somebody help me

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hey guys,
I am having some trouble deciding some things,

!, I am planning on buying a new rifle in .223 cal

I have some previously reloaded ammo that I was using in a newish ruger and I dont know if it will (hurt) the new rifle or if it will be fine??? I cant remember the previous loading details, should I buy new ammo and disregard the reloaded stuff???

2, I am planning on also buying a rifle in 7.62 x 39

I have a few hundred rounds of military ammo but it is not reloadable (cant remember the name for it but it has 2 flashholes instead of one!!!

should I buy new (reloadable) ammo or is it ok to use the military stuff in my new baby???


:thud: :thud: :thud:

[Rew]

What kind of rifles are you getting? If the reloads are safe in the Ruger, they should be safe in any modern rifle. Same with surplus. ;)

[C_Kassidy]

Hmm.. .223's ok.
Vepr K
SAR-3
Steyr AUG

Or one of those Yugo's in 223. I forget their designation.

ETA: Forgot about the Vector V53 (or 93, can't remember).

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Hmmm I am over here in Australia and I dont kno of those types u mentioned???

my favs at the moment is a Howa Christensen Arms Carbon Fibre Thumbhole Supreme in .223 and a CZ527 in 7.62X39

[C_Kassidy]

I didnt know you were in Australia. I do not think you would be able to own any of the rifles that I stated because of your countries gun control laws.
But for reference, the rifles I mentioned were the:
Steyr AUG
http://world.guns.ru/assault/aug_r.jpg
The vector V53 is a semi auto copy of this
http://world.guns.ru/assault/hk33.jpg
The Vepr K
http://www.impactguns.com/store/media/vepr_k_223.jpg

The SAR-3 is just a Romanian Kalashnikov chambered in the .223

I am not a big fan of the M16/AR15 type weapons but I guess those would be an option too.

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I didnt know you were in Australia. I do not think you would be able to own any of the rifles that I stated because of your countries gun control laws.

yeah sorry m8 I should have said so hey :thud:

we would be skinned alive if we thought about something like those ones :seeyeah:

[Ruger mini14 fan]

I'm guessing the Ruger rifle that you mentioned was the mini-14, as I believe that is the only gun that company makes currently that is chambered in that cartridge. You can't always be sure with reloads, so I would recommend just firing one or two reloads out of it, unloading it, and looking it over to make sure the bolt functions properly and stuff like that. (A bullet concentricity guage would also probably come in handy.) Most modern guns that are sold at regular prices are built to withstand even the toughest hand loads. One thing to keep in mind if you plan on buying an AR-15 type rifle is that cartridges that are made of laqcuer coated steel (Wolf and other cheapos) don't always work well with that style of gun. Also for a rifle chambered in 7.62 by 39mm I would recommend the Ruger Mini 30, and there are several Kalashnikov variants in that caliber. Hope I could be of some help. :seeyeah:

[Rew]

Ruger Mini 14 fan, you might want to read at least the last post before you make a new one. The man is in Australia. He can't buy an AR15 type rifle. I doubt his .223 is a mini-14 what you want to bet it's an M77? Might be a No 1 or No 3 however. All come in .223.

Wolf ammo works just fine in my AR's, all of them.

Oh, :welcome: to TGN. ;)

[Ruger mini14 fan]

Ruger Mini 14 fan, you might want to read at least the last post before you make a new one. The man is in Australia. He can't buy an AR15 type rifle. I doubt his .223 is a mini-14 what you want to bet it's an M77? Might be a No 1 or No 3 however. All come in .223.

Wolf ammo works just fine in my AR's, all of them.

Oh, :welcome: to TGN. ;)
Well, I'm not always right, I thought he ment a ruger semi auto, but I guess it could be the bolt-action M77 or the single-shot. No.1 or No.3. sorry. And until recently I am pretty sure the Wolf Performance line of Russian Surplus ammunition was made out of Laqcuer-coated steel, they have recently switched to brass. At least that's all I can get at my local Pawn Shop.
Dadgum those gun control laws, eh?

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hey fella's
ok the Ruger was a bolt action Stainless Barrelled/Synthetic. M77 from memory.
I have been looking around and so far the best value for money rifle seems to be the Weatherby Vanguard (VARMINT) Sub MOA, at around $900AUS with a scope compared to a minimum of $1800+ scope and rings for a Howa/winchester/Sako.

we do have access to the Ruger mini's but I am looking for a rifle capable of sniping varmints and also capable of benchrest work.

as for Wolf ammo it is very cheap over here compared to the other stuff we can get but it is in steel cases (does that matter?) and it is not reloadable which I want to work towards.

just to show u lucky buggers how scarce semi autos are here I have never even fired one :sleeping:

[Rew]

That's interesting, the Howa is more expensive than the Weatherby. They are the same rifle. Over here it's the reverse. It's a good rifle. You can use Wolf ammo either the steel or the brass cased stuff. It's not the most accurate stuff in the world but fine for plinking. ;)

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yeah the more I think about it the more i want the weatherby

[CHEK52]

Hey!

I would look into a rifle in a larger caliber like .30-06 or .308 much better performance for the longer ranges 300+ yards than the .223 or 7.62X39 rounds. If your serious about reloading you will have a much larger selection in bullet weights also. You can also shoot .22 caliber bullets utilizing sabots in these calibers. I'm not sure what type of varmints are available in your area...but this would definitely cover a wide range. I spent two weeks in West Geraldton Australia and had the oportunity to see what you guys call the "outback". There's definitely some long range shooting oportunities out there.

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thanks for the advice buddy but I have a heap of .223 and 7.62 x 39 ammo, I am limited in the size of cal I can go around here without having people calling the police on ya even when ur doing the right thing????

.223 is a nice cal for around here as we only have wild dogs and foxes, I have to go further out to find the pigs and such (which I am not doing as yet)

I will get a 7.62 x 39 for a little later when i want to chase some piggies, most of the shooting I will be doing for now is med to short range so the distance to reach out and grab is not needed yet.

[50of4064]

The .223 can be a very good round. and the fact that you have a bolt action improves the accuracy a bunch. Look into the rate of twist ( this can limit the bullet weight. ) Assuming you plan to re-load: The length of the barrel; sights or scope; is the stock glass bedded and is the barrel free floated,? these all have a bearing on how accurate the rifle can be. Even if you buy a rifle and do nothing to enhance it, re-load, and get someone that does to help you get started. Read all you can get your hands on and after putting sevral hundred rounds of varring weights and powder combinations through your rifle, you will find a combination that gets the best accuracy from that rifle. stick to the recipies in the reloading manuals and start with the lowest amounts and work your way up, not exceed the the max loads. Good luck and good shooting!