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clearblue
01-31-2002, 02:13 PM
Hoping the 8mm Mausers,Czech, Yugo,and Turk I ordered from Century,et.al., arrive today,they were shipped, they said, on the 26th.
Dying to compare my Swedes with them.
If I had the bucks to spare, I'd go for one of those unissued Persians from Samco.
But gotta save a reserve in case Arsenal/Global bust on the scene with a new version/model AK.
clearblue
02-03-2002, 09:29 PM
Got three Turk Mausers in the garage waiting for some serious attention.
No matching numbers on any of them and they were the best Century was offering.
That's no problem, as once I got the bucket of gasoline out and started removing the cosmo the 1939 one is really starting to shine.
The bore looked dark, but the
carb cleaner and various bore cleaners are doing their job and I believe it's gonna be o.k.
The rifling is sharp and looks to me like it'll have no problem spinning a bullet.
All the Turk wood is really,really, I mean really, scruffy.
I'm sure the 1939 is walnut,but haven't come to a conclusion on the other two, yet.
The finish looks like it was done with an emory wheel,or 60 grit sandpaper. Again not a problem,as I know how to use sandpaper and that fine finishing paste I just cooked up.
The MAS 49/56 semi auto was as close to NIB as you'd want.
The Polish M-44 is almost as clean and nice as that AIM Russian M-44, still in wrap beauty,I got a couple weeks ago.
The Polish stock was stained with some kinda cheap looking reddish crud, but several applications of stain remover and a pint of mineral spirits, is slowly leaching it out and I think I'll have it near natural in about a week.
The wood is quality in VG+ condition. The bolt is pristine. Barrel stamped 1952.
Schuetzenman
02-04-2002, 11:09 AM
Originally posted by clearblue
Hoping the 8mm Mausers,Czech, Yugo,and Turk I ordered from Century,et.al., arrive today,they were shipped, they said, on the 26th.
Dying to compare my Swedes with them.
If I had the bucks to spare, I'd go for one of those unissued Persians from Samco.
But gotta save a reserve in case Arsenal/Global bust on the scene with a new version/model AK.
Clearblue,
there is no comparison. The Sweds are going to kick the 8 mm rifles asses for accuracy, recoil and pure shooting enjoyment. The only thing 8 mm Mausers excell at is cheap surplus ammo supplies. Just try to find a box of 6.5 Swedish ammo for under $10 bucks. 8 mm as you know is everywhere and less than 8 cents per round delivered most times.
clearblue
02-06-2002, 09:18 PM
Originally posted by Schuetzenman
Clearblue,
there is no comparison. The Sweds are going to kick the 8 mm rifles asses for accuracy, recoil and pure shooting enjoyment. The only thing 8 mm Mausers excell at is cheap surplus ammo supplies. Just try to find a box of 6.5 Swedish ammo for under $10 bucks. 8 mm as you know is everywhere and less than 8 cents per round delivered most times.
You said it perfectly!!! Thanks for the candid appraisal.
I can see now, I got thrown off track by those Swedes.
Is there any other Mauser that you know of that is of comparable quality as the Swede's.
I ordered 3 of the Turks from Century, kinda expecting to get one in excellent condition.
I paid them for Very good and I believe the warehouse pulled all three out of the fair pile.
Like I said in an earlier post, the wood is awful-No numbers match on any of the metal, and that is no joke.
The three dates are 1939/1943/1946
The cleanest is the 1939 and is also the only one with wood worth working hard enough on to salvage.
Those butt plates are simply unbelievable.
Am I missing something, what could possibly be the justification for putting a screw on the curved portion of the plate?
Oh, the 39 has all brass screws and the 43 and 46 all steel.
I think they all are shootable,as the bores have VG rifling.
The attention to detail was fair on the 39,pathetic on the 43 and fair on the 46.
All the butt plates look like they were brought out of the mold,dipped in water,given maybe a couple of sweeps on a bench grinder, then thrown in the pile.
The edges on the tops and bottom of the magazine wells,butt plate,and mag plate are very sharp and can cut easily.
I can see I'm never gonna be content with that butt plate. My plan is to grind of the top curved portion, bore a screw hole near the top and install it into the bottom of the stock.
I've gotta read up more on what was going on during that period and who was producing these guns, as their effort seems to be getting guns out as fast as possible,that would shoot and don't worry about finer points.
As a result of my eccentricities,or shall we say strong desire for quality,I'm leaning further and further towards purchasing only excellent grades in the future.
I think that 1939 is gonna grow on me when I get to shoot it.
These BLIND DATE guns are a bit shocking when your first see'um.
Schuetzenman
02-06-2002, 11:17 PM
On comperable quality Mausers only one that is really nice is a Persian from Samco in the top grade. Still an 8 mm but really beautiful rifles that are very well built.
Turks were all originally from Mauser Obendorf werks. But the Turks were masters of rework and butchery! ;) The Turks didn't have all this wierd stuff like brass screws and screws in the wrong places. But evidently Turkish armory personnel were like shade tree gunsmiths. Crude but functional comes to mind. You see some of the rifles with keepr springs for the barrel bands and others just have a freaking bolt going through the stock to hold them on. Swivels of all types located in several places.
Turks are like a box of choclates, you never know what you're going to get until you open the box and take a bite! LOL!:D
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