Build Question / Dealer BS

[mrkimball]

I finally decided that I would like to build an AR15, especially now that the AWB is gone. So, today I called the local gun shop to see what kind of price a lower reciever would cost. Well, the dealer informed me that he was not ordering lowers anymore, due to rumors that he heard regarding some current action by the ATF. According to the dealer, the ATF is going after people who have assembled kits into rifles with the main complaint that tax had not been paid on these assembled rifles?? Now from my understanding, the Lower is the "rifle", and assembly (in accordance with parts guidlines) is permissible by the individual... Is this guy wrong, or is something going on out there??? He did state that he would be glad to sell me a new evil option equipped Bushmaster in M4 configuration for $850... Is this guy full of BS??

[JE3146]

uhh.. ya.. find a new dealer... that'd be my suggestion... if I smell bullshit.. i take my business elseware..

[thedaledoe]

Yea thats total BS.. He just wants to make more money on a complete rifle.. Make sure you tell him you are taking your business elsewhere too.

[scalawag]

man thats all that is, is BS!. with all capitol letters. including the exclamation point. At least you got the good sense of posting what you were told. a lot of people would have taken an "dealers" word for fact. I have always wondered how those rumors got started. Its either one of two things, he is really a dumb ass, or he is a smart ass using your own ignorance against you. when anyone uses your own ignorance against you, they have some alterior motive working. bar none.

[gunnut1]

Here it is, right off of the ATF web site. Nothing about paying the excise tax.
Besides, if it was true, they have no way of knowing if you bought a complete gun or just a receiver. All they have to give NICS is wheather itis a long gun or hand gun. Receviers for rifles are consider a long gun. Sounds like the gun show rumor mill has this guy buffaloed!


(A6) Does the GCA control the sale of firearms parts? [Back]


No, except that frames or receivers of firearms are "firearms" as defined in the law and subject to the same controls as complete firearms. Silencer parts are also firearms under the GCA, as well as under the National Firearms Act (NFA). Certain machinegun parts, such as conversion parts or kits, are also subject to the NFA.


The GCA generally prohibits the transfer and possession of large capacity ammunition feeding devices manufactured after September 13, 1994. "Large capacity ammunition feeding devices" are those that can accept more than 10 rounds of ammunition. [18 U. S. C. 921( a)( 3), (24), and (31), 922( w), 27 CFR 178.11 and 178.40a]



(A7) Does the GCA prohibit anyone from making a handgun, shotgun or rifle? [Back]


With certain exceptions a firearm may be made by a nonlicensee provided it is not for sale and the maker is not prohibited from possessing firearms.
However, a person is prohibited from making a semiautomatic assault weapon or assembling a nonsporting semiautomatic rifle or nonsporting shotgun from
imported parts. In addition, the making of an NFA firearm requires a tax payment and approval by ATF. An application to make a machinegun will not be
approved unless documentation is submitted showing that the firearm is being made for a federal or state agency. [18 U. S. C. 922( o), (r), (v), and 923, 27 CFR 178.39, 178.40, 178.41 and 179.105]