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Shikkapow
07-06-2005, 03:56 PM
I recently put on a Green mountain barrel, Blaster stock and a PC hammer into my 10/22.
Since the swapout I have been having numerous extraction failures to the point that I don't want to shoot the rifle anymore.
I thought that maybe the barrel was rotated a little and the extracter was hitting the barrel, so I adjusted it a little and it didn't really help. I would say one out of ten rounds fails to extract and I get a stovepipe.
Besides buying a new extractor, what else can I check to see if it was something that I changed that is causing the problem?
Thanks!
Jericho
07-06-2005, 08:19 PM
Take a spent cartrage and put it in the chamber then turn the barrel muzzle up and the case should fall out. It may be a tight chamber.
Shikkapow
07-06-2005, 11:38 PM
nope.. it sticks
I have to pry it out, and I can barely do it with my fingernails.
What options do I have?
Jericho
07-07-2005, 12:07 AM
I had the same problem and actually fixed it real easy, all you need is a milling machine and about 1000 hours of training... Or you can do what I did ;) Take the barrel off and get yourself a brass bore brush and a cordless drill. Chuck the boar brush in the drill and carefully insert the brush into the chamber only (try not to go to deep or you will hit the rifling). Run the drill for a few seconds and remove the brush. Take your spent cartridge and test again. Keep doing this until the case falls freely. I had the same problem with my Green Mountain barrel but it was every other shot that it would jam up. After I did this I was able to shoot the snot out of the gun and no FTF's
awp101
07-07-2005, 12:36 AM
For future reference FTE's can be: tight chamber, weak extractor spring, bad extractor, bad ammo, planets out of alignment, failure to pay proper homage to the gods of gunpowder, etc...
I was having the same problem as described in the following thread:
http://www.gunsnet.net/forums/showthread.php?t=154510
The HawkTech extractor fixed the problem of extraction, but recently I've been having problems with misfiring and I think the recoil spring has worn out...it does not seem to slam the bolt forward enough to lock up as it should.
Shikkapow
07-07-2005, 12:43 AM
I had the same problem and actually fixed it real easy, all you need is a milling machine and about 1000 hours of training... Or you can do what I did ;) Take the barrel off and get yourself a brass bore brush and a cordless drill. Chuck the boar brush in the drill and carefully insert the brush into the chamber only (try not to go to deep or you will hit the rifling). Run the drill for a few seconds and remove the brush. Take your spent cartridge and test again. Keep doing this until the case falls freely. I had the same problem with my Green Mountain barrel but it was every other shot that it would jam up. After I did this I was able to shoot the snot out of the gun and no FTF's
I had actually entertained that thought after you mentioned the tight chamber. I wasn't going to admit it or anything, but I thought about it.
I guess I'll give it a shot.
I was having the same problem as described in the following thread:
http://www.gunsnet.net/forums/showthread.php?t=154510
The HawkTech extractor fixed the problem of extraction, but recently I've been having problems with misfiring and I think the recoil spring has worn out...it does not seem to slam the bolt forward enough to lock up as it should.
I also guess that with a match chambered barrel you would need an extra powered spring to compensate for the tighter tolerences.
Upgrade the addiction? never happen :D
For future reference FTE's can be: failure to pay proper homage to the gods of gunpowder, etc...
I always thought those gods and the beer gods were one and the same.. Figured I was pulling double duty every few nights or so.
hmmmm....
Jericho
07-07-2005, 02:10 AM
.... but recently I've been having problems with misfiring and I think the recoil spring has worn out...it does not seem to slam the bolt forward enough to lock up as it should.
308 do the same test but with a live round. You should be able to drop the round into the chamber and have it seat. That was the other problem that I had with my barrel is the round would not seat when the bolt closed. I would have to push the bolt closed and the brush trick fixed that also.
308 do the same test but with a live round. You should be able to drop the round into the chamber and have it seat. That was the other problem that I had with my barrel is the round would not seat when the bolt closed. I would have to push the bolt closed and the brush trick fixed that also.
Thanks Jericho, I'll give it a try. Maybe bring the cordless drill to the range ;)
Shikkapow
07-07-2005, 02:10 PM
I feel like a dumbass
I was using .22 snap caps to try and see if the round would fall out of the chamber as Jericho posted. :boozer:
I kinda missed the point of having the bullet wedging itself in the chamber, and not spent brass.
I took a live round and pulled the bullet out, and it falls out easily.
so I am back at the beginning. Is this an extractor/weak spring issue?
Jericho
07-07-2005, 06:06 PM
I feel like a dumbass
I was using .22 snap caps to try and see if the round would fall out of the chamber as Jericho posted. :boozer:
I kinda missed the point of having the bullet wedging itself in the chamber, and not spent brass.
I took a live round and pulled the bullet out, and it falls out easily.
so I am back at the beginning. Is this an extractor/weak spring issue?
A live round should fall in and fall out of the chamber with little effort. A spent case (once fired) should easily come out of the chamber (remember it has been pulled out of a chamber once. If the spent case is not comming out then hit it with a brass brush.... Just my opinion ;)
Shikkapow
07-08-2005, 01:37 AM
A live round should fall in and fall out of the chamber with little effort. A spent case (once fired) should easily come out of the chamber (remember it has been pulled out of a chamber once. If the spent case is not comming out then hit it with a brass brush.... Just my opinion ;)
I tried it with both a snap cap :slap: and a live round and It was very hard to get it out of the chamber. Almost to the point of getting a tool, because my fingernails werent strong enough.
With a spent case (the one I took the bullet out of) it slides out easily. Would the case expand enough so that if it was actually fired and not pried apart, that it might stick in a tight chamber?
Even so, I guess a smidgen of polishing with a brass brush isn't going to hurt....
Jericho
07-08-2005, 03:18 AM
yes the fired case will expand and stick in a tight chamber. Hit it with a little bit of polish and go from there. A full case should not be that hard to pull out INHO.
As for the snap caps, they are usually plastic and I don't think they are made to high tolerance standards. I usually use a spent case for my .22's as a snap cap. What better way to dry fire a .22 then to have the fireing pin hit what it was ment to, and the chance of hitting the same edge is not likely ;)
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