Intratec Question.......

[dickie]

I know that this may be a bit off topic but I have question regarding the newest installment of the Tec-9, the AB-10. All you guys seem pretty knowledgeable about your firarms so I thought I would ask here. I have heard (and read here) that the actual Tec-9 can be modified rather easily to Full Auto. Does anyone out there know how easily an AB-10 can be converted? Has anyone seen a site out there that talks of an AB-10 conversion? Of course, this is just for informational purposes and my curiosity only. I won't be converting one because I don't currently own any of the Intratec stuff.

Thanks, Dickie

[pa kettle]

The open bolt version of the tec 9 the KG models were the ones that were easy to convert. Thus like the open bolt MAC's production was stopped. Hope that helps some.

[Repairoman]

Dickie,
The AB-10 is a TEC-9 minus the shroud and threaded barrel. I have the TEC-9 and a friend has the AB-10, put side to side that is the only difference (the AB has a shorter barrel length) There is a full auto conversion book out at all of the gunshows that has the informational blueprints to make the open bolt out of 0-1 tool steel. With that said, why bother? My Tec-9 jams like all the other semi auto's- full auto would just be more frustrating!! It averages one or two jam per 30 rd mag. I do have a mag that doesn't jam at all, but it's one out of 4 and I don't like to reload one mag only. The best thing you should do is custom mount a weaver rail on the rear sight , cut off the front sight and install a PRO-POINT 3 on the gun mine will now cut a 2" tree in half at 75'. With the factory sights I was lucky to hit the tree once in 30 rounds.

http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=657579&a=6960527&p=23031263&Sequence=0

[This message has been edited by Repairman (edited 07-28-2000).]

[dickie]

Repairman, Could you please clue me in to the red-dot scope mount you fashioned for the tec-9? Maybe e-mail me or post instructions here. Also, could the red-dot scope be mounted on the ab-10 in the same manner? I think I'm going to pick-up an ab-10. A local FFL has them for the lowest price I had ever seen.

Thanks, Dickie


[QUOTE]Originally posted by Repairman:
[b]Dickie,
The AB-10 is a TEC-9 minus the shroud and threaded barrel. I have the TEC-9 and a friend has the AB-10, put side to side that is the only difference (the AB has a shorter barrel length) There is a full auto conversion book out at all of the gunshows that has the informational blueprints to make the open bolt out of 0-1 tool steel. With that said, why bother? My Tec-9 jams like all the other semi auto's- full auto would just be more frustrating!! It averages one or two jam per 30 rd mag. I do have a mag that doesn't jam at all, but it's one out of 4 and I don't like to reload one mag only. The best thing you should do is custom mount a weaver rail on the rear sight , cut off the front sight and install a PRO-POINT 3 on the gun mine will now cut a 2" tree in half at 75'. With the factory sights I was lucky to hit the tree once in 30 rounds.

[This message has been edited by dickie (edited 07-29-2000).]

[dickie]

Repairman,

Also, what model tec-9 has the threaded short barrel but no shroud over the barrel. It essentially looks like an AB-10 with a threaded barrel. Are these older or newer than the model you have? Any ideas?

Thanks, Dickie

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Repairman:
[B]Dickie,
The AB-10 is a TEC-9 minus the shroud and threaded barrel. I have the TEC-9 and a friend has the AB-10, put side to side that is the only difference (the AB has a shorter barrel length) There is a full auto conversion book out at all of the gunshows that has the informational blueprints to make the open bolt out of 0-1 tool steel. With that said, why bother? My Tec-9 jams like all the other semi auto's- full auto would just be more frustrating!! It averages one or two jam per 30 rd mag. I do have a mag that doesn't jam at all, but it's one out of 4 and I don't like to reload one mag only. The best thing you should do is custom mount a weaver rail on the rear sight , cut off the front sight and install a PRO-POINT 3 on the gun mine will now cut a 2" tree in half at 75'. With the factory sights I was lucky to hit the tree once in 30 rounds.

[Repairoman]

Dickie,
Mine is of the first guns that Intratec made after the name change from Interdynamics. They made the KG-9 that was easily converted to full auto by cutting off the top of the disconector. The photo I'm enclosing is of the DC-9's (Exact identical guns to the TEC-9- name change was to avoid being on the California ban list). The guns are in painted, nickel finish, and stainless steel.
I used a $5.00 part from a sporting goods store for a shotgun. It's a weaver rail by a company called Blount Inc. I drilled and tapped the holes in the rear sight to match those of the rail. I then epoxied the rail to the top of the gun and put loc-tite on the screws. Next step was to take a file and file the protruding screws so they didn't interfere with the bolt action. I forget the model # of the rail, but it was one of the raised ones for seeing thru it to the front sight.. Almost forgot, I did put the rail on a bridgeport and enlarge and deepen the inside dimensions for lightening purposes along with cutting it off to the proper length for the PRO-POINT. It sounds harder than it is. The effort really pays off as the gun will be accurate at 50+ yds ( I used a laser bore sighter to track in the pro-point)

http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=657579&a=6960527&p=25266987&Sequence=0

[dickie]

Repairman, Just curious... where did that pic of all the intratec stuff come from? Also, do you know any sites out there that have alot of info about the Intratec stuff???

Thanks, Jason

[Repairoman]

Dickie,
www.sksparts.com (http://www.sksparts.com) sells TEC-9 parts, Intratec also sells a select few parts to the public. The pic came from a website. Do a search on AltaVista like so: "Intratec TEC-9" including the quotation marks. You'll get hours of reading about the evil lil' bastard and the havoc it's caused. BTW last time I looked it was #9 on the FBI's top 20 guns used in violent crimes.
About the info on Intratec stuff, you will find the common preception is they are cheap P.O.S. marketed to the violent headbangin' gang crowd. The same can be said of MAC 10/11's. They seem to be the drive-by bullet hose of choice. I'd like to see the complete list to know what the top 10 are, piece by piece.

[dickie]

Repairman,

Well, I just went and purchased an AB-10. I couldn't afford a pre-ban one right now. I'll pick up the AB-10 thursday(damn the waiting period). I'll let you know what I think.

Thanks for your help, Jason

[Repairoman]

I hope you didn't pay too much. The current issue of gunlist ( www.gunlist.net (http://www.gunlist.net) ) has an ad selling AB-10's for $99 w/10 rd mag and $149 w/ 30 rd mag. I've seen them at Medina and Akron Oh. gunshows for $159 w/30 rd mags.

[dickie]

Repairman,

No, I didn't pay too much at all. I got it new for about $150 with both a 10 rounder and 32 rounder. Pretty cheap for a new range toy. I see people on www.gunbroker.com (http://www.gunbroker.com) and www.auctionarms.com (http://www.auctionarms.com) trying to sell them for anywhere between $150 and $250 with only 1 mag..... some of them get bids. I'm very anxious to get it and put a box or two through it. Let you know how it goes.

Dickie