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zouavexx
02-10-2002, 11:30 PM
Look what these guys are doing to the Enfield!:eek: (I saw this posted across the street, and had too show you guys)

http://www.pyramid.net/sia/Enf-ScoutFolder.jpg

http://www.pyramid.net/sia/

Introducing the new Enfield "K" in 7.62x39!
By Special Interest Arms.

The classic #4 Enfield has been updated to shoot the inexpensive and accurate 7.62x39 cartridge!

The converted gun uses interchangeable 5 and 10 round single stack AK-47 magazines!

No modifications to the original Enfield reciever are required.

"K" for Kurtz *, the 7.62x39 round uses the same .311 diameter bullet as the original .303 British caliber, but with a lighter 125 gr. bullet, in a shorter cartridge case.

Ideal for youth, ladies and anyone else desiring a .30 cal. rifle with light recoil!

Inexpensive to shoot, plinking ammunition is typically only about $3-$5 a box!

Reloadable brass cased U.S. Manf. ammunition is readily available!

Reliable bolt action design, conserves on ammunition cost and promotes accuracy!

All Enfield #4 rifle accessories remain fully compatible with the new Enfield "K"!

The bolt action and heavier barrel appear to greatly enhance accuracy over that to be expected from
SKS or AK-47 type rifles!

Three standard types available!

1. Standard. Excellent condition Enfield #4 rifle rebuilt in 7.62x39, uses a modified original Enfield 24" barrel and sights with our AK magazine adaptation, and slightly shortened original fore stock. Only $225!

2. Sporter. Enfield #4 rifle rebuilt in 7.62x39 with a new 20 or 22 inch .311 bore American made air gauged match grade barrel, our AK magazine adaptation, and new synthetic sporter stock. Only $375!

3. No. 5 "Jungle Carbine". Modified excellent condition Enfield #4 rifle rebuilt in 7.62x39, using either a modified original Enfield barrel and sights, or a new match grade barrel.
With our AK magazine adaptation, and an original No. 4 stock modified to "Jungle Carbine" configuration, but with a standard No. 4 butt stock. Price to be determined.

4. Convert your gun. We will convert your existing gun to any of the above configurations for $100 less than our published sale price. We do not sell "Kits" for home conversion. This is a one way conversion, the finished gun will not be able to be readily returned to .303 B.

Custom guns available. We can build your gun with any of several special features, custom barrel length, upper barrel heat shields, muzzle brakes, flash hiders, special sights, custom stocks, etc.
Prices and delivery must be individually quoted on all custom guns!

Due to overwhelming customer feedback we are producing a "No. 5 Jungle Carbine" version as a standard model! Final Price and delivery are yet to be determined.

aliceinchains
02-11-2002, 12:06 AM
Yes zouave i see frankenstein is still at large.:(

Ezra Coli
02-11-2002, 12:49 AM
;puke:

My good and merciful Lord!!! :eek:

That's a crying shame. I guess its a bubba gun dee-lux.

Why do they think they need to go and ruin a perfectly good rifle like that? I'm not even an Enfield fan, but that's just wrong on soooo many levels.

;puke: ;puke: ;puke: ;puke:

srv656s
02-11-2002, 12:59 AM
I think it looks nifty. :P

Shawn

1 Patriot-of-many
02-11-2002, 02:14 AM
Wholly crap....That takes the medal from Hipoint for the ugliest carbine!!!!

Joker
02-11-2002, 05:30 AM
Wow, I never cried when looking at a rifle before. This is the first. :( Sad... just sad. lol

neilwest
02-11-2002, 06:23 AM
1. Tell me you aint serious, I see not #5 in future if you like that :eek:

Schuetzenman
02-11-2002, 06:58 AM
Yes, it's pretty revolting looking. Looks like a Platypus gun! (I wish the puke smiley worked!)

neilwest
02-11-2002, 07:46 AM
Originally posted by Schuetzenman
Yes, it's pretty revolting looking. Looks like a Platypus gun! (I wish the puke smiley worked!)


I couldnt have said it better, not only is your picture great but your comments made me LMAO:D

zouavexx
02-11-2002, 08:36 AM
LOL Neilwest.

