View Full Version : Reloading the CZ-52, a couple questions.
Polish Taipan
12-17-2004, 02:04 PM
My Starline Brass, Lee 7.62 X 25 die set, and 90gr Hornady XTP/HP bullets came in. I still need to pick up primers and powder. This will be my into to re/handloading. Do you have any particular recommendations for powder and primers? Load data for it? I've seen some info on the Midway site with a couple people having good luck with 12.5gr of AA9. I can't remember exacty but it yielded a load that gave about 1800 fps. By the way I'm loading these for Javalina hunting this Feb. Any thoughts?
Thanks very much in advance, Taipan
Polish Taipan
12-20-2004, 08:22 PM
Three days and no posts? Don't say I've stumped you all because I know thats not true. I have a couple different lists of loads now. The guys that posted reviews of the bullet on Midway that used 12.5 gr of AA9 pushed the load up more than 20% over what the Hornady load manual states is the max load. Thought that was interesting. Since I will be using this for hunting any thoughts on a velocity I should go with? Faster the better or will a bit slow allow for more expansion?
Noah Zark
12-21-2004, 10:29 AM
Not been ignoring you, PT, and not stumped, either.
Personally, I've not reloaded for the 7.62x25. All of my reloading experience is with IMR and Hercules powders, and I have no experience with AA or V-V powders.
Many folks are reluctant to share loads because of this litiginous society in which we live. But there are excellent reloading boards out there, too.
My recommendations are general:
1) Don't use CCI primers because IME they have some dimesional issues, specifically they historically have been a skosh oversize in my 45ACP, .357 Magnum, and .38 Special cases. They would tend to seat flush or even a few thousandths proud, and I was not comfortable with that. I've never had a problem with Remington or Federal primers doing that.
2) You should be safe using manufacturer-supplied loading data, or data from a known reputable source. The standard rule of thumb is to reduce the published load by 5% to 10% and work up from there. I learned this firsthand with my loads for the Swedish Mauser, originally developed in fired cases taken from Century ammunition that was prevalent in the mid to late 80s. That ammo was made by Norma, and had tiny "NP" marks on the primers. Great brass. Along came the Hansen stuff out of Yugoslavia and it had thicker case walls and a lower case capacity in comparison with the Century/Norma cases. I only cut the load 5%, and damn near needed a pipewrench to open the action. The load was quite stiff, the case expanded a tad into the extractor groove, given away by the "smear" on the case head from the bolt rotation during lift. The primer was flat with hardly any demarcation between the primer and primer pocket edge. Needless to say I pulled the bullets on the other loads and backed off the charge another 5%.
With the XTP/HP bullet I would think that a standard, non-stoked load in the 1400swould do the job. Lots of pigs were killed with 125 gr HPs in 357 Magnums. Your bullet is a tad lighter but if moving fast enough it should do the job if placed in the right spot. I cannot recommend an overcharge, despite what those published reviews of +20% loads say.
Noah
Polish Taipan
12-21-2004, 05:47 PM
Thanks man!! I knew somebody would come through. You mentioned Hercules power, do they make H-110? You don't really have to answer because I'm going to do a seach on it anyway. According to my Hornady book H-110 gives the fastest "safe" load with lots of play room if I want to bring it down to 1400. I can't wait to get this pistol, there's a gun show in Tucson on the 6th, you know I'll be there.
Ok I found the H110, its not Hercules, its Hodgdon. From what I read, they reccomend magnum primers for use with this powder. Winchester WSPM primers look like the ticket. Anyone see anything wrong with this? I wish I already had a chronograph.
Here's my thooughts Starline brass, 90gr Hornady XTP/HP's, Winchester WSPM primers, and starting off with 12 grains of H110. How does that sound for starters?
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