6.8x43 upper reliability

[chupiw]

I know several companies are offering upper assy in 6.8x43 for the AR-15. Has anyone here dealt with one. I know this is a recent development and ammo is hard to come by but components for reloading are available. I am curious and wonder if this combination is going to be reliable in the AR platform. I have read all the articles and hype and I think this might have some possibilities. But i would like some facts from Real people not a magazine article. I dont want to take a blind chance and spend $500 or more on an upper that has problems. So if anyone here has one or has dealt with one please post your findings. Would appreciate any info.

[Epinephrine]

Well, all that needs to be changed to fire 6.8 is the bolt, barrel, and magazine. It should have perfect reliability. YOu get into relibility issues when you heavily modify the bolt, carrier, mag well, fire control components, and other goodies to use a new cartridge. I have fired a few and nothing has ever happend to them as far as jams, but I also didnt put them thru their pases either.

[thedaledoe]

Rifles in that caliber have been out for a while now. I wonder why ammo production is falling behind. An SPR in that caliber would be sweet. I dont see why there would be any reliability issues for it tho. You can get AR's in tons of differenct calibers and they all seem to function just fine.

[Epinephrine]

There is not shortage persae, because 95% of everything that Remington, Federal, and Winchester pump out is going to the military for R&D. Wait 3 years or until the XM8 is adopted and tehre will be plenty of 6.8

[thedaledoe]

Sounds like a shortage to me. :D Insuficient supply to meet demand, that is the definition of shortage. Dont argue me cuz ive taken plenty of econ.

3 years is far too long to wait. Maybe they just need to tool up and pump out more. :D

[Epinephrine]

Well, its a shortage for us, not for the military. So its like a half ass shortage. 6.8 hasnt really hit it big with anyone but AR owners, and alot of them still are not into it.

[thedaledoe]

Everyone I have heard that was interested in the 6.8 is refraining because of the ammo factor. Somebody is going to have to stick their ass out in the wind first and I can guarentee you it wont be the consumer. So I guess if there is to be a future for that round the manufacturers are going to have to start marketing their ammo to the civilian sector.

[sopmod]

I don't get it?What's the purpose of all of this 6.8 crap? Didn't they blow off that intermediate/intermediate cartridge crap back in the 1970's and here they are doing it again?


If you need more power get a 7.62N and quit screwing around otherwise messing with weirdo calibers is just a logistical nightmare wating to happen.

I only have eyes for one weirdo caliber and that's 300 Whisper..

[thedaledoe]

Its because the 6.8 has the power of a .308 and the recoil of a .223. Its also still much lighter thent he .308 which means soldiers can carry the higher amounts of ammo without vastly increasing their combat load. Also more accurate and can reach out to 1000 meters like the .308. My guess is it will just replace the .308 weapons in the arsenal and not the .223. But i could be wrong.

[sopmod]

Its because the 6.8 has the power of a .308 and the recoil of a .223. Its also still much lighter thent he .308 which means soldiers can carry the higher amounts of ammo without vastly increasing their combat load. Also more accurate and can reach out to 1000 meters like the .308. My guess is it will just replace the .308 weapons in the arsenal and not the .223. But i could be wrong.

That kind of goes against the laws of physics doesn't it? The recoild of a 5.56 and the power of a 308? I have shot an AR10 that was as light as an M4 and I can tell you that it's nowhere near the same animal either on your shoulder or on the target.


All I see is the old 6.5mm LMG round repackaged with a new name and 3mm shorter to be able to chamber in an M16.I for one am having great luck with 77gr 5.56 bullets on deer which by the way are a bit harder to stop than a human.

Do we really need it?

[thedaledoe]

Thats just what they are saying. Im no expert on the subject. Just repeating what they are saying. I dont really care. The military knows what they need far better then us keyboard commandos. Ill let them make their decisions and keep my nose out of it.