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TheRifleman
10-31-2001, 04:03 PM
Well I got out today with a few of my C&R rifles. Unfortunately the ammo for the MAS and the K-31 is expensive so I did'nt do any huge test, only fired a box of 20 through each.

First off, if you guys with type 03's don't have a K-31, take my advice and call up AIM and buy one. This is one sweet rifle. And it shoots great. The ammo I had was the FNP 7.5 Swiss. I have heard on the swiss rifle forum that the ammo was not to good(underpowered) but since the brass is reloadable it's worth buying to get the brass. Anyway, the first five rounds I sent down range made a nice little 2" group @ 100 yrd. Thats off a bench with rest. Now I'm sure with some good handloads that will improve. And I'm not the best shooter with iron sights. It did shoot to the right however about 4" right of point of aim. The sight tool for the k-31 is $40. so I'm gonna have to figure a way to move the front sight without one. Cause I ain't spending $40. on a sight tool. I really enjoyed this rifle today. I may buy another one for $139. what the hell....

The MAS is also very nice. Again I had bought some FNP 7.5 French and on Parrallx's board some of the guys were reporting under powered catridges and the stiff action on the MAS49/56 would not function properly with the FNP. I did not have a single malfunction with the 20 rounds I shot. Afer the first couple to make sure the rifle was OK, I loaded them in the mag 5 at a time. This rifle also shoots very well. Very smooth, hardly any felt recoil. It also is able to group pretty well. I was able to keep 5 rd groups in a 3" cirlce at 100yds. I'm sure both the rifles above are better than the shooter.

I also took along one of my m48a Yugo mausers as I had just aquired some Yugo 8mm surplus. This stuff is fantastic in the Yugo mauser. It cured my problem of shooting high. The Turk ammo shot really high in my Yugo mausers, all 3 of them. The heavier 196gr bullet in in the Yugo ammo sure helped that. It also seems more consistant. With the Turk ammo, some seem hotter than others. Lot of guys say this is dangerous but I have experienced no split cases or primers backing out or any other signs of high pressure. It just shoots high. Also, several on other boards reported troubles with the Yugo ammo, hangfires and hard extraction etc... This was a little disconserting to me, especially the hang fires, but I shot 40 rounds of it today with no problems what-so-ever.

Also took my little Makarov I just bought the other day. Nice little pistol. I chased a tin can around the 25yd plinking range with no problem. Shot a 50 rd box of Silver Bear hollow point ammo through it with nary a malfunction. No problems, $119. well spent.

So thats how I spent my day. Had a great time and did'nt even take an AK with me. Gasp......:eek:

1 Patriot-of-many
10-31-2001, 05:06 PM
Sounds good,I'll have to buy some ammo for my MAS now....Thanks for the report.

pro2nd
10-31-2001, 05:14 PM
Sounds good but I cant find any swiss ammo for under 40.00 a box of 20:cryeyes: also I wished you would have let me know I was also at the range today then I went and bought the last 91/30 AIM had also bought the last polish m44 sog had. the new price on 24/47 is 64.95 also had to get one more of those (from AIM)

TheRifleman
10-31-2001, 07:53 PM
pro2nd, you are welcome to go to the range with me anytime. I will e-mail you a few days before I go next time. I plan these things around the spousal unit's(SU) work schedule so I usually know a week ahead of time when my range time will be.

REDSTAR
10-31-2001, 08:45 PM
You bastards better quit cleaning out AIM or I'll sic Zouave on you! This is how he get's when weapons are bought out at the distributors:


http://uglypeople.com/uglymen/ugly-images/up-men-00456.jpg

1 Patriot-of-many
10-31-2001, 08:59 PM
DAMN And I thought Zouave was a little less than handsome to begin with!!!!!
It is halloween,but if I saw Zouave on my door step I think I'd be pretty likely to be packing an AR when I answered the door.....:eek:
Zouave you are UGLY when you're mad....

zouavexx
10-31-2001, 09:46 PM
I have always been fond of that photograph of me. It is the only one I have without my coke bottle glasses on!

1 Pat, I am ugly even when I'm not mad.

For those of you that don't know 1 Pat, he is my handsome 3rd cousin. Here he is!

1 Patriot-of-many
10-31-2001, 11:04 PM
Well that's certainly nice of you to say Zouave Buddy,Not to make anybody jealous but I've had some acting bits here and there....Believe it or not I stood in a couple times on the Conehead skits on Saturday night live when Dan was sick....Also had a role in the movie Alien nation.
My good looks make me good money(Other than the circuit freak shows that Zouave and Redstar used to travel in)....Their traveling ancestry goes way way back......Ever hear of the movie Elephant man??? That was their great great great Grandfather I believe....

pro2nd
10-31-2001, 11:22 PM
Hey I cant help it I was just going to get ammo and the guy told me he had 1 91/30 left so I said get it my wife was with me and she paid for it cool she also told the guy to double the ammo order man shes awsome.

Schuetzenman
11-01-2001, 08:58 AM
pro2nd,
Regarding ammo for the Swiss K31 rifles. Cole Distrubiting of Kentucky has it for about $13 a box of 20 and it's reloadable. This is the ammo TheRifleman is referring to when he writes about FNP which is the Portuguese arsenal stamp.

Schuetzenman
11-01-2001, 09:00 AM
Good range report TheRifleman,
Sounds like the Portuguese must have upped the powder charge a little bit on the ammo to do the 2 inch groups you are talking about. That or you have an exceptional K31 that likes the low powered FNP ammo.

A buddy of mine shot some in his about a year ago when it was last available and he was getting 4 to 6 inch groups. I couldn't do much better with it either.

TheRifleman
11-01-2001, 11:05 AM
Well, the ammo I got I just purchased. I assume it is fairly new mfg. I saw a lot of reports of the 7.5 French being so underpowered it would not cycle a 49/56 action. I had no problem at all with function on the MAS.

I have a hard time knowing if it is underpowered or not. After shooting the 8mm mauser, everything feels underpowered. Unless it's a .300 wetherby magnum. :D All I can say is I was impressed as hell by the k-31.

zouavexx
01-10-2002, 10:05 AM
bump :)