Notice the name of this thread "Oh my eyes...the horror, the horror"

I am a guy who refuses too refinish my rifles, do you really think I like something that looks like this?

http://www.pyramid.net/sia/Enf-ScoutFolder.jpg
:eek:

Schuetzenman
02-11-2002, 09:49 AM
If they want to convert Enfields, why don't they freaking convert them to 7.62 X 54R? Now that would make sense.

Hey Zouave, did you get a chance to shoot the K31 this weekend?

NC_Rebel
02-11-2002, 10:30 AM
Originally posted by 1 Patriot-of-many
Wholly crap....That takes the medal from Hipoint for the ugliest carbine!!!! LMAO!!! I agree, 1 Pat. This hack job is a crying shame.

zouavexx
02-11-2002, 10:51 AM
Originally posted by Schuetzenman
Hey Zouave, did you get a chance to shoot the K31 this weekend?

No unfortunately. It started to pour half way to my Dads farm, and still hasn't stopped. Oh well we need the rain. :(

I was wondering, are the emptys going to pop me in the eye as I eject them left handed? The troubles of a southpaw...

srv656s
02-11-2002, 11:18 AM
Originally posted by zouave


No unfortunately. It started to pour half way to my Dads farm, and still hasn't stopped. Oh well we need the rain. :(

I was wondering, are the emptys going to pop me in the eye as I eject them left handed? The troubles of a southpaw...

I doubt it.

The ejection is pretty cool. The empty brass would come flying out, and would go flipping over my head, landing behind me. At one point, I fired the last round, and decided to point the rifle up a little so I could watch the brass come out.

It hit me in the face. :rolleyes:

Note to self: Don't be an idiot, and don't tell others how stupid you are

:D

Shawn

neilwest
02-11-2002, 12:53 PM
1. I forgive you then, I misunderstood, you may have a #5, Ill let you.:D ;)

308
02-11-2002, 01:04 PM
...I'm attracted to the foding stock option, especialy with the full length barrel...needs an AK muzzle break and a Tac Sling to complete the package.

Schuetzenman
02-11-2002, 02:23 PM
Originally posted by zouave


No unfortunately. It started to pour half way to my Dads farm, and still hasn't stopped. Oh well we need the rain. :(

I was wondering, are the emptys going to pop me in the eye as I eject them left handed? The troubles of a southpaw...

Shawn has given the answer. It ejects straight up and back. Don't do what Shawn did, never look into the opening on the top of the receiver while cycling out the spent round. It will whip it outa there really good! Ouch! :rolleyes:

It might put your eye out! And if you have eyes the size of mine, you especially want to watch out! :eek:

8dDUCE
02-11-2002, 03:15 PM
That things uglier than a sack full of assholes! Damn, how many beers went into that....... I am at a loss of words. I bet that guy used to FORCE the square pegs in the round holes, with a BIG ASS HAMMER, as a kid. Damn, damn, damn....did I say...what did I say, DAMN! Thats pretty ugly. 8dDUCE.

zouavexx
02-11-2002, 03:31 PM
Originally posted by 8dDUCE
That things uglier than a sack full of assholes!

So you don't like it? :)

8dDUCE
02-11-2002, 04:26 PM
Oh I like it, as much as a cat likes it's tail stretched. I personally do not like it, but that is my opinon. The guy who is making this weapon must feel different. That is his RIGHT, and I have nothing to do with his personal tastes, or lack there of. I wish him well on his aventures. 8dDUCE.

awp101
02-11-2002, 04:43 PM
How bizarre.

I thought I was having bad thoughts because I wanted to build a copy of the DeLilse carbine w/a fake supressor (don't want to fool w/CLIII:rolleyes: )

The latest SAR has an outfit doing the conversions and it doesn't look to be that difficult.

Having said that, I'm willing to bet at least two folks besides the manufacturer will buy those Enfields above, just because those are folders.

And everybody knows to be cool in "da hood" you gotta have a folder!:D

pro2nd
02-11-2002, 11:41 PM
If this is not a hoax they need to be slapped repeatedly who would destroy such a historical rifle

templar
04-01-2002, 11:32 PM
That is one blasphemous pice of shit.

:rolleyes: :rant: :rolleyes:

redice
04-02-2002, 12:14 AM
well only thing that would maybe make it look decent is remove the wood stock and replace it with a poly one with nice checkered grips or something.

pokey074
04-02-2002, 05:49 AM
call me crazy but i kind of like it...IF they would have left it in .303. replacing the wood with all polymer and it would look pretty bad-ass if you ask me.

