Site changes poll

So and now you all have it your way, you can now select out of 3 themes:

- The TGN Old Style
- The TGN Portal V1 which is the old style with the Portal.
- The TGN Portal V2 which is the new style with the Portal.

The Arc of Noah isn't build in a day!! ;)


Thank You!! ;)

[alfajim]

With all of the work done to the site do you like all of the changes?
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Text Edited by Theme Designer(add):

Now you all have it your way, so stop whinning, you can now select out of 3 themes:

- The TGN Old Style
- The TGN Portal V1 which is the old style with the Portal.
- The TGN Portal V2 which is the new style with the Portal.

The Arc of Noah isn't build in a day!!

[grady]

I would have voted in favor of the new design if I had cable or something besides dialup. Also if I didnt have to scroll to the right everytime a page loads, maybe transfer everything from the left to the right. Last but not least on the old seeting V1 I cant read any usernames that are not in blue or purple.

Im not trying to be negative I do like the new look, just wish I lived closer to suburbia for loading speed.

[armedsks]

i think the website look great. i did find the the old (white back ground) site was easier to read. It is also takes forever to load. i think it may make people search for other websites that arnt as slow.

[magnum mikie]

Hmmm, I've gotta feeling that admin will reverse the changes very soon.

[AKWARRIOR]

Sure hope so.

[JE3146]

I like it.. but I also am on a bridged T1 99% of the time.... so.... it load times dont really effect me......


I think my only suggestion would be less of a gap between posts on a thread.... makes for more scrolling....

I feel for the guys on dial-up though.... cant even imagine...

[8mm]

I love the new look, but its too big for my screen.

[bsllvn]

I don't want to take anything away from you guys with high speed internet. I'd just like to see a third option for us with dial-up access = the ability to use the original format. Please consider this request Administrators.

[Alans]

If the "new site design" is an improvement, the imprvement escapes my grasp. Also, the site operation seems much slowed.

[The Champ]

I do feel sorry for anyone with a slower connection.

Personally, I've just reverted the forum to the 'old' look, and I'm happy.

[billfrommich]

I liked the old design much better.. This would be great if I had the time to wait and wait and wait. It's far too slow with my dialup connection..

[Alans]

Champ:

How did you do that?

[grady]

Alans, Look over on the left under change themes and choose V1 instead of V2.
HTH

[High Tower]

I would suggest putting all the sidebar info on the home page and not on the other pages where we have to scroll over on every page. Make it faster loading and it is good to go.

[Alans]

Alans, Look over on the left under change themes and choose V1 instead of V2.
HTH

done, thankyou very much.

[survivor99]

I'm on dialup and don't stand a chance. Give me either V1 without the stuff on the left or else the old original version. You guys with cable, T1 and DSL have no idea what we are up against here.

survivor99

[mookie]

I voted to get the original back. I've got cable and new version certainly seems slower. Don't like the colors of V2 but that's not a huge deal. Don't like the side bar on the left. It takes up too much real estate. I don't mind sponsor ads as I know it is necessary to keep the site up. But I don't like the whole "portal" idea.

[mirafiori1]

Who's voting that it rocks???? Every comment here is NOT in favor of the change. In the poll, I don't understand how it can be as close as it looks.

[Fingolfen]

I like the design, but it's only useful when I'm on high speed. About half of the time I'm on dialup, and it's a bit slow.

[alfajim]

Who's voting that it rocks???? Every comment here is NOT in favor of the change. In the poll, I don't understand how it can be as close as it looks.
As with everything people only bitch about the bad stuff and don't say much about the good.

[JE3146]

aint that the truth.. personally I like it.. but I also keep my resolution at 1600x1200 and I have a T1 internet.... my computer doesn't even flinch at the change....

[UGACherokee]

I'm on dialup and don't stand a chance. Give me either V1 without the stuff on the left or else the old original version. You guys with cable, T1 and DSL have no idea what we are up against here.

survivor99

Actually, I have a DSL connection, and I've noticed a significant slowdown in load times. I can't imagine what it must be for dial-up.

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I like the V1/Blue and Slate color scheme a helluva whole lot better myself. It's just classier than the XBox themed V2.

[thedaledoe]

I do notice a little slower respone from the site now. But not much really. I have 3meg cable and a state of the art computer so I can handle it. But I didnt vote because none of those options described my opinion of the change.

[survivor99]

Well, all you guys who sing the praises of it while enjoying the "state of the art components" I am happy for you. I would like to request that someone here just e-mail me (not private message) when the problem is fixed. I can't keep on like this. Good luck to you all.

And for those who think that some of us CAN'T HANDLE THE CHANGE..... change is fine IF you can get there to enjoy it. Best of luck to all.

survivor99

[grady]

Thanks to whoever fixed the usernames on the V1 setting :up: I can see all the names now. I just wish it wouldnt take 30 sec to a minute for pages to load. Dial up sucks!!!

