View Full Version : Removing barrel band on M-48A ???
BlackBore
04-15-2002, 01:36 PM
I searched the archives high and low , but couldn't find anything that answers my question : Do you have to remove the small pin that is on the right side of the front barrel band ? If you do , how do you remove it ? Thanks.
Blackbore:)
Schuetzenman
04-15-2002, 03:10 PM
The pin is the end of the barrel band retaining spring. To remove the band the spring has to be compressed until it clears the hole in the band. Then the band should be easily removed with some tapping with a rubber faced hammer or a bit of paint stirring stick to use as a punch to drive it off with small tapps from a hammer.
srv656s
04-15-2002, 03:52 PM
Schuetz has made a mistake by using the word "easy" within his response. THis is not an easy task. I have never shot my M48A because I have never been able to dissassemble it.
Shawn
Schuetzenman
04-15-2002, 09:51 PM
Originally posted by srv656s
Schuetz has made a mistake by using the word "easy" within his response. THis is not an easy task. I have never shot my M48A because I have never been able to dissassemble it.
Shawn
:eek: Holly Crap! You still haven't taken it apart and shot it after all these months!?! Didn't I give you this very same advise in a thread almost 8 months ago?:p
Tracy
04-15-2002, 11:12 PM
I pulled my Turk apart pretty easily, but the M48A was in such good shape that I was scared to try to pull of the front band (actually I did give an anemic effort). I didn't want to beat up the gun and my wife hates to see a grown man cry. :cryeyes:
srv656s
04-15-2002, 11:42 PM
Originally posted by Tracy
I pulled my Turk apart pretty easily, but the M48A was in such good shape that I was scared to try to pull of the front band (actually I did give an anemic effort). I didn't want to beat up the gun and my wife hates to see a grown man cry. :cryeyes:
Exactly.
I tried once, but i slipped and put a very very slight dent in the wood (more like a small impression). I wept for days, and was inconsolable. I am afraid to touch her. She is gorgeous, and I just know she deserves better than me.
:(
Shawn
Schuetzenman
04-16-2002, 09:36 AM
Originally posted by srv656s
Exactly.
I tried once, but i slipped and put a very very slight dent in the wood (more like a small impression). I wept for days, and was inconsolable. I am afraid to touch her. She is gorgeous, and I just know she deserves better than me.
:(
Shawn
Well heck . . . just send her over to me casue I know I'm good enough for her!
:p ;) :D
trotsky
04-16-2002, 08:38 PM
This CAN be easy....
Go get a C clamp. pad the side that is opposite the pin. Crank down on the spring in BACK of the pin, insuring that you are NOT putting force on the band anywhear else... You should see the pin sink BELOW the band.
Once the pin is depressed, use WOOD (nothing else) to tap the band forward and off. I've done this with two different M48's.
Tracy
04-16-2002, 09:49 PM
Originally posted by srv656s
Exactly.
I tried once, but i slipped and put a very very slight dent in the wood (more like a small impression). I wept for days, and was inconsolable. I am afraid to touch her. She is gorgeous, and I just know she deserves better than me.
:(
Shawn
I'm with ya' buddy. Maybe Schuetzenman can stop by our houses on one of his shooting expeditions and give us some pointers. We're only a few hundred miles away. :p
Tracy
04-16-2002, 09:52 PM
Originally posted by trotsky
This CAN be easy....
Go get a C clamp. pad the side that is opposite the pin. Crank down on the spring in BACK of the pin, insuring that you are NOT putting force on the band anywhear else... You should see the pin sink BELOW the band.
Once the pin is depressed, use WOOD (nothing else) to tap the band forward and off. I've done this with two different M48's.
Okay, you talked me into it. Send me your gun and I'll practice on it. :D :D
pinetop
04-22-2002, 01:09 PM
I had the same question. I wanted to get after the cosmo and clean it. Still haven't removed the band. I can't get the spring to compress and I am really afraid of damaging the wood or scratching the blue.
