I've never heard anyone say a discouraging word about Kebs... period. They are simply first rate! Here's where it gets sticky: Krebs rightfully wants a couple of surplus mags sent along for proper fitting. The key word is SURPLUS. Apparently, the 30 round aftermarket mags are not even a legitimate consideration here.

As an old combat vet, I'm picky. I want EVERY DAMN ADVANTAGE I can get! (That includes extra firepower!) I'm also a firm believer in the G-3 and have some custom 30 round mags for it that work perfectly.

If you really want a battle rifle - the M1A is primo, but you'll PAY for it! The G-3 will rate right up there also. I've never been a big FAL fan (they don't "fit" me quite right) - but they are generally fine weapons NTL.

If you want a battle rifle simply for collecting and/or target practice, the VEPR should be fine. BUT...if you even remotely think that one day you might actually have to USE it for it's real BR "purpose", then I'd move on to the three previously mentioned rifles.

Good luck!

[bsllvn]

I've got the VEPR K in 7.62x39

The best AK in my opinion :up:


Skibane - I agree with you:
"The 7.62 x 39 VEPR-K is my From My Cold Hands rifle – it will be the very last firearm I'd ever consider giving up, regardless of how big my gun collection eventually becomes. If you can only afford one Kalishnikov, this is the one to have."

:D

[Skyliner]

I just picked up a new VEPR K in 7.62 today. Very excited, looking forward to trying it on the range soon. This may end up replacing my DSA SA-58 as the "fun rifle."

Just wondering, has it been difficult to get VEPR's lately? I walked into a store last week, they had two VEPR's in 7.62 and one in .223 on the shelf. Although they're out of 7.62's now, I bought one and my boss from work ran out and bought the other when he heard they had it in stock.

Thanks for all the info on this forum, I certainly have found it useful!

[HDR]

Skyliner,
It seems its become more difficult to ship from Russia to here, but not sure on which end.

Plus we have a greatly enhanced Port security now. I talked to a truck driver friday. He delivers here from a port in Va, he said that everything is X-rayed etc. Anything that catches their eye, is set aside to be unpacked and inspected..

[UGACherokee]

Originally posted by Mysterious
If you want a battle rifle simply for collecting and/or target practice, the VEPR should be fine. BUT...if you even remotely think that one day you might actually have to USE it for it's real BR "purpose", then I'd move on to the three previously mentioned rifles.

Or the AR-10. :D

[Aay Kay Mike]

Hopefully, I'll be getting a call from Brian at Kreb's any day now, with him telling me that my KTR-03 in 7.62 w/skeletonized stock has been sent out to my local FFL. If I get it next week, it's gonna be one helluva Fourth of July.:D

[NineseveN]

I've got a VEPR-K in 7.62 that i just love. Got the brake, not sure why. If I recall (got it about a year ago) my dealer told me they had some with brakes all ready to ship and I jumped on it.

I don't mind having the brake at all. Just e-mailed Krebs for a Price Check on having the KTR-03 sight system installed on my VEPR.

To me, that would ice the cake. Reliable, accurate and good sights...what more could you want?

[HDR]

NineseveN
Welcome to the Forums..

http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data/3107/2320Vep_II-med.JPG

Rob ARms mount and an old Bushnell turret. I

I enjoy my Vepr also..

Mysterious
If you want a battle rifle simply for collecting and/or target practice, the VEPR should be fine. BUT...if you even remotely think that one day you might actually have to USE it for it's real BR "purpose", then I'd move on to the three previously mentioned rifles.

Gotta ask, whys dat?

[NineseveN]

Thanks for the welcome HDR. I've been around for about a year-and-a-half but I went offline for about 2 months (moving) and not only forgot my username, but also forgot which e-mail address I used to register before (I host about 16 websites and have e-mail accounts through all of them).

I tried some of the names that I would have most likely used but I gave up after about seven of them. Funny thing is, I use NineseveN for just about every site and for some reason I didn't here orignally. Oh well, such is life.

If I can get the krebs sighting package for a reasonable price I really think this will be the ultimate SHTF rifle (though i can't wait to see if my .243 FAL comes to fruition as well).

[Mysterious]

Originally posted by HDR
NineseveN
Welcome to the Forums..

http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data/3107/2320Vep_II-med.JPG

Rob ARms mount and an old Bushnell turret. I

I enjoy my Vepr also..



Gotta ask, whys dat?


Ah, sorry I missed you, bud! I just overlooked this one. As I said in another thread and some others have pointed out also - price, capacity and availability of .308 VEPR mags are a real DEAL/BALL BREAKER.

For the price of three VEPR 10 rounders I can buy 3 or 4 custom made *30* rounders for my G-3. The OTHER big reason is that I have many friends and associates that are past and present SF combat vets. Most of them prefer the G-3 as an MBR if available. Form. Fit. Function. Go figure. FALs are in second place.

The funny thing IS: My VEPR has "an EMBLEM" that's been added to the stock that tends to make me believe that it MAY have seen limited combat SOMEWHERE since 98. Can't get more specific than that about the emblem since it's pretty unique and would be the major identifying characteristic on sight if it was ever stolen.

[KOBRA22]

Heres Mine..:cool:




http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data/500/20882VEPRII_7_62-med.JPG

http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data/500/20882VeprII_Mid.JPG

[inspireart]

Reliable, accurate, fun, easy to clean. Looks cool! Krebs Galil conversion.
http://members.aol.com/inspireart/beaut.jpg

[jonnyswift]

I just ordered a Veper in 5.45x39 . Plan to make an RPK-74 out of it . Just need a plum stock set from Kvar and I'm set . Can't wait to shoot it . :D