PBR
04-02-2002, 06:11 AM
Somebody call a Cop.......

Schuetzenman
04-02-2002, 03:27 PM
Originally posted by pokey074
call me crazy but i kind of like it...IF they would have left it in .303. replacing the wood with all polymer and it would look pretty bad-ass if you ask me.

Pokey, it's built on an Ishapore Indian made 2A No. 1 Mk III in 7.62 Nato. These were originally Police rifles for the Indian Police Force. You can tell from the flat bottomed magazine, a .303 mag has the angle on the bottom instead of being parallel to the barrel as the 7.62 Nato mags are.

AJ Dual
04-02-2002, 03:47 PM
Actually...


With a matching polymer forend, the barrel cut and re-crowned to 20", keep it in the original Ishapore's 7.62/.308, and some other low magnification wide field of view optics scout mounted but closer to the action...

That might just be the ultimate trunk gun...

The Fourth Horseman
04-04-2002, 05:05 PM
http://www.pyramid.net/sia/Enf-ScoutFolder.jpg

I...AM NOT...AN ANIMALLLLL!!!!!!

:cryeyes: :cryeyes:

GCcowboy
04-04-2002, 05:48 PM
thats rifle got put in a vise and beaten with an ugly stick

but I concur that if it was all polymer, I might buy it...but its gonna stay in my trunk out of sight until I need to shoot something

Tracy
04-04-2002, 09:23 PM
:cryeyes: :cryeyes: That's just plain nasty!:cryeyes: :cryeyes:

RetVet
04-05-2002, 09:14 AM
Looks like a mouse and elephant #$@55ing a lizard. Hell of a place to mount a scope! The worst part of this contraption however, is the sporterized portion of the stock. That wood has been permanently ruined. I wouldn't mind having the butt stock on my AK though!

grady
04-29-2002, 04:45 PM
the end times must be coming! i never thought i would see an enfield i didnt like(if thats what you call that piece of shit).
the one thing that puzzles me????????? WHY NOT BUY A SKS!!!!!
i think i read that thing is 7.62x39.
i would hate to see what other hack jobs that place does,turn ak-47 into blackpowder.

pokey074
05-20-2002, 02:22 AM
x

GrinningGun
06-07-2002, 04:56 AM
Whats that about reduced recoil? I had and still have an enfield .303 that I hunted with when I was 10. I didn't relized that it kicked it just kinda seems to rock a little.

Not to mention weapons don't kick. They push! If it kicks your holding it wrong.;) Of course I remember that .30-30 knocking me down when I was 6 but it didn't hurt:p

Thats thing is sickening! :elbarfo:
Is there a gun smith in the house? Oh the humanity!
:whiner:

zouavexx
12-09-2003, 06:19 PM
nostalgia bump ;)

Gewehrnut
12-10-2003, 08:53 AM
Originally posted by 308
...I'm attracted to the foding stock option, especialy with the full length barrel...needs an AK muzzle break and a Tac Sling to complete the package.
The hell you say!:slap:

Gewehrnut
12-10-2003, 09:02 AM
From their little FAQ section:
Aren't you destroying valuable collector guns?
No, the guns we convert have little or no collector value. They are usually sourced from foreign military surplus, they have been "FTR" and then sold to third world countries by the shipload.
I have a personal collection of original Enfield's, if I ever get any collector grade guns I will set them aside and resell them as such.

elkydriver
12-10-2003, 11:33 AM
Originally posted by Gewehrnut
From their little FAQ section:
Aren't you destroying valuable collector guns?
No, the guns we convert have little or no collector value. They are usually sourced from foreign military surplus, they have been "FTR" and then sold to third world countries by the shipload.
.

even though they have been through FTR, there is still some collector value left in the rifles, just for being what they are. personally i see an FTR the same as a classic car that has been restored to like new condition. it may not be original, but if left in its original condition it may not be with us still either.

Polish Boy
12-10-2003, 06:19 PM
I think it is an ugly picture. Has anybody here shot the M48's converted to .45ACP those look like a cool little carbine.

smittylite
12-10-2003, 10:35 PM
Originally posted by 8dDUCE
That things uglier than a sack full of assholes!

