Maadi Misr

[RCBARLOW]

I have been told that the Maadi Misr only takes the 10 round single stacked mags.
GunsAmerica.com has a color picture and add
selling these for $375. The add states that these have the pistol grip and take hi-cap mags. Which is correct?

[Dave Speight]

The Misr-10 is 100% imported and can only use the single stack clips (10 round max.).
The Misr-90 meets the 10 part rule and is considered made in the US, thus it can use the high capacity mags.

I am thinking about using one of the US kits to bring my Misr-10 up to meeting the 10 part rule so I can use the high cap. mags.
The Misr-10 may have a poor finish, but it works well.

[KYGunz]

Does the MISR-10 have to be modified to take high cap mags? What's involved in that and is it legal being that you have us parts installed?

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Never "too many" guns, always "not enough", KYGunz

[RCBARLOW]

Thanks Dave.
I guess that is what had me confused. There
are actually two versions of the Maadi Misr.
I am buying the Maadi Misr 90 that takes the
hi-cap mags. Hope to have it next Tuesday or
Wednesday. Although I have a lot of different guns, this will be my first AK.

[gopher29]

There are actually 4 post ban versions of the maadi still on the market:

MISR-90 -thumbhole stock and takes Hi-Caps

MISR-10 -pistol grip uses single stack mags

MISR/US -pistol grip and takes all HI-Caps

-and there are also some MISR-10s that have the thumbhole stock and only take the single stack low-caps

-gopher
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sometimes we must come full circle to find the truth

[Dave Speight]

I think that if fit it with a US kit (10 part rule), it might be legal to mill out where the clip goes (there may ba a rail in the receiver that needs milling too?) so a double stack clip will fit(the doubles are almost as wide as the receiver).
I have not check on the legality yet.
I am not sure if I should ask one of the supplier of the kits or the people (OK, I use the term loosely) at BATF.
It all boils down to an executive order inflicted on us by Comrad Klinton in 1996.

[Dave Speight]

The only problem I have had with mine is that they did not sight it in and it shot low (easy to adjust). It did not shoot left and it shoots smoothly.
Oh ya, I did have problems with one of my clips in that after the first shot, the gun would not fire. Trimming the lead flanges on the clip fixed that.

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[sKiTjacKsOn]

Anyone have any input on the Maadi MISR's from JG Sales?? They offer the double stack for $298.00

[Keychain]

RC,

The MISR 10 is 100% imported and uses single stack mags. The MISR 90 meets the 10 part rule so that high cap mags will fit, but you will need to change two more parts for the imported high caps to be legal(ie, Stock, Pistol grip, gas piston, etc). If you were to install 6 US parts in a MISR 10, all that you would have to do is open the magazine well opening in the bottom of the gun since the trunion is the same. The Romak 991 is the same and parts would have to be changed to be legally modified, but the lip on the trunion of the Romak would have to be modified slightly since the hook for the mag catch is slightly differant.

[Tom N]

Wesley at Soupbowl is gearing up to do the convertion. He needs to get a mill set up so he doesn't have to dremel each one by hand. Email him at soupbowl@hotmail.com

Love my MISR, just need to do more plinkin' and less knuckle-bustin'. http://www.ak-47.net/akcgi/wink.gif

[MADDIMAN]

Has anyone converted a Misr 10 to take high capacity magazines yet ? Just wondering. I have one and after some sight work It has a turned out to be a dependable weapon. It is my first AK and I would rather convert the one I have than buy a Misr 90. Thanks for any info.

[Mr. Spock]

I am in the same boat. Just bought a MISR-10 that I was told takes the high cap mags, but now after looking in Shotgun News, apparently it only takes 10 round single stacks, and the 90 is the high capper. Now, if I am understanding correctly, you have to modify it to take the high cappers, is this true?? Does anyone know how to do that, or are their kits that can be bought, and if so, where. Thanks in advance for all replies.

[Dave Speight]

I am looking at a US parts kit from SoupBowl (see under links, AK-47).
Then you have to get the receiver milled out to take the wider clips.
I will hopefully get them to do this after I get the parts kit installed.
You have to meet the 10 part rule before you can go to the hi-cap mags.
I could probably sell my Misr-10 and buy a Misr-90 with the difference, but my Misr-10 shoot so well, why take a chance?

[Mr. Spock]

Wish I had the money for that, but doesn't look like that will happen, and time is running out. I am a gunsmithing newbie to the extreme, but am I wrong in that the rifle was built around the original Egyptian receiver design?? Then like Keychain said it is just a matter of widening the magazine well to fit the mags into the receiver, and then subsituting a few parts for legality?? Or would it not feed right if done that way?? Looking for an option that will allow for the larger mags that could be done locally. BTW, if not possible, are the single stack 10 rounders easy to find??