[grady]

:thanks: :thanks: Now my load speed is back to normal!

I applaud the staff for understanding some of us were stuck on dial-up and giving us the option to go back to the old style.
Thanks :up:

[Poseiden]

I'm on DSL and still don't like the new changes.

I would like to know how the hell that crap on the left is an improvement? How the hell does it benefit ANYONE on the forum? I'm kind of pissed that there is a "Stop your whinning" attitude concerning the changes.

"Afraid of change", not hardly. Change is a good thing when it brings benefits. Change is not good when it is merely for the sake of change and brings no functional benefit, definitely not good when it's a detriment.

Thanks for the option of the original settings again.

[wellwell]

So and now you all have it your way, you can now select out of 3 themes:

- The TGN Old Style
- The TGN Portal V1 which is the old style with the Portal.
- The TGN Portal V2 which is the new style with the Portal.

The Arc of Noah isn't build in a day!! ;)

[Poseiden]

Noah was escaping a flood, tell me, what benefit are these new changes?

[dailyparker]

What just happened to the old style? It's gone, not in the pulldown list any more.

[JE3146]

They added a new one... the old old style without the left side.... this will be good for the dial ups :)

[REDSTAR]

survivor99 did you click on the old style drop down on the left or not? I did and it's back to how it used to be. I like the old style alot better this green space age crap hurts my eyes.

[Richard Simmons]

I'm on dialup at home, 42K if I'm lucky with Earthlink Accelerator and the difference in the site speed is noticeable but not nearly the annoyance some are reporting. It takes about 10 seconds, maybe less for a page to open the first time or two but I can easily live with that. Here at work with a T-1 that routes through the corporate office several states away it's a lot slower but hey, I'm supposed to be working anyway. I tried the old styleoption a few minutes ago and my eyes noticed the change immediately. The new look is much, much easier on the eyes. Thanks Gunsnet.

[Noah Zark]

Thank you for the TGN "Old Style" option.

Noah

[flchip]

Bad change. Left menu sucks for small screen resolution, makes scrolling to the right side to read annoying after the first thread.
I can appreciate all the work and effort, but hard to read to the point of squinting to see where to click, and takes for ever to load, and I'm on satellite.
I don't ever post but have been lurking, I guess I wont be doing that anymore either :(

[Scoupe]

Thank you for the TGN "Old Style" option.

Noah

Yes, thank you.

Gotta love the spin on the poll questions. :rolleyes:

[Freedom One]

Just got home from vacation and found this. I think it really, really sucks. It will not change to the old style or the "V1" style on my macintosh machine. And please I do not want to hear "you need a REAL machine" from the peanut gallery. Gunsnet is getting too big for their britches I think! Guys I do not have a 4' wide monitor either! From what I have been able to see, so far there is an overwhelming majority here who do not care for it at all. How the Adm. handles this may make the difference in the size of my next contribution. If I can't use it I'll not pay for it.

[Karl/PAxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]

Couldn't find the choice button for "Sux." Is this what all our money went for on the last big fund drive? Fixing what ain't broke? At least we have the old style back.

[thedaledoe]

Im not gonna bother telling you that you need a new computer. But the fact that you can switch to the old style for those of you who cannot or refuse to join the "communication age" and still use dialup is a great idea. For the rest of us it seems to be fine. I wasnt sure at first but the new look is starting to grow on me

[grady]

Im not gonna bother telling you that you need a new computer. But the fact that you can switch to the old style for those of you who cannot or refuse to join the "communication age" and still use dialup is a great idea. For the rest of us it seems to be fine. I wasnt sure at first but the new look is starting to grow on me

Hey! Im not trying to start something but some of us dont have the option to get on cable and all that other BS. I just spoke w/ Drugrunr today and he did some checking for me and told me I was screwed as far as other options. Well he did say I could do the dish network thing but that it isnt worth it. Im sure there are more people on here than you might think that dont live in suburbia and have all the choices some have...

[Poseiden]

"change your resolution"

"get DSL"

"join the communication age"

"Click the other button"

"stop whining"

I'll repeat it again, what benefit are these new changes? Considering this is a website devoted to words and expression I see little point in making it look like a gaming whorehouse.

For those of us who have been around awhile things were working just fine and dandy. We have had two MAJOR upgrades in as many months and neither have provided the end user with any real benefit. I'm not opposed to change when it's for a purpose, what particular purpose does this serve other than alienating those folks who live in the sticks and can't get any form of broadband. The site only reverted to the old style AFTER everyone pitched a bitch, it wasn't a consideration beforehand.

Yes, I've got DSL and a 21" monitor on 1280x1024 and I'm not effected, so what.

[Tracy]

:jump:

I killed the sidebar! I killed the sidebar!!!!

