Schmidt-Ruben pics here . . . maybe.

[Schuetzenman]

Swiss rifle with matching serial numbered bayonet.

[Schuetzenman]

Another view.

[Schuetzenman]

More.

[Schuetzenman]

Underside view with cartridge box.

[Schuetzenman]

A collection of Swiss ammo for the Schmidt Rubens. Left to right: 10 round box of Swiss match ammo, 1910 paper pached round nose, 1923 round nosed bullet with wax lubrication at neck, wooden blank bullets from 1936, all plastic blanks from 1956.

[Schuetzenman]

Top down view of the 4 types of rounds in stripper clips. Notice the wood block in the special strippers built just for the blank rounds as a spacer.

[Schuetzenman]

Close up of Swiss Match ammo. Notice the wax lubricant on the neck. It looks just like the GP-11 military ammo imported and for sale through AIM. Head stamp is 1994.

[NC_Rebel]

That thing is beautiful. Schuetz, do you intend to keep this one locked away or will you shoot it?

[zouavexx]

:mad:

[PBR]

Outstanding photos.
Do you have the water damage on the buttstock ?

[srv656s]

Here's the pics! I can post any of them, but I thought these were the coolest.

http://www.student.smsu.edu/s/srv656s/swiss0.jpg

http://www.student.smsu.edu/s/srv656s/swiss1.jpg

http://www.student.smsu.edu/s/srv656s/swiss2.jpg

Shawn

[srv656s]

Some more:

http://www.student.smsu.edu/s/srv656s/swiss4.jpg

http://www.student.smsu.edu/s/srv656s/swiss3.jpg

Shawn

[Schuetzenman]

Thanks Shawn, now the others can see the stuff and the rifle.

The pic above of the cartridges in the stripper clips is decoded by this information. Working left to right: Top down view of the 4 types of rounds in stripper clips. 1910 paper pached round nose, 1923 round nosed bullet with wax lubrication at neck, (wax mostly worn away), wooden blank bullets from 1936, all plastic blanks from 1956.


Notice the wood blocks in the special strippers built just for the blank rounds. It acts as a spacer to keep them from shifting forward in the clips.

[Schuetzenman]

Originally posted by redneck whitesox PBR
Outstanding photos.
Do you have the water damage on the buttstock ?

No not that I can see. As you can tell the walnut stock is very dark. It does have what look like the hobnailed boot bumps on it down at the buttplate but no water damage like the Beechwood stocks seem to show. Gotta love that fiddle back striping in the wood. The little whimpy flash of the camera doesn't light it up so good. Someday I'll do better pics.

[Schuetzenman]

Originally posted by NC_Rebel
That thing is beautiful. Schuetz, do you intend to keep this one locked away or will you shoot it?

Well NC_Rebel I was probably not going to shoot it too much but now I probably will.

There's a sad side to this tale. I shot the rifle in Switzerland and the store owner said he'd clean the bore for me as we all went off to eat horse steaks at a local eatery. Looks like he forgot to clean the bore. I looked in it and it didn't look so hot. The first patch came out and the fate of the bore was all too clear. Brown rust, lots of rust. It didn't clean up until after I brushed it and then JB Bore pasted it. Used copper remover cleaner by Tettra Gun too. It's bright surpriseingly but there are numerous pitts in the grooves, but not on the lands in the middle of the barrel. SHIT! It's no abused Turk or anything but it isn't the crisp prisitine bore I had the day I bought the rifle. :cryeyes: :cryeyes: :cryeyes:

Well maybe they are more stain than pit. It doesn't feel rough with a tight patch but I can see them. So, maybe shooting it will iron it out and slick it back up. Clearly if the ammo itself was corrosive there wouldn't have been anything left of the rifling. I wonder of the funky beeswax lube on the bullets held moisture to a degree? Looks like theres a reason to clean after shooting GP-11's after all despite not having corrosive priming.

[zouavexx]

NICE! do I see some tiger striping on the wood?


Thanks for posting those pictures for me Shawn!

[Schuetzenman]

Originally posted by zouave
NICE! do I see some tiger striping on the wood?


Thanks for posting those pictures for me Shawn!

Yes there is tiger stripe which in Walnut terms is proper called fiddleback. Oh and it has a little burl in the middle of the buttstock coming up from the buttplate toward the muzzle.

Hey Shawn buddy post the underside 3/4 length view with the cartridge box and bayonet. The tiger stripe shows pretty good in that view.;)

[srv656s]

http://www.student.smsu.edu/s/srv656s/swiss5.jpg

[Schuetzenman]

Originally posted by srv656s
http://www.student.smsu.edu/s/srv656s/swiss5.jpg

Yep that's the one, thanks Shawn. The pics just don't do the stock justice. I'll have to take pics on a sunny day for more even light. BTW people I got 4 of those 2 cell cartridge boxes with the rifle. They hold 24 rounds fully loaded.

[srv656s]

Very nice gun!

Shawn

[srv656s]

Are you sellling anything you got? I didn't post all the pics, but there were some of stripper clips, slings, etc. My roommate is looking for a sling and I am looking for some of those leather ammo pouches.

