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Steven Mace
10-26-2006, 02:31 AM
Stern wants NBA players to leave the guns at home

By BRIAN MAHONEY, AP Basketball Writer
October 25, 2006

NEW YORK (AP) -- David Stern understands having a gun to protect your home. He's not convinced carrying one on the streets makes you any safer.

For that reason, the NBA commissioner said Wednesday that he would prefer his players leave their firearms behind when they go out.

"It's a pretty, I think, widely accepted statistic that if you carry a gun, your chances of being shot by one increase dramatically," Stern said during his preseason conference call. "We think this is an alarming subject, that although you'll read players saying how they feel safer with guns, in fact those guns actually make them less safe. And it's a real issue."

It's one that was raised recently when Indiana's Stephen Jackson shot a gun in the air at least five times outside an Indianapolis strip club on Oct. 6. He originally told police he fired in self-defense during a fight in which he was hit by a car.

The NBA's collective bargaining agreement allows players to own licensed guns, but they can't carry them on any league or team business. Asked what kind of firearm rule he would want if collective bargaining weren't involved, Stern said: "I would favor being able to have a firearm to protect your home. Period."

He added that walking the streets carrying guns was "dangerous for our players," but said there has been no further discussion with the union about strengthening the policy.

Union spokesman Dan Wasserman said it already was bolstered in last year's agreement, at the request of the league.

"In response to issues raised by the NBA during bargaining last year," he said, "a provision was added to the collective bargaining agreement that subjects the players to discipline if they bring any kind of firearm, even if it's licensed, to an NBA arena, practice facility, or even a team or league* offsite promotional appearance."

Wasserman also said that the dangers of firearms are discussed during the rookie transition program, where players are "informed of the legalities of it, what you can or can't do, and the pros of cons of having a weapon are discussed extensively."

With the start of the season less than a week away, Stern also addressed the arena situation in Sacramento. The city's residents will be asked to approve two ballot measures on Nov. 7 that would increase local sales tax as part of the Kings' quest to replace Arco Arena with a new downtown building.

The measures are considered long-shots to pass, and Stern seems to understand why after claiming that a deal between the city and the developer hasn't been finalized.

"In the absence of a deal between the city and a developer, I don't know what any fair-minded citizen of Sacramento is being asked to vote on," he said. "I would love to see them support an arena development, but I would tell them that they better make sure that the city gets with it to see whether the deal can in fact be done. Right now there is no deal anyplace."

Also, Stern said he expected to rule on Larry Brown's grievance with the Knicks sometime during the second week of the season. The Knicks refused to pay the remainder of Brown's contract after firing him one year into a five-year deal.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-stern-guns&prov=ap&type=lgns

Steve Mace

ubersoldate
10-26-2006, 02:41 AM
It's a pretty, I think, widely accepted statistic that if you carry a gun, your chances of being shot by one increase dramatically
Oh is it?
I always thought it meant someone ELSE was going to get shot..

Jeez, crazy what next, I cant take my gold teeth and chains out either? :big:

Steven Mace
10-28-2006, 03:36 AM
NBA players shouldn't need reminder to leave their guns at home

19:27:36 EDT Oct 27, 2006
Canadian Press: NANCY ARMOUR

(AP) - When David Stern suggested NBA players might want to consider leaving their guns at home, the commissioner overlooked a few things.

Are nunchucks and knives still OK? Where does he stand on flammable liquids and Samurai swords? How about fireworks? The notion of players walking around with any of these is, of course, ridiculous. But so, too, is Stern having to remind grown men to use their brains. Guns were never meant to be accessories, and toting one in public - especially to a nightclub or other alcohol-fuelled spot - is nothing more than an invitation for trouble.

Unless it's Shaquille O'Neal getting a head start on his second career in law enforcement, leave the weapons at home.

"It's a pretty, I think, widely accepted statistic that if you carry a gun, your chances of being shot by one increase dramatically," Stern said earlier this week during his pre-season conference call. "We think this is an alarming subject. Although you'll read players saying how they feel safer with guns, in fact those guns actually make them less safe.

"And it's a real issue."

And a reminder that for all the good LeBron James and Dwyane Wade have done the last two years, the NBA still has some work to do on its image.

The NBA made it through the post-Jordan era in part by marketing itself to the hip-hop generation. It was edgy cool - Allen Iverson with his checkered past and rebellious present, and high schoolers who thumbed their noses at tradition to become instant millionaires.

But then things started getting a little seamy. Kobe Bryant was accused of rape. The Americans looked more like spoiled brats than a Dream Team at the Athens Olympics. The Brawl at The Palace in the Detroit made fans wonder if they should fear for their safety at a game.

Edgy had gotten out of control, and the NBA has been working overtime to clean up its image.

Having James and Wade, as impressive off the court as they are on, as the league's newest poster boys has helped. So, too, in a small way, does something like the dress code.

But a player getting in trouble with a Glock or Beretta is going to trump a snazzy suit and a dazzling smile any day.

Many players say they have guns for protection, and Stern has no problem with keeping one in the house for safety. Never mind that an alarm system or a couple of Rottweilers would be just as effective.

The idea that anyone needs a pistol when he goes out for the evening, though, is absurd. They're not in Colombia or the Middle East.

The NBA devotes considerable time to educating its players about the dangers of owning a firearm. Guns and the various state and federal laws are covered extensively during the five-day rookie orientation program. The topic is addressed again at meetings the league has with each team during the season. The players' union also sends out information each season on firearm laws.

There's even a provision in the collective bargaining agreement that prohibits players from carrying firearms when they're on league or team business. That means no guns in the arena, the practice facility, and certainly not at a promotional appearance.

Some players still don't get it, though.

Indiana Pacers guard Stephen Jackson is now facing felony and misdemeanour charges after turning an Indianapolis strip club into a firing range earlier this month. Jackson fired his gun into the air at least five times after an early-morning fight outside the club on Oct. 6.

Jackson, who is still on probation for his role in the Detroit melee, at first said he was acting in self-defence. Now he says he was trying to protect the three teammates who were with him. Whatever it was, it wasn't very effective, considering he was hit by a car AFTER he fired the shots.

"While we recognize a player's right to own one, we don't recommend you do," NBA spokesman Tim Frank said.

Lumping the entire NBA in with Jackson and the rest of the Pacers who were out partying at 3 a.m. during training camp isn't fair, but that's how it is. The NBA is still on probation with the public, and incidents like this set the whole league back.

No one knows that better than Stern, one of the savviest commissioners around. The NBA was bordering on irrelevance when he took over, in danger of falling behind even the NHL in popularity. With a little help from Magic, Bird, and MJ, he recast the NBA's image and made it a global force.

Now he's got James, Wade and Tim Duncan. That's what Stern should be talking about, not gun etiquette.

This is, after all, the NBA. Not the NRA.

http://www.cbc.ca/cp/nba/061027/v102746.html

Steve Mace