EOTechs in the War On Terror...

[RJ Shooter]

I'm gonna post pics I find of my favorite optic, on this thread. ;)

http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data//500/13617McHugh_SpecialForces_Baghdad.jpg

[RJ Shooter]

http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/Special_Forces_and_Task_Force_20/aak.jpg

[Epinephrine]

I like that one that is painted desert tan. :D

[RJ Shooter]

It was hard to see at first, no lie! ;)

[Epinephrine]

Yeah, it really blends in with his BDU's. You outta camo out your M4. That would look tight YO!:D

[RJ Shooter]

http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/2nd_Infantry_Division-Stryker_Platoon/aac.sized.jpg

[RJ Shooter]

Spc. Christopher Wilson, left, and Sgt. Randall Davis, a sniper team for Bravo Company, 5th Battalion, 3rd Brigade, 20th Infantry Regiment, 2nd Infantry Division, hold sniper rifles used during operations in and around Samarra. Leaders maintain that the Stryker brigade’s abundance of snipers is ideal for limiting collateral damage and civilian casualties during guerilla-style fighting
http://www.armytimes.com/content/editorial/editart/122203front17.jpg

Sniper Sgt. Randall Davis peers down the holographic scope of the M-14 sniper rifle he used during operations in and around Samarra. Since mid-December, Davis has been credited with eight confirmed kills and two “probables,” a count no soldier in the brigade has matched.
http://www.armytimes.com/content/editorial/editart/122203front18.jpg

[Epinephrine]

Pictures of Air Force CSAR Pararescue Medics.

Sorry, Im not that good with brigade, bettalion, etc stuff. I just know the different forces.

Got any links to a place where I can learn the difference between all the squad, platoon, brigade, bettalion stuff?


http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data//500/26893STT3.jpg?7795

http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data//500/26893STT4.jpg

[blobman]

eotech on an m14 isnt that counterprodutive

[RJ Shooter]

Originally posted by blobman33
eotech on an m14 isnt that counterprodutive You tell me...Since mid-December, Davis has been credited with eight confirmed kills and two “probables,” a count no soldier in the brigade has matched.

[Medic203]

RJ, I know the AA models have 4-5 times the battery life of the N models, but the AA models are a bit longer. Does this extra length become a factor with eye relief when you go to mount them? Also, are there any issues with EOTech us for those of us that wear glasses? I would like to put an EOTech on my M4 Flat top. Thanks for the photos and any recomendations you might have.

[RJ Shooter]

There are zero eye relief issues with most red-dots. You could theoretically mount it at the front sight, and it would still work as designed.

Me personally, I like it being right at my eye, this allows me to have a wider field of view, without seeing much of the sight's housing. More of a looking through, rather than looking at, approach...

I like the N version simply because it's shorter. If I were deployed in the military, I'd probably want the extended battery life of the 552 AA models.

;)

[Medic203]

Thanks RJ. I prefer the more compact look of the shorter "N" model. Battery life is a moot point as I wouldn't use it that much (70 hrs).
I agree with your military comment on longer battery life.
Do you have a particular vendor for these that you would recommend?
Thanks again for your response.

[Epinephrine]

That sniper is using it wrong, EOTech is supposed to be used with two eyes open. :D

I wear glassed and mount my EOTech or Aimpoint as close to my ARMS BUIS as I can w/o blocking the buttons on the EOTech or the Lens Covers on the Aimpoint, which is about 2" from my glasses.

[RJ Shooter]

Originally posted by Epinephrine
That sniper is using it wrong, EOTech is supposed to be used with two eyes open. :DOnly when being used as a CQB optic!

The 1MOA center dot is good for precision work. Long range precision work is better with one eye closed.

For example, with ACOGs, the optic is magnified. But it also works like a dot optic with both eyes open. This is called the Bindon Aiming Concept. With both eyes open, you basically see the target (with reticle superimposed) at 1X, close the weak-eye and focus through the optic, and you see the target at 4X.

Now this doesn't exactly work in the same manner with a non-magnified dot optic (Aimpoint, EOTech, Reflex), but closing one eye still is the preference for precisions shots...

