Just Got My PPSH-41 Parts kit

[Shadowsan]

I got my PPSH-41 parts kit from Centerfire Systems less than an hour ago. I checked it out real good, and it has NEVER been fired!

I couldn't believe how good a condition it was in, as it was advertised to be in only "excellent condition".

While I was studying the parts kit, I felt sad that it had to be cut up before it could be sold to me.

Then I realized it wasn't just ME, it was all American citizens. We have a government that trusts it's citizens far LESS than Saddam trusted his citizens. H**l, under the Iraqi government, Iraqi citizens can purchase one of these, as well as any other firearm, without even completing any paperwork. Much less having to be checked out to see if they are "O.K." as citizens.

I have to admit this thought brought a tear to my eye. We, as citizens of America, are so NOT Free!

I am happy about the purchase, but sad about our government. Enough said!

[patm41]

Is the front trunion included ?? and is it a Polish gun ?

[mr avacado]

Centerfire's ad says they are polish and the pictures show that the front trunnions are cut.

[Shadowsan]

Front trunion is cut, so a need one will need to be purchased from Coldsteel Solutions.

Barrel was so shiny, it looked like a spotlight shining through it.

I am giving thought to another such PPSH-41 parts kit, with spare magazines this time.

Weight can be reduced by using an aluminum tube to make the receiver, and riveting everything in place.

[iamiwa]

:useless:

[C_Kassidy]

I am waiting on my PPSH-41 and my Suomi from Centerfire. They will be here Tues/Weds. My buddy had me order him one two so I will pick the best of the pairs :ywoot

I did get my Sten Mk III kits today :ywoot

[Shadow Walker]

Good deal! You may want to find info on the Teacher Rifle. It is home made from Sten parts. It is a S/S rifle in .30 M-1 Carbine caliber, although most any caliber will probably work as long as the caliber is less than the .30 carbine.

As for the PPSH-41, if your's is as good as mine, you will not be disappointed.

The Soumi parts kit were excellent or better, except for the receiver sections which are disappointing to say the least. I did notice that the Soumi barrels can be machined to fit the PPSH-41. That way you can interchange the two calibers. Also, the drum for the PPSH-41 was copied from the Soumi drum, so you should be able to slightly alter the Soumi drum to fit the PPSH-41.

The PPSH-41 drum is only a few humdreds of an inch shorter than the Soumi, at least according to my memory.

While I haven't given it much thought, the PPSH-41 can be built as a pistol. That way using the original barrels will be no problem if you don't build the kits as SBRs.

[C_Kassidy]

My PPSH-41 kit arrived today as well as the SUOMI.

The PPSH-41 is spanking new. I guarantee it was never fired as there is no powder burns at all on the muzzle. I can't swear it, but I would suspect these have chrome lined barrels. Numbers matching and a great looking finish. The mag that was included has a nice tight fit with no wobble at all. :lookatme: I am as happy as could be with this kit. I don't understand why they cut the trunnion and why they cut the heat shroud like they did. That will be a pain to weld back together (heat shroud) but I guess its good if I want to extend it to cover a longer barrel but SBR's are allowed in my state.
Now, just to convert it to semi......
http://www.gunco.net/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCF07011.jpg

Oh, yea, I am still smiling on this one. Heres my Sten :)
http://www.gunco.net/gallery/data/500/medium/Sten_MK_III1.jpg

My SUOMI is total crap and in my opinion, worthless. I won't use it as it looks like too much trouble. I didnt even take a pic of it.

[Shadow Walker]

I noticed the barrel jacket on your PPSH-41 has round holes, while the barrel jacket on mine has slotted holes. I was just wondering why.

As for the Soumi, you can make a nice dummy SMG from the parts. It's not often you can get a parts kit so cheap, so why not hang on to it until someone makes a cheap dummy receiver for it.

[C_Kassidy]

I got to looking at my PPSH and I took the trigger assembly off the stock. I believe the AK trigger group COULD work but I am unsure how to modify the bolt. I know someone who has one of the early PPSH clones that I/O used to sell. I am going to examine his a bit closer to see exactly what I have to do to mine.
He said his uses the AK FCG but he couldnt explain to me the bolt mods. Anybody have any ideas who could do this kind of machine work ? :hammer

[Shadow Walker]

While I haven't seen a semi-auto PPSH-41 conversation, I can't see why the set-up can't be like the way most semi-auto .22 rifles are made.

It appears that the firing pin and the extractor are held in with the same cross pin. If so, remove the firing pin and drill a smaller hole through the length of the bolt. Step the hole up to the size firing pin you will use.

There are a number of choices of firing pin and means of striking it available. My choice at the moment is a modified BMG .50 firing pin.

Once the hole is drill for the firing pin, "slice-off" the rear 5/8 inch of the bolt.
After cutting the firing pin for correct length, install it in the 5/8 inch section of the bolt. This is your Firing Pin Striker Assembly, pretty much the same thing as a .22 rimfire rifle uses.

This FPSA is spring operated using a spring that coils in the opposite direction of the bolt spring, and fits around the bolt spring. This will prevent the two springs from becoming "involved" with each other.

The upper portion of the bolt that fits into the upper receiver will have to be reduced in size for the new "legal" smaller receiver. If you are good, a metal grinder can be used to remove the necessary metal. The remainder of the bolt can be left as is.

The lower receiver will have to be modified so it will work in the semi-auto function only. Welding in a metal "block" should be all that is needed. I am saying this without ever having looked at the inner workings of the lower receiver.

If you have a better idea on any of this, I will willingly concede you are smarter than I.

[StooperZero]

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Heres a thought.

The use of a "slimmer" FCG say M1 Carbine or 10/22.

Make the firing pin setup like a spring loaded ak bolt.


Cut a notch running down the bolt and add a small rail in the tube so only a semi bolt can fit.

[C_Kassidy]

Prexis/Sten have a really nice design on their website for the bolt modifications. I think I am going to go that route with mine. I do not know what FCG they suggest using but I am going to guess its the AK type since that is what the I/O clones used.