AK Family History: AK-47, AKS-47, AKM, AKMS, AK-74, AKS-74 and AKS-74U

[AvtomatKalashnikova]

The Avtomat Kalashnikov family of assult weapons has evolved from one tank engineer's idea to the most famous (or rather infamous) and mass produced assult weapon world wide. While we in the West were often on the receiving end of this firearm, its historic importance must not be understated. (Information below from US Army Field Manual)

AK-47 Type I
http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data/3022/7747AK-47_Type_I-med.jpg
The original AK was also known as the AK-47. It was a gas-operated, selective-fire weapon. Like all 7.62-mm Kalashnikov assault rifles, it fired the Soviet 7.62 x 39-mm M1943 round and used a standard 30-round curved box magazine. Although they designed it in 1947 and thus referred to it as the AK-47, the Soviets actually adopted the AK in 1949. The AK entered service in 1951. It was the basic individual infantry weapon of the Soviet Army until the introduction of the AKM. The Soviets developed the AKM in 1959. It entered service in 1961. All 7.62-mm Kalashnikov assualt rifles are very dependable weapons. They produce a high volume of fire and are simple to maintain. However, the new 5.45-mm assault rife AK-74 is replacing the 7.62-mm weapons.

AK-47 Type II/III
http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data/3022/7747AK-47_Type_III-med.jpg
The very first AK-47 variant had a stamped receiver but the welding and stamping process at the time did not produce a sufficiently strong receiver for select fire application so a milled receiver was used for AK-47 Type II. The receiver was made from a solid block of steel which gave it excellent strength but came with the price of additional weight. It also had a metal sleeve for the butt stock to go into. This model was replaced by AK-47 Type III which had a similar milled receiver. This was probably done for the ease of mass production.

Chinese PolyTech Legend and the recent Arsenal Inc's SA M7 Classic are approximate versions of AK-47 Type III with milled receivers. Bulgarian SLR and SAM7 series are also built on the Type III milled receivers, but they are hybrids using updated AKM barrel and parts.

AKS-47
http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data/3022/7747AKS-47-med.jpg
The AKS with a folding metal stock was issued primarily to parachutist and armor troops. Except for the differences in the stock and the lack of a tool kit with the AKS, the two version were identical.

AKM (Avotomat Kalashnikov Moderna)
http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data/3022/7747AKM-med.jpg
The improved model, known as the AKM, is easier to produce and operate. It weighs about one kilogram less than the AK. The reduced weight results from using thinner, stamped sheetmetal parts rather than machined, forged steel; laminated wood rather than solid wood in the handguard, forearm, pistol grip, and buttstock; and new lightweight aluminium and plastic magazines. Other improvements include a straighter stock for better control; an improved gas cylinder; a rate-of-fire control alongside the trigger; a rear sight graduated to 1,000 meters rather than 800 meters; and a greatly improved, detachable bayonet. The barrel was also significantly thinner on the AKM model.

Preban Hungarian SA85 are AKM in the most faithful details, so are the preban Egyptian imports. Chinese stamped receiver Poly-Tech and Norinco models are hybrids of AK-47 barrels and AKM stamped receivers. These are called Type 56 assult rifle, not to be confused with Type 56 carbine (SKS).

Most of the modern postbans are of AKM design. It's noteworthy that Global Trades/Arsenal USA's SSR-85B is an AKM with Polish AKM parts on Hungarian SA85M receiver. Its cousin, the SSR-85C is a hybrid between Polish AK-47 parts and the Hungarian stamped receiver. The Romanian SAR, Romak, and WUM are all Romanian AKM, along with Egyptian postban variants.

AKMS
http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data/3022/7747AKMS-med.jpg
The AKM also has a folding-stock version, designated AKMS, intended for use by riflemen in armored infantry combat vechicles such as the BMP. Except for its T-shaped, stamped-metal, folding buttstock, the AKMS is identical to the AKM.

While Norinco AKS resemble AKMS, they are built to Chinese Type 56 specification. The Hungarian SA85 preban underfolders (Kassar imports) are actual copies of AKMS variant.

