EOTECH sight is fuzzy, how about yours?

[gun freak00]

I purchased a 511 sight and it seems fuzzy. The retical seems real grainy not a solid line. The brighter it goes the fuzzier it gets. Are all of them like this? It is the "F" model.

[pzjgr]

It will look like that if you have the brightness up....try dialing down your brightness...the more you dial it down the sharper it will appear. Don't forget, it is holographic, so the image is "built" by individual pixels into the whole image.

During typical daylight, when I turn mine on, I still dial it back 2-3 notches, which makes it much clearer. Also remember to focus beyond the reticle, and that will make it sharper too....

Do not expect a super sharp, solid line like the crosshairs on a scope....

Ohh, yeah, the other thing...don't forget with the holographic projection, it projects to infinity....so if you need corrective lenses (nearsighted) it will appear very blurry, since it is like looking at an object far away. Some people need glasses but don't realize it...this will compound the problem.

Believe me, if I take my glasses off, the reticle looks like one big blur!

[gun freak00]

Thank you for your response. I did turn it down and still seems fuzzy. All the advertisments and their web simulator makes you think it is a line rather than pixels. I odered it online and couldn't look through before buying it. I just didn,t know if I got a bad one.

[pzjgr]

I wondered the exact same thing when I got mine....but, at least for me, it seems if I dial it down a bit, and don't focus on the reticle (look past it if you know what I mean, focus on the target) it is sharp. It takes a little to get used to using it, but once you do you will love it. I know I really like mine, very fast on target, and I like the 2 eyes open sighting....

[gun freak00]

I guess I will go ahead and mount it. We were looking through it in the garage and hopefully when mounted it will be fine. I am changing the sight on my Storm from a mepro 21 to this sight and will see what one I like best.

[saami]

I am interested in what sight you find is better
mepro 21 vs 511 sight

[308]

We were looking through it in the garage and hopefully when mounted it will be fine.
Old post, but...

The sharpness of the EOTech display is related to the brightness setting and the current ambient light level.

In your garage, you probably only need the brightness ramped up a few clicks above the lowest setting. In very dark conditions, one click above zero will be adequate. In bright sunlight, and depending upon your target background, you may need to ramp it up to full brightness. In any of these cases, the EOTech can be adjusted to a sharp display.

You should have noticed by now that when the EOTech is first illuminated, it defaults to a relatively bright setpoint. In dim conditions, it will appear fuzzy and at the same setting in bright sunlight, it may need to be ramped up.

[JE3146]

I'd also like to add, many people with astigmatisms suffer from from this "fuzzy reticle" problem... if you have eye problems, then reticle clarity could be suffering because of it...

[gun freak00]

I am sure I have all the bad traits, doing the wrong things listed above.

All the adds I see and their web sight show a retical that looks like a solid line, like you drew it with a marker. None of these representations look fuzzy to me. When I look at my 511, the retical looks like it is made up of small round balls, like a line made up of the new led bulbs you see in flash lights. Even at he lowest seting to the highest, it looks the same. Granted at the highest it is damb bright and definately has a "halo".

I have trijicon sights,a mepro 21, a couple Hakko open sights, pro points, and even a early C- More sight. All of their different reticals, a little fuzzy sometimes but mostly not to bad. None of them look like a circle of little dots.

I am not trying to knock the sight at all, little dots or not, it stays on the Storm, I just wanted to know if it was supposed to be like that.

I have sent 3 e mails to EOtech over the last 3 months and have not yet received a reply. And yes I know I can call and write but I am sure they are as busy as I am, just wanted to see how much the little man meant to them.



I am interested in what sight you find is better
mepro 21 vs 511 sight


Sorry, my finger was starting to hurt after that last post and almost forgot to answer your question.

Both are great sights but I find they have different purposes. Now before anybody wants to go off on me, let me say this is only one mans opinion and mileage may vary.

