I am making a Tokarev barrel

[Clark]

I got some Parker Hale .308 Mauser barrels to play with.
I am cutting one in the lathe to be a Tokarev pistol barrel.
I think the way the commies made them was on the lathe and then welded on the lug that is pinned to the link.

One problem I will have is the PH bore is .2985" and no stock pilot will fit. Standard is .300".
I will have to pay extra for a custom 7.62x25mm Tokarev reamer. I have tried making chambers lots of times with drills, boring bars, straight fluted reamers, and home made rreamers. It is just allot easier and better if I pay the money. The stocked reamers are ~$50, and custom will be at least $20 more.

Another problem is if I have a long bull barrel, there is no way to get the bushing on the barrel. I am going to have to make a bushingless tapered barrel.

This, if it works, will turn a Tokarev into a bull barreled rifle. I will make a scope mount from the barrel to come back over the slide.

I made a Turk Mauser into a a scoped, bull barrel 45acp, and some asked, "What on earth for?".
I do this stuff because it interests me.


http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=365203

[weevil]

It does sound interesting, and it certainly sounds like you're having fun. Thats what this hobby is all about, doing something that you enjoy in your spare time.

Why the Tok, I know they're inexpensive, but it seems like a standard 1911, would provide a better platform, for custom gun work? The Tok is one of the smaller variants, it seems to me like it would be easier to work with something a bit larger.

Of course there are a lot of custom 1911s, custom Toks are definitely a rare bird.

It sounds like you're having a good time, don't let me keep you from it. :D

[Clark]

Today I am working on the scope mount for the long bull barreled Tokarev. The scope mount will be mounted to the barrel and sweep back over the slide.

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=379341

[JA]

Any progress????

[Clark]

I have the lump welded on and the link is pinned and working.

I cut the extractor relief.

I am kind of stuck looking for a reamer:

1) I can rent a 30 Mauser remaer for $25, but the pilot is .300" and the Parker Hale bore is .2985.

2) GS will sell me a 7.62x25mm Tokarev reamer with .298" floating pilot installed for $175.


So far I have $34 invested in the barrel and $35 invested in the welding and link mounting. Sometimes it is difficult to get accuracy AND be cheap.

[JA]

http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/store/ProductDetail.aspx?p=5052#sku
30 Mauser reamer part # 184-051-301=$90

[Clark]

I am seeing 184-051-301 as 30 Luger, which is a shorter cartridge.

If you look at Clymers search data base feature:
http://www.clymertool.com/design/index.html

You will see that BOTH the 30 Mauser and 30 Luger reamers have .299" solid pilots.

[Clark]

I am still searching for a reamer.http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=399367

[Clark]

http://www.1911forum.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=465695

[droog]

Are you gonna put a stock on it?

[Clark]

Maybe a stock later, things have moved slowly.

I chambered it today.
I did not want to spend the money on a custom Tokarev reamer with floating pilot, so I got a Clymer 30 Mauser reamer with fixed .300" pilot.

To get the pilot to fit, I pounded a .3000-" pin gage down the breech far enough as I want the pilot to go. It was much harder getting out, but its is all ok now. A little hard on the cleaning rod.

I don't have a headspace gage, so I used some different brands of Tokarev ammo.

I didn't use the lathe, just put the barrel in a vice and clamped on to the reamer with vice grips. I put sinky Surfered cutting oil on the reamer and went in and took a little material out by hand. Then I pulled it out with hammer strikes on the vice grips [watch the fingers]. Then I washed the reamer in gas and oil with a tooth brush. I pushed a patch down the bore. I repeated that process for hours.

I have the extractor cut cut, but I need to make the feed ramp and finish the scope mount.

[Clark]

Here is a picture of the extractor cut.

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=784771

[FalconUruguay]

Looks Like An Interesting Project....

Are You Planning On Making Any threaded Tok Barrels In Either 9mm Or 7.62x25 In the Future ???

It Would Be Nice To See A Tok With A Fake "Silencer" On It...

Or Some How,Taking the Barel Bushing And Having A Compensator Attached To It...That Would Be Cool:up:

[Clark]

I have a scope mount on it.

I need to cut the feed ramp and go to the range.

[Clark]

I have a 2x7x32 Leupold Vari-II rifle scope on it.
I was using S&B 7.62x25mm factory ammo.
The chamber is reamed with a 30 Mauser reamer, but the differences are minute, and have to do with a shoulder angle on a shoulder that is barely visible.
I used no recoil spring.
I fed single shot without a magazine.

At 50 yards I shot two 5 shot groups; 2.1" and 2.5"
At 100 yards I shot one 5 shot group: 4.2"

Much better groups would be possible:
without wind
with a better rest
with a shooter who is a better shot with a pistol
with better ammo.
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=1117627

[ruskiegunlover]

A close look at the picture begs the question.....How are the spent cases being ejected? Looks like they would pop up, and fall back into the chamber....

[Clark]

There is not enough slide velocity to auto eject, with such a heavy barrel.

I have been pulling back the slide and they pop out to the right.