[AvtomatKalashnikova]

AK-74
http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data/3022/7747AK-74-med.jpg

http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data/3022/7747AK-74_Bulgarian-med.jpg

The AK-74 is basically an AKM rechambered and rebored to fire a 5.45-mm cartridge. Externally, it has the same general appearance as the AKM, with two noticable differences. It has a distinctive, two-port muzzle brake, giving it a slightly greater overall length than the AKM. It also has a smooth plastic magazine which is slightly shorter and is curved to a lesser extent than the grooved metal AKM magazine. It uses the same type of bayonet as the AK-series weapons. The AK-74 fires 5.45 x 39-mm ball, ball-tracer, and incendiary-tracer rounds. The 5.45-mm round of the AK-74 has a considerably higher muzzle velocity than the 7.62-mm round of the AKM; this eliminates the range-limiting drawback of it predecessor. Like the AKM, the AK-74 has a maximum sight setting of 1,000 meters, but the effective range is 500 meters (versus 300 meters for the AKM). The Soviets fielded the AK-74 in 1974, as indicated by the weapon's designation. The folding-stock AKS-74 was first seen with Soviet airborne troops in November 1977.

All AK-74 clones in the US are postbans, except very few Romanians submitted to BATF for import evaluation. There was a Chinese Type 88 in 5.45mm but it never reached the US market before the '89 ban came into effect. The Romanian SAR-2 (and its Romak, WUM cousins) are Romanian AK-74 clones, with a unique AKM style 45 degree gas block. It's rumored that Global Trades/Arsenal USA is building an AK-74 clone (SSR-74). Only time will tell.

AKS-74
http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data/3022/7747AKS-74-med.jpg
There is also a folding stock version, designated AKS-74, which has a Y-shaped tubular stock. The stock has an extremely narrow buttplate, as opposed to the T-shaped, stamped-metal buttstock of the AKMS.

As most AK74 are postban, only custom AK-74 on preban receivers can have folding stocks.

AKS-74U "Krinkov"
http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data/3022/7747AKS-74U-med.jpg
AKS-74U is a modified version of the AK-74 assault rifle with a much shorter barrel (207 millimeters versus 413 millimeters) and a conical flash supressor instead of a muzzle brake. Like the AKS-74, it has a folding metal stock. The overall length of the submachine gun is only 492 millimeters with stock folded or 728 millimeters with extended stock. The rear sight is a flip-type U-notch. The front sight is a cylindrical post. The Soviets designed the AKS-74U as a weapon short enough to be handled easily when the crew enters and exits vechicles. The device at the end of the barrel functions as an expansion chamber to bleed off gases which would otherwise cause a violent recoil. With a loaded weight of 3.106 kilograms, the submachine gun is considerably lighter than the assault rifle AK-74 and has a somewhat higher rate of fire. The AKS-74U was first seen with Soviet airborne troops in early 1984.

There are no known AKS-74U imports, all Krinkovs are custom rifles. Some are Short-Barrel Rifles subject to tax stamp, while others go around that with a fake silencer for barrel extension.

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AK-47 vs AKM

Here's a graphic to show the differences between AK-47 and AKM. Shown here is a close up of the front end of AK-47. The arrows point out the 7 subtle differences between AK-47 and AKM. (Note: slant muzzle brakes are commonly seen on AKM, but it's not unusual to see slant brakes on AK-47 as well.)

http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data/3022/7747AK47vsAKM.jpg

[JamesB]

Excellent post!

I'm currently reading Ezell's Story of the AK-47. On the reason for the switch from type I stamped to type II milled, he mentions the quality control theory but also suggests it could have been for other reasons. He theorizes that in the post WWII Soviet Union there may have been a shortage of equipment and skilled personnel to make stamped parts for all sorts of equipment in addition to small arms. Since the small arms industry already had a bunch of milling machinery sitting around from production of Mosin/Nagants it would have been easier for them to switch to milling than other industries.

He also mentions a type I that the Israelis captured from the Palestinians that, although well used and abused, was not showing any signs of failure of the rivets or welds. The PPSh41 and PPS43 were both made with stamped receivers by the millions so the Soviets had at least some success with stamped receivers before the AK design.

[WildWes]

Avtomat, any chance you'll give us Norinco/Polytech owners a cool new "sticky" like this one?:cool: :D

[AvtomatKalashnikova]

Originally posted by WildWes
Avtomat, any chance you'll give us Norinco/Polytech owners a cool new "sticky" like this one?:cool: :D


LOL...JA's got an excellent website about the Chinese AK and other variants already. Check out his sticky, highly recommended. If you like this sticky, just come on visit us whenever you want, just make sure you check all non-Hungarian-Bulgarian AK at the door. :D

[MDIAKS74]

Is the Type II in the picture above the one in Texas, the one in Louisiana or another one I don't know about?

