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srv656s
01-23-2002, 12:09 AM
Well, since a lot of us here have gotten the K31 rifles, Schutze suggested a postal match, and I am frankly excited to get my ass handed to me by some of you esteemed and experienced shooters.

What is a postal match? You simply shoot a target, and mail it to someone who compiles the results. Who would volunteer for such a painstaking and boring job? ME!! I suggest we get together a postal match, then you all could mail me the targets you shoot. I could then take pictures of the targets and could post the results to the internet!

Sounds fun!

Let me know if you are interested!

Shawn

pro2nd
01-23-2002, 12:25 AM
Im game for it but we all need the same target. Do you think you can come up with one and put a sticky at the top of the fourm so any one wanting to enter can just copy it? we could use it for other postal matches. 2nd we need to come up with a yardage from wich to shoot at the targets.



LETS GET IT ON!!!!!! :p

srv656s
01-23-2002, 12:30 AM
I think there are some standard NRA targets that are pretty easy to get... I see them up at Bass Pro Shop all the time... We'll have to discuss....

Shawn

Schuetzenman
01-23-2002, 07:07 AM
Yes, a standard target is a good idea and the way other postal matches I've participated in worked. The standard NRA pistol target for rapid fire might make a good one. I usually see them at Walmart even.

For yardage, the Swiss used these at 300 meters for qualification. However, most of us don't have 300 meter ranges available to us, so I'd suggest 100 yards or meters. Shooting posititon prone would be my choice but this may give some a problem if they have a back problem. Probably should say that you can shoot it from a benchrest and use support under the forend of the stock, that way just about anybody can shoot a competitive target.

Shawn, do you have a flatbed scanner. You could scan the winning targets in. Now what do we win? Right now the bragging rights to having the best K31 or possibly best hand loads. ;)

I'd suggest we use raw score to determine the winner. Use NRA scoring rules of if the bullet hole touches and breaks the line of the higher score ring boundry line, give them the point. In the event of a numerical tie, use the widest shot from center to determine the looser. Widest shot out in an identical score looses. You may find you'll need a set of vernier calipers for this.

TheBigCAx
01-24-2002, 01:40 AM
I got the calipers. Don't have the rifle. Sheutzenman, you sound like the man to do the job.

srv656s
01-24-2002, 10:10 AM
What is a caliper?

Shawn

awp101
01-24-2002, 10:34 AM
Originally posted by srv656s
What is a caliper?
Shawn

That is the size of bullet your rifle fires. 5.45X39, 7.62X51, 7.5X55 Swiss...wait....CALIPER? Nevermind.......

Calipers are like a compass from school only you use them to measure distances (on maps) or to take dimensions (of objects like in machining or holes in targets).

TheBigCAx
01-24-2002, 02:12 PM
A caliper is used in reloading, machining to take critical measurements. Looks like a ruler with a dial on it. Seen one Shawn??

srv656s
01-24-2002, 02:35 PM
Originally posted by TheBigCA
A caliper is used in reloading, machining to take critical measurements. Looks like a ruler with a dial on it. Seen one Shawn??

Aaaahhhh, i guess i never knew the name of one.

Shawn

Schuetzenman
01-24-2002, 10:53 PM
Originally posted by TheBigCA
I got the calipers. Don't have the rifle. Sheutzenman, you sound like the man to do the job.

Got to get with the program TheBigCA . . . you must get a K31! ;) As far as doing the job . . . I'm too busy to start scoring zillions of targets. Shawn is da man! Right Shawn. I'll provide any technical assistance over these forums or by email but I'll be lucky to get out and shoot a target for this deal on a monthly basis. Last year I averaged one trip to a range every 3 months. I'll have to push to do better this year.

A caliper I'm referring to is a Vernier Dial Caliper. It is some what like a ruller. If you get a digital they are easiest of all to read but most expensive of them all. The digitals can read out in english units or metric. English units are in thousandths of an inch as expressed by these numbers. 0.001" = one onethousandth of an inch. 0.004" is the thickness of common notebook paper. 0.003 is the thickness of an average human hair. Caliber, not caliper, is based on the decimal inch. .50 caliber is = to .500" in theory. .30 caliber = .300". In reality .50 cal bullets are .510 and .30 cal bullets are .308 in America.

Anyway with the vernier caliper (nick name is venerial caliper :D ) you measure from the center of the target to the farthest edge of a bullet hole if you want to determine a wide shot easily. If you want to get anal about it you make up a clear templet with a circle drawn on it and some cross hairs in the circle to use to find the center of the bullet hole. For our purposes just use the edge of the hole it all washes out the same as long as you pick the point that is on a line scribed through the center of the target that biscets the center of the farthest bullet hole. What to find that, take a ruller and a sharp pencil and scribe a line to the widest shot and measure where the line is on the outside edge of the farthest bullet hole for the tie breakers.

Probably it will be a matter of raw score, like if we go for 10 shot matches on a 10 point per hit target you have a possibility of 0 to 100 pts plus X ring hits to determine score with. I doubt it will come down to wide shot out in most cases.

I'll have to check out the local Wally Mart to see what type of targets and what are the model numbers of the targets that would be appropriate for the event.

srv656s
01-25-2002, 01:13 AM
I'll be happy to do the honors of compiling the scores. I'll be posting pics, so it will be plainly clear who scores how well.

Shawn