;)

[Medic203]

"Mail Call" on the History channel had a segment on the Coast Guard using their helicopters to intercept drug trafficer's cigarette boats. They used what I believe was an M 249 to fire warning shots across the bow and an EOTech sighted 50 cal bolt gun to take out the boats engines if the bad guys failed to stop.

[RJ Shooter]

EOTech is making specialty reticles for their optics now. They even have them for Less Than Lethal guns and hand-held Grenade Launchers!

I've never seen one mounted on a Heavy Machine Gun. It would be interesting to see...

[blobman]

JEEZ RJ DO YOU WORK FOR EOTECH OR WHAT SORRY FOR CAP LOCKS sorry again

[RJ Shooter]

I would if they paid me! ;)

[blobman]

im sold iv been lookin at em for a year now . and im gonna make the leap its goin on a bushy 20 in a3 soonnto be flattop i just gotta sell a few goodies first

[JE3146]

he sold me too :rolleyes: .. next project will have the 511 on it.... damn you RJ... lol

[Epinephrine]

I own both an EOTech and an Aimpoint and Im sorry to say RJ, but I have grown very fond of the Aimpoint. Dont mean to turn on your EOTech legion, but the Aimpoint seems to work better for me. Dont get me wrong, I'm not going to sell my EOTech and will probably buy another, but with my A4, the Aimpoint works somewhat better. The EOTech will go on my M4 once I get another $2000 to turn it into a SOPMOD. Plus, it just looks more bad ass with an ARMS #22M68 mount and riser. DROOL!:eek:

[RJ Shooter]

Epi, Do a comparison and let me know once you engage multiple targets (try 2 shots on three targets as fast as you can engage) from a low-ready position, at about 50 yards.

Then tell me how you group your precision shots at 100+ yards.

It's all about personal preference, and the above two facts force me to prefer the EOTech on a carbine. You may be different, and more power to you for that fact. You are also using a 20" which may change your needs... ;)

Personally, I don't like the looks of an EOTech on a 20".

[Epinephrine]

So far I have noticed that the EOTech is a bit faster out to 50 yards, but as far as long range shots the ML2 seems to be more presice. The window is bigger and allows for better periferial(SP) vision, but the ML2 seems to be less prone to any sort of paralax. I dont know if Im using it wrong, but the EOTech dot seems to dance around on the target slightly more when I move around.

I am going to have to test some more to see if its pilot error.

I dont know what it is, but it seems like the ML2 is easier to use on my big A4. The EOTech dosent like that extra 4" of barrel or something. And your right, the EOTech looks funky on a 20 inch!

[RJ Shooter]

There is no parallax on an EOTech. But there is more room for the dot to travel. But that's user error if it is moving around so much. ;) Eye/head position is the only thing that can change the reticle/dot's location within the optic.

I'm not sure 4MOA can be more precise than 1MOA, but I'll take your word for it. :)

I too think an Aimpoint looks better on a 20", but would rather have the 2x version or spend an extra $500 on an ACOG.

[Epinephrine]

For some reason the 65 MOA ring on the EOTech distracts me when I am shooting precision shots. I loose the dot sometimes. Its prolly cuz of my bad eye sight screwing things up.

[JE3146]

I could see that happening.. kinda why I WANT an aimpoint.. but can prolly only afford an Eotech.. and I've heard a bunch of near-sited people complain about aimpoints..... but I have a couple of friends getting aimpoints here soon.. so.. if it works for me.. I might just get the aimpoint.. I like the looks of em more.. but. the eotech would be friendlier on the wallet :D

[RJ Shooter]

Originally posted by Epinephrine
For some reason the 65 MOA ring on the EOTech distracts me when I am shooting precision shots. I loose the dot sometimes. Its prolly cuz of my bad eye sight screwing things up. Are you using both eyes open for precision shots?

[Epinephrine]

No. My eyes are just all fusged up. I have 20/30 vision and am near sighted. When I get past 50 meters with my EOTech my eye dosent want to focus on the 1MOA dot.

[thedaledoe]

Im really trying to resist ordering my eotech already.. but these threads really arent helping. :rolleyes:

[Epinephrine]

Stop reading them then! :D