MDI

[AvtomatKalashnikova]

Don't know where that type II is located, but I am sure there are very very few of them around in the US.

[WildWes]

Avtomat, couldn't help but ask, nobody has a good site with the pre-ban variants of Chinese AK's that I've seen yet. Know of any?:confused:

[MDIAKS74]

Pretty sue that is the Type II here in the DFW area. I've shot it and both of the AKSU's in the same picture. Fun piece.

MDI

[setex]

Great info!! I am thinking the same as some of these other guys - where is some good, comprehensive information on chinese AKs, the variants and history?

[AvtomatKalashnikova]

I don't know of a site with info specifically on Chinese prebans. When I have a couple Chinese prebans I'll get more info, but here's a bit of info I've gathered thru the years.

For all intends and purposes, the original Chinese Type 56 (Legend) are copies of the Soviet AK-47 Type III, these are the so called "Legend" models. When the Sino-Soviet relations went South, the Chinese didnt' get the specs for AKM. What they did was to make up their own stamped receiver to achieve the same purpose. They still called these stamped AK "Type-56", but it has several differences from Euro Pattern AKM. They used 1.5mm stamping instead of 1mm, used a different rivet pattern on trunnion/barrel, and they retained most of the AK-47 parts, such as heavy barrel and front sight. Some also had underfolding cruciform bayonet under the front sight, as the stamped Poly-Tech had.

When the Sino-US relations improved in the late 70s and early 80s, the Chinese started to export their AK to the United States (starting in 1983?). While there were a number of exporters, there are 2 major players, PolyTech and Norinco. I don't know much about Poly Technologies, other than it's probably an older company within the Chinese military. Their "Legend" model are milled AK-47 Type III cousins, and the AKS-762 model which are stamped AKM cousins with underfolding bayo. Both models come in underfolding stock as well. Most of the PolyTech's were stamped "386" probably a designation of the arsenal factory. Keng's Firearm in GA seems to be only US importer. There were a bunch caught in customs when '89 ban was signed. These were released after 6 years, had muzzle nut welded, underfolding bayo cut off, and stock swapped to Choate thumbhole stock. There were no official postban models imported into the US after '89.

NORINCO, or Northern Industrial Company, is the commercial arm of the Chinese Army, the PLA (People's Liberation Army). These guys probably corner 25%+ of the international arms market. They pretty much sell conventional arms in every category, from small arms, mines, rockets, anti-tank/anti-ship/anti-air missiles, armored vehicles, to even short/medium range land-based missile systems. Their exports tend to be of a lesser quality than PolyTech, probably due to the volume of AK they make each year. Technically Norinco AK are closer to "military exports" than PolyTech since these were made along side of the full auto military versions they sell to foreign nations. There are 3 basic kinds of Norinco in 7.62. Type 56 full stocked, Type 56-1 underfolding stock, and Type 56-2 side folding stock. All three variants use the Euro pattern bayonet. There's also the Type 84 which use 5.56mm NATO. These were aimed at exporting to countries already using the 5.56. There's also a Type 88 using 5.45mm that Norinco tried to market in the US. The '89 ban stopped these from coming in, but very few dealer samples got in. After the '89 ban, Norinco started to export MAK-90 (Modified AK), and NHM-91 (Nation Match) models in thumbhole stocks. This continued until '94 when Clinton banned all AK/SKS variants from China.

[AK-fan*]

Great thread guys!

The reason the Soviets switeched from the Stamped Type I to a milled Type II is because they could not get the exact specs on the stamped receiver. The prototypes they had fired over 13,000 rounds each before they ran out of ammo on hand for the testing. But when full-scale production began for the Type I there were too many rejected receivers that were out of spec. So the Soviets switched to milled until they improved their stamping technology in late 50's.
All this info is according to "Legends and Reality" by Val Shilin and Charlie Cutshaw.

-Later

[Immortal LuD]

You know, we should re-create this thread, with more information, and more pictures. ;) Just not enough info!!!

[TIM261]

I just completed my AK refresher course here. What a great way to start my morning! Thanks for the great site. :jump:

[Immortal LuD]

I love reading up on AK's, all the time...