The mepro sight can be seen in any light. I looked at a white shed with the sun shinning on it, had to close the other eye but I still could see the retical with the opened eye. :rotflmao: I like it on a gun that you will be doing more precision work at a distance but still have QCB capabilities. It also has very good low light capabilities. I have one mounted on a HK USC and the other on a AR15.

Now I'm not saying you can't do precision work with the 511 sight, it's just plain and outright a fast sight, really fast. I like it on a gun where fast aquasition of the sights is needed ( ok,wanted ). I have mine setting on top of a Berretta Cx4 Storm and it is a very quick combination.

[twesterh]

I just got my Eotech 511 last night and had the same problem. I know exactly what you are talking about because I had seen another guy's EOTech and it didn't do what mine was doing. After reading this thread I remembered that I had taken my contacts out before installing it. I put my glasses on and, WOW, what a difference! Looks like I know it should....

[thedaledoe]

It only appears fuzzy because as somebody said above its made up of a tons of tiny gots... i have a stigmatism or however its spelled.. dont think ive tried looking thru it with my glasses on.. have to give that a try.. i dont wear them to the range because i dont have the anti-scratch coating on them.. that i know of anyway

[gun freak00]

I don't think it is my glasses, my little boy can hit a 2'' clay at 50 yards with his open sight rifle and he see's the dots as well as my wife which neither wear glasses. Would a picture help?

[Bettendorf]

I'd also like to add, many people with astigmatisms suffer from from this "fuzzy reticle" problem... if you have eye problems, then reticle clarity could be suffering because of it...


Now I know why I can't group with my damn EOtech to save my life. No problems with irons sights though. I've got some wicked astigmatisms.

[thedaledoe]

That 1 MOA dot in the center shouldnt be fuzzy whether you half blind or not.. Sure its not the user? :D :nutkick: jk

[gun freak00]

Here is a picture of the 511 retical as my camera see's it. It just so happens that everyone who looks through it see's the same thing. It actually looks a little clearer in the picture than it does behind the gun.

[Krupski]

It only appears fuzzy because as somebody said above its made up of a tons of tiny gots... i have a stigmatism or however its spelled.. dont think ive tried looking thru it with my glasses on.. have to give that a try.. i dont wear them to the range because i dont have the anti-scratch coating on them.. that i know of anyway

Unlike most other "red dot" sights, the EOTech sight has a hologram window and a solid state red laser to display the reticle (which is just a holographic image of a reticle in the window).

Anything illuminated by coherent (laser) light will have an effect called "speckle".

Since every photon ("particle" of light) has exactly the same frequency and wavelength, the reflected photons are phase shifted by roughness at the molecular level and randomly add to or cancel each other (which is why you see millions of "dots"... those are where the photons added - the darkness between the dots is where the photons canceled).

Even a surface which seems smooth (like glass or ground and polished steel) will be "bumpy" at the molecular level and exhibit speckle when illuminated by laser light.

Try shining an ordinary laser pointer at a piece of paper or a wall and look at the dot. You will see that it appears to be composed of millions of tiny dots. That's speckle.

That's why I got an Aimpoint Comp M2 for my AR-15 rather than the EOTech... because I could see the speckle, it bugged me and I knew there was nothing to be done about it.

One good thing about a true holographic sight is that the reticle image is stored all over the window (this is true of ANY hologram).

If the window is cracked, dirty or partially missing, the reticle will still show up in it's entirety.

This means that a combat damaged EOTech will still be useful while a convention LED red dot (like the Aimpoint) would be disabled by damage.

I would say buy an EOTech if the speckle doesn't bother you (or you can't see it). Otherwise, get something that uses a non-coherent LED (i.e. not a laser) such as an Aimpoint.

Roger

[thedaledoe]

Wow.. thank you professor krupski :D

[gun freak00]

I also thank you professor. I just wanted to know if I received a bad one or not. I guess I will deal with it.