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zouavexx
02-24-2002, 12:39 PM
Here are some pictures of my Fazakerley No. 5 Mk. 1. It was made in April 1945 possibly for the Invasion of Japan. It has the Lightening cuts and fluted barrel.
http://bally.fortunecity.com/coalbrook/243/19090940.jpg
http://bally.fortunecity.com/coalbrook/243/18e90e90.jpg
http://bally.fortunecity.com/coalbrook/243/18d90fa0.jpg
zouavexx
02-24-2002, 12:41 PM
No. 5 “Jungle Carbine”
Overall length 39-1/2 inches; 20-1/2 inch barrel with flash hider. Rubber buttplate; short fore-end.
An honest No. 5 rifle (or “Jungle Carbine”) has lightening flutes cut in the barrel knox form and extensive milling done to the receiver to lighten it. (Take the handguard off and look for the barrel flutes.) Also, an honest No. 5 will be electro-engraved “No5MKI” on the left side of the receiver and will not have “No. 4” stamped or engraved anywhere on it. In addition, an honest No. 5 will bear the proper manufacturer’s code: “(ROF)F” for Fazakerley or “M47C” for BSA-Shirley. Finally, the barrel band will be only 8 inches in front of the receiver ring--rather than 10-3/4 inches as on a No. 4 rifle.
In the 1950s and 1960s, Golden State Arms Co. of Pasadena, California modified quite a few No. 4 rifles by shortening the barrels, adding flash hiders, and shortening the fore-ends. Some were equipped with Fajen or Bishop sporter stocks, as well. These were called various names, such as “No. 4 Jungle Carbine,” or “Santa Fe Mountain Carbine,” or “Mountain Rifle,” but all have “Golden State Arms” and “Santa Fe” roll-stamped on the barrel. Nice aftermarket conversions, but strictly that.
Currently, Navy Arms is doing the same thing with No. 4 rifles and selling them as “No. 5 Jungle Carbines.” At arm’s length they look genuine, but they have standard No. 4 rifle markings and DO NOT have the lightening flutes on the barrel or the lightening cuts on the receiver. These are strictly fakes--or thinly disguised “replicas.”
http://www.uidaho.edu/~stratton/en-page/fakes.htm
neilwest
02-26-2002, 04:39 PM
1. Damn you got a nice collection of Enfields, they rival mine, you sly old dog. Where did you get them?:p
zouavexx
02-26-2002, 06:21 PM
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The guy is an old crusty sailor like Misguided and Redstar. Yeah he is gruff and and is as as cunning as an arab trader, but I still am proud to call him my friend...
neilwest
02-26-2002, 07:23 PM
1. AKKKKKKKKKKK!!!.
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