Even though I've read it a million times, it's IMPOSSIBLE for me to remember a lot of things, including dates, Countries, etc...

I want to tatoo it in my brain, so that when it comes time to preach on about AK's, it will be right where I need it. :D

I was thinking about ordering a few books too. In the new Small Arms Review, they're advertising "Kalashnikov Arms"... 241 pages of AK history goodness. ;) Too bad it's $49.95 though. :(

[K1196A]

that's actually a good price for that book. get the tokoi book too......

[just4fun]

Where is JA's website for the chinese AK?

[just4fun]

Is the underfolding cruciform style bayonet that is shown mounted on the underfolding AK available? I have never seen the bayo with the mount for sale as a unit.

[AvtomatKalashnikova]

underfolding cruciform bayo are only found on Chinese AK, mostly PolyTech versions. Here's the link to JA's homepage on Chinese AK.

http://www.gunsnet.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=59399

The mount with front sight turn up for sale from time to time. Just keep your eyes open.

[recon]

:cool:

[bbittel]

Still investigating an underfolder- this forun is an invaluable resource so thanks again to all who make it possible.

From the thread above -
AKS47 - underfolder version of a type II AK-47 (milled receiver). The underfolding stock locks in to what appears to be about a minus 30 degree angle below horizontal.

The other version - AKMS - is an underfolder version of an AKM which is considered to be an "improved design" - stamped receiver (is that an improvement ?), lighter weight, laminated wood, straighter stock, and a rate of fire control (full auto only I assume).

The underfolder (AKMS) stock has no downward tilt like the AKS. Still a newbie when it comes to AK's - need some advice.

I thought a milled receiver was always considered superior to stamped, though the information at the top of this thread states that the AKM is an improved model.

3 questions -

1 - Which type of underfolding stock is preferable - the older AKS with the downward tilt or the AKMS ?
2 - What's the difference between the Norinco AKS and the Hungarian SA85.

3 - Where do the Yugoslavian underfolders fit into all of this ?

Thanks in advance for any help !

[MDIAKS74]

I have owned and shot both milled and stamped receiver AKs and do not see where a milled receiver rifle is superior in accuracy etc. to a stamped receiver rifle in my personal opinion. A milled receiver rifle probably won't crush as easily as a stamped rifle, but if you are in the situation where your rifle is being crushed, it probably won't make any difference to you.

The AKM was considered by the Soviets as the improved version. Lighter weight, less expensive to manufacture, etc.

As to which is preferable, the AKS-47 style underfolder or the AKMS, you would have to shoot both and determine which you like better. I like either over any of the strut type sidefolding stocks (East German, Romanian or Polish) and prefer the ASK74 type sidefolder to all of them.

The Hungarian SA85 is very close to the original Soviet AKM design. The Norinco AKS is based on the Chinese Type 56 stamped receiver rifle which differs in numerous ways from the Soviet AKM not the least of which are the rivet pattern used to hold in the front trunion, the wall thickness of the receiver (1.5 mm Chinese vs 1.0 mm Soviet) and the OD of the barrel at the chamber (19 mm Chinese vs 23 mm Soviet). Also, the Chinese underfolder stock assembly does not use the rear trunion for the lock up, it uses special structures pressed into the sides of the receiver walls. The construction of the Chinese underfolder stock is also different than the European style.

The Yugoslavs made both milled and stamped underfolders both of which differ drastically from the originaql Soviet designs. The semiauto ones that were imported into the U.S. by Mitchell Arms were all of the stamped variety, I believe. The Yugoslav AKMs (fixed or folding stock) all use a receiver that is closer to the Soviet RPK receiver than the Soviet AKM receiver. They have a 1.5 mm wall thickness and use the enlarged RPK type front trunion. There are several other difference which you can discover by observing a Yugo AKM next to a Soviet type AKM like those produced by Poland, the DDR, Humgary and Romania. It should also be mentioned that the Romanian use a distinctly different underfolder stock set up than the Soviet type used by the Poles, Hungarians or Russians.

[AvtomatKalashnikova]

Well said MDIAKS, thanks.