Shawn

[Schuetzenman]

Originally posted by srv656s
Are you sellling anything you got? I didn't post all the pics, but there were some of stripper clips, slings, etc. My roommate is looking for a sling and I am looking for some of those leather ammo pouches.

Shawn

No man nothing is for sale as it would be splitting up history. Oh the things you think are slings are straps for securing gear to the fury pack. Looks like the 4 mag pouches mean they had a full load-out of ammo at 96 rounds.

Maybe I can get something going on slings. I'm still working on bayonets. They say they have about 20 already and are trying to get up to 30 before they are ready to ship. Also trying to get the strippers in. They consider them almost junk. LOL!

[srv656s]

I would be in for 2 bayos, and my roommate probably would be too. I don't think you would have any trouble moving bayos or strippers. I would buy em up from you myself. You know how I can be ;)

Shawn

[Schuetzenman]

Originally posted by srv656s
I would be in for 2 bayos, and my roommate probably would be too. I don't think you would have any trouble moving bayos or strippers. I would buy em up from you myself. You know how I can be ;)

Shawn

Like I've posted in the past this forums regulars that have the rifles will get first dibs on any Swiss Stuff I get in.:D

[Schuetzenman]

Here are the two Swiss bayonets I own at present. The 1918 bayonet is the one that goes to this rifle. The scabard is just about 100% perfect. The leather frog is in Excellent shape too.

The Pioneer Bayonet was given to me by a Swiss guy that used it to dig roots in his garden. He found out I liked stuff like this and he just gave it to me! About everybody I met there was very friendly especially when they learned I liked firearms. I guess they get too many liberal Soccer Mom antigun types as visitors so when they get a person from anywhere that thinks gun ownership is great they really put out the welcome mat. :cool:

http://album.gunsnet.net/data/schuetzenm/full_60_p701.jpg (http://)

[1 Patriot-of-many]

Did you get to shoot their F/A stuff???(SIG 550? is it?)
That would be the ultimate vacation in my book to swiss land!

[PBR]

Shuetz buy one of those Swiss cleaning kits from TAPCO
and use the grease method of cleaning. Use the grease brush in a warm bore and just leave it for a week or so.

Then run 1 patch through it then the bronze brush a couple of times then patches until it is clean. This is the method used by the Swiss and i am convinced it is why these bores are so nice after 50 or so years of shooting. The Swiss kits also have bronze
bushings on the rod sections to keep muzzle wear from happening. TAPCO $5

[neilwest]

1. NOW WHERES MY K-31 BAYONETT? Lets get cracking buddy:D

[Schuetzenman]

Originally posted by 1 Patriot-of-many
Did you get to shoot their F/A stuff???(SIG 550? is it?)
That would be the ultimate vacation in my book to swiss land!

Nope, did'nt shoot a Sig 550 full auto or even semiauto. There was a guy there with his rifle, he was young enough I assume it was still FA capable. It's just a different looking .223 burner. ;)

Wouldn't mind having one. Oh, I did shoot a STGw57 in the 7.5 Swiss round. 24 rounds slick as you please in semiauto mode. Very mild recoil, very accurate, I'd love one. Can't get them in to the country naturally!:rolleyes: :mad:

[whos2kno]

I don't know if someone asked this question but did they have to put a import stamp on it?
whos2kno

[Schuetzenman]

Originally posted by whos2kno
I don't know if someone asked this question but did they have to put a import stamp on it?
whos2kno

Yes it's actually the law that it must be marked. I just haven't found it yet LOL! It definitely isn't on the barrel outside the handguards. I'm eventually taking them off to look for it, but too busy at the moment. BTW did I mention the name tag is under buttplate?:cool:

[whos2kno]

thanks for the reply
so what does the name tag say?
whos2kno

[Schuetzenman]

Originally posted by whos2kno
thanks for the reply
so what does the name tag say?
whos2kno

Well it has the guys name on it, his street house number and the city. I didn't copy it down but I know the guys name it's Martin Sigg.

[clearblue]

Originally posted by redneck whitesox PBR
Shuetz buy one of those Swiss cleaning kits from TAPCO
and use the grease method of cleaning. Use the grease brush in a warm bore and just leave it for a week or so.

Then run 1 patch through it then the bronze brush a couple of times then patches until it is clean. This is the method used by the Swiss and i am convinced it is why these bores are so nice after 50 or so years of shooting. The Swiss kits also have bronze
bushings on the rod sections to keep muzzle wear from happening. TAPCO $5

I read your post Redneck and went straightaway to Cheaper than Dirt and ordered 4 of those Swiss cleaning kits @ $3.97 each.

How did you come across that Swiss method of "grease cleaning" on a warm bore? It sounds logical

These two K-31's I've received have bores like the Swede Mausers, mirror with like new lands & grooves.

I'm wondering if the Swedes used that grease cleaning tek, same as the Swiss?

[Schuetzenman]

^

[Schuetzenman]

Update, Yesterday I got to shoot this K31 and it shot great! Didn't have a chance to get it on paper, but no clay pigeons or bowling pins were safe from it using GP-11's. They truely are the finest bolt gun ever made IMO. Love those straight pull bolts!:D