LMAO. :lool: Wow, and I thought all along that I was the only one that had seen a sack full of assholes. :moon:

BTW, that is one sweet rifle ;)

survivor99
12-13-2003, 07:04 AM
I hardly see any Enfield left in that gun. I'm in agreement, they should have gone with an SKS and the nylon stock they build specifically for it. I think it would have looked a lot better.

Man, I can't believe anybody would ruin an Enfield though.

As far as kick goes, I can't believe there are big guys who whimper about a little felt kick. I love a kicker, it makes me feel like I have a real gun in my hands. My wife shoots Mausers and Mosins, and owns a Steyr M95. If they don't kick, then nothing else does either.

survivor99

powerkicker
12-13-2003, 08:19 PM
To be truly tactical,this piece still needs a coat of black bed-liner:D

KThirtyOne
12-16-2003, 09:18 AM
I like it because the GFWs ( Gun Fearing Wussies - credit to Kim Dutoit ) of my socialist paradise state would think that it's an evil assault weapon.

Guinny_Ire
12-16-2003, 01:37 PM
Junk

Flinter
06-17-2006, 11:30 PM
What amazes me is.........someone right now is saving money up and dreaming about owning that rifle.

Rifles are like women, no matter how ugly they are someone out there wants them.

herrulrich
06-18-2006, 12:26 AM
:elbarfo:

mrkalashnikov
06-18-2006, 12:57 PM
Another old GN thread back from the dead. I must admit, that "Enfield" is one of the finest examples of Mr Bubba's handiwork I have ever witnessed. :censored: :eek:

GunGuy98
06-24-2006, 11:14 AM
That is just wrong!

gunnutz
07-14-2006, 11:15 PM
But, But, Why? I'm Dumbfounded! Why convert a MBR into a brush gun? It looks kina cool, I guess, but personally I can't see why. To each his own.

jpglee1
07-15-2006, 06:58 PM
...I'm attracted to the foding stock option, especialy with the full length barrel...needs an AK muzzle break and a Tac Sling to complete the package.

+1


would be cool in 16" barrel for a truck gun, if it was cheap.


J

fhovatter
07-27-2006, 09:00 PM
Butt Ugly!!!

ninner
08-02-2006, 09:45 PM
If only I were on the A-team

Browning 35
09-03-2006, 09:40 PM
It was probably a nice rifle before they got a hold of it.

roadhog481
09-27-2006, 01:29 PM
I can say that I have seen worse. to an 03 at that

moebrown20
09-27-2006, 01:39 PM
It looks like they just cut 2 guns & put them together.

NRAJOE
10-01-2006, 03:50 PM
:elbarfo:

micmacman
10-01-2006, 04:42 PM
well this thread is how old? 4 years? and i havnt ever seen anything like it,so i suppose they didnt go over to well on the market,lol

MIKE OWENS
10-16-2006, 08:23 PM
:censored:

CornCod
11-28-2006, 10:23 PM
I love my Jungle Carbine, but would love to be able to shoot it more. I would prefer a plain conversion to 7.62X39 rather than all that fancy stuff. Because of the ridiculous cost of .303 British I am able only to shoot it once every couple of years, almost like a little ceremony.

Rev Rob
11-29-2006, 09:46 PM
even though they have been through FTR, there is still some collector value left in the rifles, just for being what they are. personally i see an FTR the same as a classic car that has been restored to like new condition. it may not be original, but if left in its original condition it may not be with us still either.

Indeed! How do we define collector value?

Enfields are a perfect example.
Some like the new in the wrapper Enfields. They are pristine. However others may say they have absolutly no historical value having seen nothing more than a shelf in its life.

Some may prefer an obviously used no4 that may have seen the beaches of Normandy or the Bridges of Market Garden. However another may scoff at its miscolored stock and mismatched bolt.

Even the obvious price of a rare Enfield, like a no6? Do I want a gun I should probably never shoot? Or who cares man its a catch of a lifetime?

FTR means it was referbished by the folks who probably put it together in the first place. It may not be as pretty a vergin in a brown wrapper. But its probably got more stories to tell and probably works.

To each thier own. This poor thing in some other guns clothes seems to me to have no merit? Except to be rescued!