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clearblue
01-30-2002, 12:01 PM
I just noticed that Century has these fellows in excellent condition for $69.95, to C&R licensees.

Does anyone own this oldie?
Do you shoot it?


After viewing the gun at:http://www.auctionarms.com/search/displayitem.cfm?ItemNum=2306931
I canceled order- That straight pull bolt doesn't really float my boat-Oh well.

Found this information on a Google search:Quote
Despite this large amount of booty being shipped out of the country, Austria still had a large quantities of rifles around. In 1930 the Austrian government decided to rebarrel the the rifles for the new 8X56R, which had been developed for use in the "Solothurn S2-200" (MG30S) machine gun. The round itself has a diameter of 8.36mm and is 55.8mm long, with a sloping shoulder and a rim diameter of 14.08mm. It uses a spitzer type bullet weighing 13.25 grams (206 grains), with a muzzle velocity of about 1900 fps (in a 19" barrel).

After Germany absorbed Austria in 1938 the army did not use this as a main batttle rifle, but issued it to home guard and police units. They served in this capacity throughout the war with scant attention, compared to the Gewehr98.

Today these rifles are being imported and sold at bargin basement prices, but the ammunition availability, quality of some of the guns, and some bore conditions make for a good reason they are sold cheaply. Given the popularity of all Nazi memorabilia I am surprised they are still available at such low prices.

The ammo is the hardest part of the weapon to deal with. RCBS is the only company that manufactures anything for this caliber. They sell dies and forming dies (7.62X54 Russian to 8x54R), but they do not supply any support or data to help the reloader. There is still some original ammo available from some importers, but it all dates back to 1938 (including Nazi eagle headstamp) and is presumably corrosive, so use of this old ammo is not ideal. The real value is in that the ammo is sold with the spring clip, which without that clip the rifle becomes a single shot.

The rifle has some definite quirks, but it is accurate and fun to shoot and real piece of history available for a bargin basement price.
Copied from:http://www.recguns.com/IIID2a192.html

zouavexx
01-30-2002, 12:57 PM
Here is a picture of one:

http://pictures.auctionarms.com/January/Steyr%20M95%20Carbine%20PIC.jpg

Richard Simmons
01-30-2002, 01:09 PM
I purchased a VG 95/34 for $62.00 delivered on 1/17. I'll post some pics if it ever gets here.

zouavexx
01-30-2002, 01:12 PM
I might get one too, It would be good to learn more!!

Schuetzenman
01-30-2002, 03:24 PM
:idea: Zouave, if you haven't gotten your K31 Schmidt Ruben rifle yet, get that before a 95 Steyr rifle. They are light, kick like two mules and the bolts do not look any too strong to me. Ammo is expensive now as CAI ran out of it. All corrosive too!

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zouavexx
01-30-2002, 03:30 PM
Schuetzenman,

Trust me I am going to get the Schmidt Rubin before I get anything else... I just had to turn down a sweet Jungle Carbine (which I am dying to get), because of my intentions to get the K31.

I want one so bad I can smell the cosmoline!

You know, getting married and having kids has really put a crimp on my collecting!

K-31

neilwest
01-30-2002, 04:11 PM
1. Youll get one soon enough. Patience my friend. :D


K31,K31,K31,K31,K31,K31,K31,K31,K31,K31,K31, Dear how much do you think one of the boys is really worth?

Richard Simmons
01-30-2002, 05:54 PM
Yeah right. You think you're disappointed. As some of you know I'm leaving town in the morning. Well I just got home and the BBT made it's first attempt today with my M95/34. Had to call them and tell them to hold it until I can get it Monday. This sucks. Century is now shipping Adult Signature Required. My last orders were just Signature Required. They specify at least 21 yrs of age. I was going to have my 20rd old daughter get it on her way home but they said absolutely 21 minimum and no pickups the same day as a delivery attempt. This is going to make it hard to stay under the speed limit all the way from Omaha. Let's see, where's that radar detector, I know I can put nitros on the Rodeo, hmmmm.;)

Sajer
01-31-2002, 03:23 PM
I bought one from Century last year for $50 and it was in excellent shape. The ammo is a bit steep but I think FAC still had some. They do kick like mules! They're kinda of one of those forgotten C&R weapons.

Richard Simmons
02-06-2002, 04:51 PM
Just picked up my VG M95/34 yesterday. Stripped the stock down with Barney last night and gave it a rub with 0000 wool. Applied a handrubbed coat of BLO. This thing is BEAUTIFUL.:drooling:

I will post pics tomorrow or Friday. The metal finish is 95% or better though the buttplate is about 80% by itself. Slightest bit of surface rust inside the nosecap, barrel band and along side the mag under the wood. Buffed right off. I believe this was a rifle cut down to carbine length. The stock and nosecap are forced matched. It does have the longer rear sight. Bore is still full of cosmo so I'll have to check it tonight. There is no "S" stamped but I am very sure it is 8x56R. All CAI paperwork says 8x56R and the weapon shows all signs of being just that. The wood really is nice on this thing. I may buy another just to see it clean up like this. It is stamped Styer M95 and I believe it was originally made in 1909. I wonder if you could replace the barrel with a cut down 91/30 in 7.62x54? It should still be able to use the Styer clips and ammo would be lots cheaper. Any ideas?

SteveG
02-06-2002, 06:10 PM
If it isn't 8x56R, but the original 8x50R, you'll know immediately.

The metric designation for length makes that pretty obvious!

But on the bright side you can make brass for either from 7.62x54R without any problem other than it is a little short for 8x56R and gets shorter as you neck it up. Brass is easy, bullets are another matter. DKT wants a buck a piece for .329 dia bullets. I'm going to get a set of reduction dies to reduce .338 bullets down to .330 and use those. Cst bullet are another option if the bore is perfect.

It wouldn't be worth the money to rebarrel it and I think 7.62x54R is a higher pressure round if I recall. Don't quote me on the latter point.

Best of Luck,
Steve G.

Richard Simmons
02-06-2002, 09:06 PM
Got all the metal cleaned. A couple of minor pits on the top of the barrel where the nose cap covered it. The rifling looks good and the bore shines like new. I've run a brush through it about 200 times with Shooters Choice and it's getting less but still leaving a dry patch green stained. Wonder if the ammo for this is cupro-nickel? Either way it's cleaning up nicely. I'm gonna let the stock dry for one more day even though it feels dry. I'll put a coat of Bowling Alley Wax on her tomorrow and take some pics. I think I'll like this little girl. I need a bayonet, sling and about 1,000,000 rds of ammo. :D