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about this and the value.
Thanks.
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whos2kno
10-07-2003, 09:22 PM
it's worth nothing
BTW
send it to:
whos2kno
123 wishful thinking lane
crocked whos,ga 69696
zouavexx
10-07-2003, 09:41 PM
Aside from AKWARRIOR, you might want to contact awp101 on the value of German militaria.
Originally posted by whos2kno
it's worth nothing
BTW
send it to:
whos2kno
123 wishful thinking lane
crocked whos,ga 69696
Dang man. What do you not want of mine? ;) j/k
Remember so far next year you'll get a list. Shhhhh lol
whos2kno
10-07-2003, 09:45 PM
Originally posted by ED4
Dang man. What do you not want of mine? ;) j/k
Remember so far next year you'll get a list. Shhhhh lol
SWEET!!!
AKWARRIOR
10-07-2003, 11:47 PM
Oh my thats a nice specimen!!!!
Its a Luftschutzwarndienst (Air Protection Police) helmet.
Value is about $130.00-$150.00.Too me the paint and decal is totally authentic and the paint looks a good 99% intact thats great for a helmet of this age.The chinstrap looks questionable as most were leather and that one looks like plastic or somthing but could still very well be genuine.The liner looks to be missing the cord that ran around through the eyelets.
Heres what Ill tell you,
The Air Protection Police "Luftschutzpolizei-LSP" was an organization activated on 1 June 1942 whose purpose it was to organize and control air defense related activities throughout Germany. The Air Defense Police came about as a result of heavy Allied bombing attacks that eventually overwhelmed its predecessor organization,the Security and Assistance Service (Sicherheits und Hilfdienst-SHD).
The Luftschutzpolizei fell within the full authority of the German Order Police(Ordnungspolizei),but by most accounts it is best regarded as Germany’s central air defense organization.Air defense conscripts were trained by the local chief of the Ordnungspolizie and fell under his overall jurisdiction.
Members of the Luftschutzpolizei worked closely with other organizations such as the Technical Emergency Corps(Technische Nothilfe-Teno),the Fire Protection Police(Feuerschutzpolizei),and the Air Protection Warning Service(Luftschutzwarndienst-LSW).
Units were authorized to control the civilian population during air attacks,assist and provide medical and evacuation services with the German Red Cross(Deutsches Rote Kreuz),organize repair services for buildings,utilities,and transportation centers, decontaminate areas and conduct gas detection,care for wounded animals and livestock,assist with fire-fighting duties, and to provide rescue and ambulance services to victims of Allied bombing.
Essentially, the Air Protection Police organization was Germany’s answer to a comprehensive need for a single air defense organization. Due to the nature of the work involved, members were required to have better head protection than what was generally provided by the standard Luftschutz gladiator helmets. Unit members typically wore dark blue M1935, M1940,and M1942 “beaded” combat helmets with standard police or Luftschutz insignia.
The increased need for control during air raid attacks was one of the many factors which lead to the transfer of the organization to the Order Police(Ordnungspolizei-ORPO)umbrella.Of interesting note is that the transfer of authority was in part largely due to Heinrich Himmler's long standing goal of gaining total control over all of Germany's infrastructure through the administration of any group or organization that could be deemed as vital to national security.
Hope this helps.
Thanks bud. So you like it?
The guy I got it from brought it in from Germany back in the mid 70's. He also has a firemashal or something like that helmet. I may see about acquiring it also.
AKWARRIOR
10-08-2003, 12:22 AM
Originally posted by ED4
Thanks bud. So you like it?
The guy I got it from brought it in from Germany back in the mid 70's. He also has a firemashal or something like that helmet. I may see about acquiring it also.
Yes its got character.:D
I knew what it was right off.Upon a little more closer inspection and a bit of research through some of my books youll be glad to know I find its the Final pattern of this helmet.The strap is in fact genuine as well as the rest of the helmet.Final pattern fetch anywhere from $175-$240.:D
Elduce
10-08-2003, 06:58 PM
Wow, AK, great information! and nice helmet. I have a couple of belt buckles, one is the god be with us, and the other is brass? and has the skull and cross bones in the center. I picked it up in France at a flea market in 1986. the vendor had ALL sorts of stuff, Nazi, concentration camp, you name it. I wish that I had some more $$ at the time to have bought more!
Thanks for the info AKWARRIOR. And thanks for the compliment Elduce. :)
evilotto666
10-10-2003, 03:56 AM
Dude you gotta do something about that signature of yours. waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay toooooooooo long :D
Originally posted by evilotto666
Dude you gotta do something about that signature of yours. waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay toooooooooo long :D
LMAO thanks. I like it so I'll leave it. :D
AKWARRIOR
10-14-2003, 04:44 PM
Originally posted by Elduce
Wow, AK, great information! and nice helmet. I have a couple of belt buckles, one is the god be with us, and the other is brass? and has the skull and cross bones in the center. I picked it up in France at a flea market in 1986. the vendor had ALL sorts of stuff, Nazi, concentration camp, you name it. I wish that I had some more $$ at the time to have bought more!
Sorry been without a phone all last week due to the lines being messed up.Elduce Id like to see pics I should be able to ID em for ya.
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