Schuetzenman
04-22-2002, 03:38 PM
:rolleyes: Geeze . . . you guys are amazingly timid! First thing to do is get that front band by the muzzle off. That's the one with the pin in it. You have to depress that pin. Try a brass punch on the pin use a hammer to try and drive it down out of the hole. If you want to make it as easy as possible heat the band, stock and band keeper spring with a blow dryer until it's good and hot. If there is any cosmoline under it (the spring) it will be softened to a near liquid state. So as you compress the pin of the spring out of the front band expect to possibly see cosmoline squish up out of the slot the spring sits in.
Then do the tapping removal thing with a bit of wood that I've already put up in an earlier post on this thread. I just went over this with AKDUDE at the range Sunday as he as a very minty Yugo 48 rework with a 100% nib barrel and 100% bluing. Very sweat rifle. I got to shoot it with that Interordnance 8 mm steel cased ammo and I swear with a scope it would probably do 1.5 MOA maybe a bit better. Sweeeeeeeeeeeeet!:D
pinetop
04-24-2002, 04:30 PM
I did it !
"I know it wasn't a big deal"
Used a c-clamp, two paint sticks, a chopstick, a hammer, and a rag.
Now how do I get the handguard off the barrel ?
Schuetzenman
04-24-2002, 04:47 PM
Originally posted by pinetop
I did it !
"I know it wasn't a big deal"
Used a c-clamp, two paint sticks, a chopstick, a hammer, and a rag.
Now how do I get the handguard off the barrel ?
Congrats. Have you got the rear band off yet? If I remember correctly you can just slide the band keeper spring out of the slot once the front band is off. Then tapp the rear band forward until it is clear and remove it from the barrel.
Then just lift off the top handguard. It just sits on the stock and is held on by means of the barrel bands.
Now it might seem like it's attached, but that's probably just the cosmoline gluing it to the barrel. Once again the blow dryer can come in handy to heat the barrel and soften the cosmoline to make it easier to lift off the handguard. Same thing often happens in the trigger guard / magwell. Cosmoline can really stick that unit in place. Heat and removal is much easier.:D
P.Wheatstraw
05-06-2002, 07:31 PM
Sorry to bring this thread back to life, but my head is about to explode. I cannot get the front barrel band off. I have tried everything suggested here. I have searched the internet. I cannot get it off. I have already pretty much screwed up the wood near the front band beyond repair and it still will not budge. I worked on it for four hours today, only that part, and it is not one bit looser. I can see that using the clamp lowers the pin enough so that the band should come off, but it does not. I have poured hot water on it, heated it with a blow dryer, and poured mineral spirits on/around it to get rid of the cosmoline, but that still does not make a difference. I cannot disassemble the rifle any more until I can get this done. I am very close to taking a blowtorch to this while entertaining the neighborhood whith my colerful ranting*. I beseech anyone for any help, hints, or suggestions. Please don't let this make me cry**. Thanks.
*I have already done this
**I have already cried
trotsky
05-06-2002, 08:02 PM
hmmmm - rusted on? How does it "feel" - does it feel like it's stuck to the wood, or to metal? Compress that spring & try to wiggle the band a bit...
Either way, it could be time to try to heat it with a propane torch - try to not "smoke" the wood. Heat will make it expand, and might end your ordeal...
P.Wheatstraw
05-06-2002, 10:56 PM
It feels more like it is stuck to the metal part. I'm also very leery of going at this using fire. Fire and me usually do not cooperate very well.
Schuetzenman
05-07-2002, 07:00 AM
Do you have a brass punch and a hammer? if so with the C clamp depressing the pin unitl it's clear of the hole in the band you will have to use a hammer and the punch to drive the band off the barrel. Never heard of a band rusted to a barrel but I suppose there's always a first time.
If the pin is REALLY out of the hole there is nothing else to hold the band on except friction of the wood and barrel to the band.
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