saiga handguard removal ?

[LAgunman2K-3]

i cant get it off, so what am i doing wrong?

i am able to disassmeble an AK handguard, but this one is either stuck on or im doing something wrong
funny part is, ive taken it off before couldnt get it this time

i lifted the gas tube lever, near the rear site, and unscrewed the sling swivel -- whats next?

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Ted Nugent for President in 2000

get out the marshmallows and throw another SUV on the fire -- Welcome to LA

[ED4x]

Which saiga?
The 7.62X39 I have after removing the gas tube and loosening the sling swivle just spread the plastic handguard by hand and pull foreward.
The .308 I have has a screw on the bottom at the reciever you have to remove.

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[LAgunman2K-3]

i figured it out

the gas tube is on there TIGHT, i had to pry it loose and up to get it out, and actually had to tap it back into place when i was done, the handguard came off easy after the tube was out

this was on a 7.62 saiga, there wasnt a bottom screw on the handguard except the swivel sling screw

thanks for the help -- how does that 308 shoot? accuracy and reliablity and recoil?

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Ted Nugent for President in 2000

get out the marshmallows and throw another SUV on the fire -- Welcome to LA

[This message has been edited by LAgunman2K (edited 06-27-2000).]

[SamK]

The .308's trigger swings up, instead of straight back (not a big deal, I got used to it). The muzzle climb is bad for me whenever I'm not using a bipod (I'm a wimp http://www.ak47forums.com/smile.gif ), thinking of getting a muzzle brake to help. As far as accuracy, I've gotten decent groups with the PSO-1 it came with, but I think I can do better with a crosshair type reticle. Reliable as an AK.

SamK

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[ED4x]

On my .308 saiga I can get groups just over 1" at 100 yards. To me it's more accurate than my romak3. The best I can get it is 2" groups at 100 yards. For both rifles I'm using the scopes they came with. I like the scopes the reticle takes some getting used to especially the first time I used it.

Recoil to me is not much more than 7.62X39 AK. The recoil is about the same as a M1 garand(not sure if you have shot one of them). But it has alot more muzzle climb than the 7.62X39 even compared to the 7.62X39 saiga.

I have both calibers in the saiga and I like the wood look on the .308 better.

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[LAgunman2K-3]

oh yeah ive shot the garand, with and without a muzzle break, and had my own version of m1 thumb -- what i call M1 index, i almost got my index finger slammed, got it out in the nick of time with some scratches on my fingernail --TOOO CLOSE -- lol
the smith break works great on a garand

good to hear the 308 saiga is a decent gun, ive shot the PSO-1 scope on a romak, 2 inch groups is about normal with cheapy ammo
maybe swap out the PSO scope for the MTK russian mount and add a better higher quality scope, the cross hair on the PSO is a popular euro style, some dont even have the crosshair and just a post, maybe not the best but kinda neat looking

i thought about having mike@MSC cut down the barrel on a 308 and make it a carbine/brush gun, i think they would be kinda neat if you dont mind the muzzle blast

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Ted Nugent for President in 2000

get out the marshmallows and throw another SUV on the fire -- Welcome to LA

[This message has been edited by LAgunman2K (edited 06-28-2000).]

[SamK]

Yeah, it'd make a good bush gun (should be great for hog hunting), I was thinking of trying an ArmaLite brake or an AK-74 brake like Mike has on the Yugo AK's. I hate that muzzle climb when I'm standing.

SamK

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[ED4x]

Yeah I hate when that happens with the M1. It hurts and can make a big mess(from blood splattering).

I use pretty much cheap ammo in both my romak3 and the .308 saiga.

To me the 2" group isnt too bad for it. But I would like to get some better ammo and see if I can improve on it.

I actually like the russian scopes that came with the 2 rifles. Only thing is I with the saiga had the illuminated reticle. But its a pretty nice scope.

You want to see scopes and muzzle brakes you should see the ones on my Ruger 10/22. I have a heavy match fluted stainless steel barrel with compensator(like it needs it) and a 4-12X40 Bushnell scope. At the local range I can get 10 rounds inside a circle the size of a quarter at 100 yards. That was a rifle I got and built to play with. The reciever is the only part thats Ruger. The bolt body is ruger but the extractor and firing pin are both titanium replace ments.



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