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[Dave Speight]

I have heard it is that easy to modify the receiver as well.
The 10 rounders are not very easy to find and cost as much as a 30 rounder.

[Tom N]

Mr. Spock, What do you mean time is running out?

[Mr. Spock]

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etc., but I believe that we are going to see some chaotic and scary changes beginning in a couple of weeks. First, I think Y2k is more serious than the butt covering corporate and govt bureaucrats tell us. I say this not only because I have a background in econ, and worked in the financial markets, but also because my father worked in industrial services, and have many talks with him about the innerworkings of factories, of which most now are computer controlled. I have many friends in high places working on this computer problem. They are telling me that it ain't fixed, it can't be fixed, what is fixed is only patched, and little if any has been fully tested. Furthermore, we live in an extremely interdependent style of an economy, both at a micro as well as at a macro level. Basically that means that if something fails, it affects or stops everything around it, and those around them, etc., etc., Enough failures, or a failure at a bottleneck, and the whole process comes crashing down. Add to that the fact that we are on debt built financial house of cards, and things look economically very shaky in my opinon. It would not take much of a shock to bust it all apart.

And as if that weren't enough, you have elitest, corrupt, power hungry one worlders absolutely salivating at using y2k/terrorism eliminate the Constitution (eg: Kofi Annan, PBS interview in Oct or Nov, saying the UN will go where it wants when it wants, and then two week later the US is named as a theater of operations...the first time since the Civil War), and finally bring the US under their feudalistic plans for the nations of the world (ref: Strobe Talbots public statements about creating a one world govt, Paul Begala: 'Stroke of a pen, law of the land, kinda cool,' essentially dismissing constitutional power of lawmaking to Congress, and the separation of powers).

There are further indications that Clinton is pushing for an all out gun grab next year, and if chaos does hit in the next few weeks, the ability to purchase weapons and ammo to defend the homestead may no longer be available. That's why I want to get bought what I need in short order.

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[Mr. Spock]

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[Mr. Spock]

BTW, haven't added my opinions on the MISR-10. Notwithstanding it was sold under false pretenses IMO, I love it. Paid up toward the high end ($389), but that is what you get for a local gun dealer in a small town. I don't mind supporting a local guy (though maybe not this guy again), they need the money, and it can pay off well in the long run if you cultivate a relationship with them.

However, it was hand picked, and darn good quality for a Maadi. Bolt is a little rough, but I am used to a Ruger 10/22. LOVE the way it shoots: big, loud, raw, powerful, lots of punch with the Russian ammo, and pretty darn accurate too. No jams, no problems, less kick than I expected. My parents have country acreage surrounded by a valley, and the whole thing just rumbled as I was firing it off. Reminds me of the live trap drums sets in old jazz music. Already in love with it after one day of use, and I think it will make a great self defense gun if I can do a legal mag conversion on it.



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[Badger]

I just received a maadi misr 90 from Classic Arms. Bad news--the trigger retaining pin was backed out of place and the trigger would not reset after dry firing--even after I put the pin back in place. The pin would keep backing out. Also, the stock was cracked where the sling swivel is attached. This gun was probably assembled inside a dark pyramid. I sent the gun back to Classic Arms and was told that I had to pay the Shipping and Handling--is that right? I thought Classic Arms should have paid, it is a defective product that they sold.

[patsue]

That is not good news for me...
I have a MISR 90 on the way from them (Classic Arms), should get it at the end of this week. Hope I have better luck then that! I would be interested in the conversation that you had with them when you told them it was defective. Besides the crack in the buttstock, how was the reciever finish?

Patsue

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[Sturmgewehr]

My maadi misr hi-cap looked pretty good. the wood is nice the finish wasn't bad considering its black spray paint. Later I will probably refinish the metal with brownells baking laquer. At tax time Im thinking about buying another.My dealer stocks them at $299 and they are definitely worth that price.

[BarryPa]

RC- I have a US/EGYPT MISR. Very reliable and fun to shoot. I've even learned to like it's hideous finish. For the price it's the best bullet hose there is, IMO. Be sure to get E. German hi-caps!!!!!

[ardvark]

I actually purchased a MISR maadi m90 from Classic arms also, (which came relatively quickly)and I have experienced no problems at all. In fact, this past week end i shot 150 rds through it flawlessly w/out even a jam. Straight out of the box i am able to get on paper at 150 yds. My finish and stock both look great, and overall I am very pleased that I spent the mere $289 to purchase such a gun.

Good Luck

[patsue]

Hey Ardvark,
Was the finish a spray paint finish on the metal? How canted off to the side was the front site if at all?
Patsue

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[Balming!]

FYI, I think Federal Arms has the MISR 10 rifles for $179. You can't beat that for a "starter" gun.

Balming