[thedaledoe]

Hey! Im not trying to start something but some of us dont have the option to get on cable and all that other BS. I just spoke w/ Drugrunr today and he did some checking for me and told me I was screwed as far as other options. Well he did say I could do the dish network thing but that it isnt worth it. Im sure there are more people on here than you might think that dont live in suburbia and have all the choices some have...

I know some people dont have the option of high speed internet. Thats why i said "CANNOT or refuse to join the communication age..." But there are ways to speed up load times for dialup users. My point was to not say that something sucks and is worthless just becuase you dont have the ability to use it properly.

[tommyd]

I am just thankful they let us hicks, that live where you can't get DLS
switch back to the Old Style Format.

[Texxut]

I see no added benifit from the new look. It's slower than molasses in winter and hard on the eyes. WE come to the forum for the posts, not the art work and the pretty colors. OK, we're all impressed, now go back to the old format. Thanks.

[survivor99]

survivor99 did you click on the old style drop down on the left or not? I did and it's back to how it used to be. I like the old style alot better this green space age crap hurts my eyes.



REDTHANK YOU REDSTAR AND ZOUAVE!!!!!

I know I was getting to be a nuisance but I wasn't coming back otherwise.

It has been stated above that it's amazing, all the different spectrum of replies concerning the new forum. Those who have high speed internet are not much affected and few care about the rest of us. Not to mention, we don't always choose to live in the "Dark Ages" as mentioned above. I know.... I work for a major telecommunications company (HAVE for thirty years). To get DSL, I have to live LESS THAN EIGHTEEN THOUSAND FEET from the central office. I live TWENTY FIVE MILES from this office. That is WHY I can't get it. Cable?? Not a chance. The cable is many miles from here, too.

Not because I choose to remain in the dark or however else it was mentioned above. At least now we know who the Democrats are.

At any rate, I'm back on option three. It works just fine and I'm OK again.

survivor99

[bsllvn]

Back to the old style - COOL!! :up:

A Big THANK YOU to those of you that care about us! :D

[Alans]

Rumor has it that there is a way to select "old style" presentation. Where does one go to find the way to select same? Please advise.

As to other aspects, when the site comes up, the color scheme and moving banner ad is really impressive, but the thing takes forever to load. Ditto going from page 1 to page 2, which leaves me wondering as to the following. WHAT PRICE GLORY?

I'm on that old fashioned dial up type of connection, which works well enough with other sites of verious persuasions. I do not see why I should furthur enrich telephone theives by buying DSL or similar "high speed service".

In the event that using www.gunsnet.net becomes to much of a battle, or reaches the point of diminishing returns, I do hope that such is not the case, I suppose that I will have to give it up.

Meantime, if there is a "pull down" or perhaps a "rise up", where one can select what is this third version, the old fashioned way, would someone please let me know where I can find the thing.

Thank you.

[Scoupe]

Rumor has it that there is a way to select "old style" presentation. Where does one go to find the way to select same? Please advise.

As to other aspects, when the site comes up, the color scheme and moving banner ad is really impressive, but the thing takes forever to load. Ditto going from page 1 to page 2, which leaves me wondering as to the following. WHAT PRICE GLORY?

I'm on that old fashioned dial up type of connection, which works well enough with other sites of verious persuasions. I do not see why I should furthur enrich telephone theives by buying DSL or similar "high speed service".

In the event that using www.gunsnet.net becomes to much of a battle, or reaches the point of diminishing returns, I do hope that such is not the case, I suppose that I will have to give it up.

Meantime, if there is a "pull down" or perhaps a "rise up", where one can select what is this third version, the old fashioned way, would someone please let me know where I can find the thing.

Thank you.

Alans, it's there now. In the way bottom left hand corner of the page is a pull down menu with three options. You want "TGN Old Style". :up:

[REDSTAR]

Since we have a way for all to still enjoy the board I am going to close this thread. Some folks will still continue to complain no matter if there is a 'fix' or not and frankly I don't have the time to debate things that have been 'fixed'.

Thank you guys we do listen to you but there are many reasons why we are moving things forward for this website we are trying to stay on the cutting edge. In time the members who enjoy the new way will grow to never want to go back to the old way. I understand we have a more mature crowd here and changes like this are enough to freak you out. It scared the hell out of me too yesterday when I got the green machine, but I am going to give it a chance and see what I like better about it if anything. I am not going to make snap calls on it. People hate change and that is a fact no matter what anyone says. I am one who has hated every new version of gunsnet since 2000 and I have grown to like each one better after time.

y the way one of these days dial up is going to be obsolete. You are talking to a guy who still has a way outdated computer but I at least have cable- it is worth it. You can still use an old crappy computer and sail fast.

Anyway, in the interest of the board I am shutting down the thread. Everyone has a choice now.

[neilwest]

1. Its all the same to me. My dial up seems to hum just as quick with this as the old format.