To add some info regarding some of your questions bbittel, the milled receivers were of an older design. It became obsolete when stamped receivers came into existence. From a military standpoint, stamped receiver is superior as the milled were heavier and more costly to manufacture. Then again, those were concerns to the military and not necessarily of civilians. The rareness of the milled AK in the US has generated this myth about its' superiority. Technically, it is definitely a stronger receiver than the stamped version. Jimmy from Global has said that the Hungarians have stress tested the stamped receiver (SA85M) and the first failure is the rear trunnion rivet area where the stamped metal would crack around 15000-20000 rounds. but this does not matter too much as the barrel will wear out around that time as well. This maybe the reason that the Chinese used 1.5mm steel instead of 1mm thickness for extra durability, then again it maybe due to the inferior Chinese metallurgy at the time. But then again, the flexible deign of stamped receiver works better in absorbing the rifle action so it has better tensile strength than milled receiver.

About the stock angles, if you look at the AK-47 and AKS-47. They both have angled down stocks, full stock or folder. This was in tradition of older bolt action rifle designs. Then in AKM and AKMS they used the "straight line" design much like the M16 and other newer automatic rifles so recoil will be better absorbed and results in better handling characteristics in full auto. The Chinese never changed to straight stock AKM design, so even their stamped Type56 retained the downward sloping stock, full stock and underfolder. It's only with the red bakelite sidefolder that they had to use the straightback design as it had to be folded that way.

[bbittel]

Thanks for the replies. The information has been great. Can I assume that any Norinco or Polytech series underfolder will have the angled down stock (as opposed to the straight stock shown in the pics above of the AKMS) ?

The AKMS's pictured above must be actual Soviet models, or Hungarian SM85s ? I think I like the straight stock design better. As for shooting each to compare - I wish ! You can find 2 or 3 underfolders at a show, but they sure aren't going to let you take one outside and try it out ! Usually, the folding mechanism is secured with a wire tie or something, though I guess if you are serious, the seller would at least let you operate the stock. I would want to inspect the internals and bore anyway.

Seems like finding a straight stock underfolder may be a bit of a challenge.

Again, thanks !

[MDIAKS74]

Only straight stock undefolders that are legal to have an operating folding stock on are either Pre-ban Hungarian underfolders (about $1400 right now if you can find one) or a preban Maadi that has been converted to underfold (again, big bucks), or a preban chinese that started life as a fixed stock rifle and someone has had a European undefolder installed on it (and once again, big bucks).

Martin

[AvtomatKalashnikova]

Finally had the time to update the AK-47 vs AKM picture. Hope it proves useful to you guys. :)

http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data/3022/7747AK47vsAKM.jpg

[bbittel]

Been a long time since I have posted since its been a long time since I have had a chance to do anything (new baby).

Today went to a local show and found 2 underfolders.

1 - Polytech legend. Never fired (according to owner). Private sale. Has box, 2 30 round mags, bayonette, oiler. Dark furniture, seems in perfect shape.

2 - FEG Hungarian SA-85M. Seller is a class III dealer - real nice guy. Said he bought it thinking it was unfired but upon inspection, found a slight bit of fouling on the bolt face. Broke it down for me and showed me. No wear on the rails, bolt, or anywhere else. Looks like it had maybe 50 rounds through it. Had box, 3 30 round mags, bayonette, 2 little bottles (did not look at them that close9, sling, book. Very light furniture - elm. Pistol grip is very plain - no checkering and seems thinner than the Polytech.

Polytech was $1550 - cash but negotiable. SA-85M was $1492, cash, not negotiable.

Which one ? Which one ? Both ???? Advice is appreciated. Tomorrow is second show day and last chance to get either.

Prices fair ?

Thanks !

[Immortal LuD]

I would definately grab the Legend... It's good to have the AK-47, but that's just me. ;) Price seems a tad high though.

[MDIAKS74]

The price on the Legend seems a bit high. The SA85M is right in the ball park of where these have been selling for. Neither of these rifles came into the US in great quantity and I am not sure (in regards to number imported) which is rarer. My perference would be for the Hungarian rifle, but that is just me.

MDI

[bbittel]

OK - Legend - 1 vote, SA85M - 1 vote. Legend pricey, SA85M about right but really only 8 bucks less though it comes with 3 mags verses 2, and a sling (not sure if the Poly had one but it does not really matter). Plus they are just not the same gun at all but they are both sweet.

Both are pricey as toys go. I also found a West Hurely Thompson 1921A for $895 - takes drums but does not come with any. Those things are HEAVY !!

