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Mac_Muz
10-01-2004, 06:40 PM
I hope this room takes off soon...

I think I will be ordering very soon http://www.dpmsinc.com/223.html 15th pic down, which is a flat top..

For lack of info I intend to purchase a Colt clone Nam era scope to mount on the re-movable handle. Iron sights and me are not the best combo anymore. I still can see them sort of, but not like I once did....

I am not sure why I might ever want a flash light mounted on my gun, as that seems a dead give away for a crook to pin point me with, but so why do folks do that?

The gun as I intend to order it will have "Glacier Guards" and I am none to sure what if anything can be mounted to them..

If I want to mount stuff, why do I want to mount stuff and what type forward grips is best suited to this? Mac

thedaledoe
10-02-2004, 05:30 AM
People like flashlights so they can see i guess. It really depends on the situation.. they can be a "shoot me" light for a "haha, i found you" light.. :)

As far as mounting stuff Id recommend the YHM-9670 rail system. THey are the same thing as the Knights RAS but a third the price. I dont have mine yet but all the reviews are good from what Ive heard and seen. Glacier guards, to my knowledge, are visually the same as regular handguards but they cool better.. You wont be able to mount much on them and if you do it prolly wont be very stable. But I dunno cuz ive only seen pictures of them. Hope that helps a little.

Mac_Muz
10-02-2004, 08:32 AM
I still don't understand the lodgic behind a weapons mounted flash light.. I am pretty sure you are joking about the "shoot me" light for a "haha, i found you" light, as that would be a really bad idea either way. Maybe it works for SWAT, but that idea won't work for me.

Are the rails you mentioned mounted on a fore arm, or are they part of the fore arm, as molded in.

Some options I have seen are led lamps in red or green to walk by with lower light, and of course overly high priced flash lights... I know these have a tab on and off button sometimes located on the fore arm, and are very bright, but I don't think I need much less want any of those.

I don't make a living clearing buildings, and I don't need any of that to clear my own building. Old barns built in circa 1820 have creaky floors.. You guess which boards creak, whilst rememberin that I have lived here for some time. Not just you but a in general you.. That outta get the idea across.

SO it's back to what toys are there forearm mounted and what good are they for 1 guy with one wife, with a grown son livin elsewhere? Mac

thedaledoe
10-02-2004, 07:05 PM
The handguard rail system I was talking about is a 2 piece system jsut like standard handguards but more stable and they are metal. They are made out of aircraft grade aluminum and are hard coat anodized per mil spec if I remember right.. Ill post a link here for ya.

https://secure.valinet.com/~yankeeh/cgi-bin/web_store/web_store.cgi?page=forearms.html&&cart_id=927142_1921

they are the second product listed there.. I found another place that has them for 115 which is the cheapest I can find. If you arent gonna use a vertical foregrip you will prolly need the rail covers too because i hear its easy to cut your hands on the metal. I think any milspec rail covers will work on them so you can use whatever brand you want.

RJ Shooter
10-02-2004, 11:22 PM
Flashlights are used by every police department and every American Special Operations Force. Reason? Because they work if used correctly.

It's not like the light is on constantly. All of the 'tactical' illumintators used have a momentary switch as well as a constant on switch. Unless you're on a very "overt" search, the constant on would never be used.

But here are the positive reasons for a momentary burst from a flashlight:

When in an indoor, or night-time CQB situation, a millisecond flash from your light can 'embed' a memory image in your head when moving in the dark. You do not lose too much of your personal night vision using this method because the intensity is away from you. But you do get that memory picture embedded, and you can move in an unfamiliar environment more effeciently with this mental picture.
90-125 lumens shined directly at you in daylight will make your eyes want to close. At night, you will not be able to see anything at all - and this vision loss continues minutes after the light is turned off! That bright a light is a weapon in itself, and if used right, will give you a tactical advantage.
When all the target can see is "white," they cannot get an accurate shot off at you, while you, in-turn, can even use your iron sights. They can of course spray & pray in your direction, but they could do that anyway just by using their hearing. The light can give you an advantage.
Anyone that claims that one of these lights will not hamper their shooting back at you, has not had one shined directly at them in the dark.
It's best to remember that these lights are intended to be used in and around buildings, and not in the field...

Hope that helps. ;)
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This is the illuminator I use on my Glock 22 for when something goes bump in the night. I prefer a handgun when searching the home because of the ability to use the other hand for feeling around, moving ojects, opening doors, grabbing kids, etc.

http://us.st3.yimg.com/store1.yimg.com/I/botach_1813_127601579

thedaledoe
10-02-2004, 11:29 PM
Ill prolly have a light mounted on my killin' machine one of these days. I never had anything against tactical lights but there are other thigns that will come first. :)