Hakim-8mm?

[recon]

Whats your take on these? :D

[parrothead]

A Ljungman on steroids! If its priced decent and in good shape, go for it. Just watch out for the muzzle blast, it likes to come back at you.

[romarana]

I have an article on my web page about making them take mg 13 mags. ....I know I know lifted from another source but creditited. But I added some pictrues of the conversion.


Also do not shoot turk ammo in them. A guy on paralax's board shot turk and broke his extractor. Took him a year to find a new one. WHen he did he then attempted to shoot turk again....guess what broke again and he is still looking for an extractor.

[Schuetzenman]

Originally posted by romarana
Also do not shoot turk ammo in them. A guy on paralax's board shot turk and broke his extractor. Took him a year to find a new one. WHen he did he then attempted to shoot turk again....guess what broke again and he is still looking for an extractor.

Yes the Turk ammo is the original "S" type cartridge. See the last part of my post on Turkish Mausers for some insight to this problem.

I've been saying the Turk ammo is very hot and so have others. IMO it's boarderline safe even in bolt guns. Just depends on what batch you get.

The Hakim is designed for the "sS" heavy (198gr.) and slower (about 2600 fps) Spitzer bullet loading. Think Romanian, German or Yugoslav ammo.

They Hakims also take the Swedish Mauser Bayonets like the AG42B and model 96 and 38's take. A buddy of mine says that they even made 30 round mags for the Hakim rifles. But they are rare.

[TinMan99]

The Hakim 8mm is one of the more interesting entries to my collection. It's certainly one of the most powerful MBR's out there and one of the longest. Parts are hard to come by if you hadn't gleaned that from others who posted here, though proper care should yield a lifetime of enjoyable plinking. Most that are in country fall into two categories. Excellent or better to absolute trash, though the latter are rare and subjects of abuse once they got state side. Accuracy is run of the mill mil surp, but it sure is a lot of fun to shoot. The adjustable gas system makes it a pleasure, though even properly adjusted, the action is still rather violent. The only case head separation I had occured on my Hakim, so buy an 8mm broken shell extractor. Sights are rudamentary sliding bar and front post, though windage adjustment is much easier with the adjustment screw on the front sight block. The action is unique and take-down requires a few safety issues. Whereas the Garand is known as a thumb-buster, the Hakim is a finger amputator. Be careful putting your fingers in the locked back action. Put the rifle on safe and pull back on the bolt to lock it inside the action cover or you will regret not having done so in short order. The recoil spring is particularly strong (it is 8mm after all) and if you accidently press the floorplate in the mag down where you disengage the holdback block, the bolt will slam forward and it does have a thin edge and a paper punch like gas chamber, both of which will give you a new understanding of pain if not giving you a personal tragedy of losing a part or all of a finger. Disassembly is a breeze, but remember to always lock the bolt into the action cover by putting the rifle on safe then pulling the bolt all the way back until it locks. The rest of the rifle breaks down easy as pie and is a breeze to clean and maintain. There are websites out there detailing the process. Parts and accessories are hard to come by, but bayonets and slings area available. Being that these rifles were made during the association Russia had with Egypt, a canvas or leather straight tag Nagant sling will be at least partially correct. Original slings are hard to come by to say the least. The action is so simple, there aren't many spares you need to keep on hand. Recoil springs, firing pin, and extractor are about it. The bores aren't chromed, so inspect any rifle you ponder buying. Most have immaculate bores, for some reason they really took good care of these. Don't use corrosive primered ammo in these babies. Though the gas tube is stainless steel, the gas does bleed into the receiver area and thusly the trigger group, and the gasblock and adjustment nut are not lined or stainless steel either, and if the threads get fouled in your gas nut, youre pretty much screwed adjusting the gas ever again. No sense making it a major chore to clean after every shooting, so stick to modern commercial 8mm and save the Turk stuff for the bolt guns. I recommend the rifle to any collector or someone that likes big caliber military weapons. It's also a slice of history if youre at all interested in the Arab-Israeli wars. I like mine, but she's like a spirited mare. She kicks hard, she nips fingers, but she rides well.

TinMan99