Anyway, back to AKs - clock is ticking and wife is actually understanding that I MUST have an underfolder ASAP.

More votes ?

Thanks !

[bbittel]

Well I managed to get the cash together on a weekend. Drove back and paid a second admission to the show.

Decided to go for the Hungarian. Sold.

The Poly was still there but on closer inspection it was kind of banged up and I just did not feel that it was the one. So I have a large wad of money in my pocket and no underfolder :(

[AvtomatKalashnikova]

Both are abit over priced so dont' feel bad. Once the AWB go away, while imported preban AK aren't going to come in, domestic production of AK with evil features should shake up the market abit. Preban AK will fall abit, but eventually things will settle as people realize imported prebans wont' ever come in again. I see the market coming down 10-20% soon after 9/14/04.

[GARANDNUT]

Where does the folding plastic Russian stock for the 74 fit into this?

[ssr562]

Asome post and thanks for the info.It was very detailed and clear to under stand.You are a weath of nolage.

[recon]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9130124155072902952&q=ak47

[recon]

Great info here on 7.62x39 ammo! Thanks to our own member JA!

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/jfreeman246/ak_rifle_ammo.htm

[Cspidle]

Hi all!

New member here.

I am in the land of AK's...Iraq.

I am a convoy security escort team leader (civilian on DoD contract).

I just have been handed a brand new never fired AK with folding stock. Told it is chinese. I also have been handed a brand new never fired long barrel AK with a skelatal stock.

Both came straight out of an old bunker. I am most interested in any info on the long barrel. The identifying mark is a large triangle in a circle with arabic written next to it. the sn is 4235858 and is stamped 2002 next to the sn. The barrel is approximately 20" and has a nice suppressor on the end. The barrel is also ribbed (as if threaded but now as distinct) The reciever is stamped but heavy.

There is a rail on the left side of the reciever that appears to be for a scope. I hope so as I intend to use it as my rifle for designated marksman...(we suck hind teat on getting good gear) but I know I can reach out and deliver the mail with it anyway.

A picture is attached.

The shorter AK will become my duty rifle. I have one like it currently and when it was handed to me everyone said to get rid of it asap. they said everyone who had it before me couldn't get it to hit anything and couldn't get it sighted. Two hours at the range and I had it zeroed then qualified to the M16 qualification standard with it. That is for those who say AK's are not accurate.

Any info on what I really have would be great.

[BirdfromBenning]

Exellent info. You put alot into that .Thanks. I have several ak varients,but didn't know everything.My favorite is a home build with a Romy.I used some parts on the fcg from blackjackbuffers,and couldn't be happier.

Great info, only saw chinese like that once before.

Man,wtf, I couldn'nt tell from the pics and you say they have arabic writing on them.If you can send me a more detailed pic, i might be able to help ya.I'd sure be interested in knowing wtf it is. Hey,by the way, Thanks to all you over there kicking ass.

[Cspidle]

I just got back tobaghdad from the Sunni Triangle where I was escorting high explosive. The AK's came from a bunker at the ammo supply point. Now that I am in a more controlled environment i can get pics of anyting anyone needs to identify what I have.

can't wait to get to the range to shoot them both...

[zymmus]

3 - Where do the Yugoslavian underfolders fit into all of this ?

they also feature the bolt retainer which stops the bolt in rearward most positin when the last round is fired (works with yugo mags only), heavier barrel, thicker front handguards, night sights, muzzle granade louncher (aka 'tromblon') attachment and the appropriate sights. The thicker receiver was introduced to prevent damage to the gun when lounching grenades.

[zymmus]

i got an original AK47, and i'm looking to buy a bayonet for it, but the most common bayonet types are thos for the AKM. so, if i got one of these AKM bayo's, would it fit my AK?

[Robert71]

Thanks for the info.I bought a kit years ago and mine appears to be an AKM from 1982.

[alismith]

Too bad the pictures were replaced by red X's. They would have made things much easier.

[KenRose]

Just wanted to say great Info!! I really appreciate the site and the knowledge gained from here!!!! Keep it up!!!!

[streetdisciple]

lovwly write up old chap absolutely beautif
pls keep up the good work

[mrsb000]

hi
I am new to this form and would like some guidence I am looking to get a AK 47 before it is to late can someone tell which is the better ak model to get?
please help
thanks