Reciever Types/Clarification

[China Sports]

Reciever Types:

Stamped - These recievers are used in the AKM and AK-74 series of arms. The reciever is produced of stamped sheet metal which is bent into shape and has a front and rear trunion used to hold the stock and the barrel assembly.

Milled - These recievers were the original type used for manufacture of the AK-47. Milled from a 4 lb block of steel, they turned out as a solid reciever. There are no rivets in these weapons.

Manufacturers:

Poly Technologies - These recievers were both in Stamped and Milled form. Polytech produced the Legend series of arms. Pre ban AKs with milled recievers. These weapons were designated AK-47/S. They produced stamped reciever weapons which went with the stamping AKS-762.

Norinco - These recievers were made by the Northern Industries Corporation. Contrary to popular belief, these weapons were heat treated perfectly and both PolyTech and Norinco weapons will last a LONG time. Norinco manufactured also both milled and stamped recievers. Their stamped reciever weapons went by a number of different designations, a common one being AKM 47/S. All milled norinco's I've seen have been post ban MAK-91 guns.

B-West - BWest imported weapons as well as manufactured weapons from parts kits. Their imported weapons are perfectly made as they're Norinco or other chinese arsenal weapons. Their recievers are ones to avoid. They didn't heat treat the guide rails in the reciever, causing much deformation after as little as 2000 rounds. Be sure you're looking at a B-West import and not B-West manufactured gun before you buy.


Any other questions, feel free to ask!

[Templarx]

I just aquired a pre-ban "Prochine" rifle. I am fairly knowledgeable about the Chinese rifles, but I'd like to know a little about it. It is not marked Norinco or Polytech any where on the rifle itself, and it didn't come with a manual.

It is a stamped receiver marked on the left side:

PROCHINE CORP

AKS-47 7.62x39mm
MADE IN CHINA

SHERWOOD INT'L EXPORT CORP

NORTHRI DE.CA

serial # 87057**

It is a full wooden stock version.

Any help would be appreciated, thanks.

Since all the Chinese rifles were produced under State control at the State factories, I'm sure it is related to Norinco some how, but I was wondering if you have any further info.

[Templarx]

BTT

[China Sports]

Yep, correct. It's related to Norinco's larger company, China Sports. China Sports controls most government arsenals in china, and Norinco is included in these companies controled. If you need any other info, lemme know.

~CS

[Templarx]

Thanks CS.

[Packrat]

CS, I have a NIB Norinco MAK-90 milled. It was imported in '94, and was purchased just after the Chinese ban. It looks much like my earlier, stamped MAK-90, but has a very dark brown stain on the wood. (The wood, in a couple of places where the stain is rubbed away, is very light color.) It came with 3 5 rnd magazines, and the usual accessories. I'm keeping it until my older MAK90 wears out.

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Packrat

[Aks]

Packrat,

How much would you say your Milled MAK90 is worth? I ended up purchasing a MAK90 that was advertised as "milled" in the classifies section for $410. I was dissapointed when it turned out to be a mistake and was a stamped MAK90 in mint condition. Since it was a long road trip, I decided to pick it up anyways...but if it was a "milled" MAK90, how much would it be worth?

Anyone selling one?

[bruce]

Maybe CS would comment on this, but the milled-stamped difference is highly over rated. A proper stamped receiver is 99% as good as a milled one, just lighter. The milled ones were brought back into production only because of demand in the USA because of the perception they were better, when they really aren't. Just remember, the Russians haven't made a milled AK since the late '50's. Millions on stamped AK's have been made -how can this mean they are inferior?

[tyrex]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by China Sports:
[b]Reciever Types:


B-West - BWest imported weapons as well as manufactured weapons from parts kits. Their imported weapons are perfectly made as they're Norinco or other chinese arsenal weapons. Their recievers are ones to avoid. They didn't heat treat the guide rails in the reciever, causing much deformation after as little as 2000 rounds. Be sure you're looking at a B-West import and not B-West manufactured gun before you buy.

How do you make sure that the rifle is whole import?
Is there a way to find out if the AK47S has the receiver made by B.West or it is whole chinese rifle which was only imported by B.West? Are there specific markings like Made in USA? or made by B.West? or anything else that would give the answer?

[CAMPYBOB]

bruce, agree wiyh you. i own stamped and milled, both work fine and holding up well. just about 1lb. weight difference. even the maadi's are aging just fine, no cracks or deformed rail. if stamped is good enough for m.t.k., it's good enough for me!

[China Sports]

B-west guns are marked "Made in USA". You can actually spot weld in chinese made guide rails into the gun and they should last you a long time. the deformation was from non treated bolt guide rails.

[JA]

The B-west rifle a friend bought for parts at a gunshow several years ago had oval shaped rivet holes. The front and rear trunion rivets holes had elongated after 1/2 case of ammo. You could grab the stock and forend and move both in the receiver. The bolt could be removed after pulling the carrier back 2". On that rifle the whole receiver was soft including the rails.

[heavymetal]

China Sports, do you have any info on Preban RPK's? About how many were inported into the USA ? I bought it from a friend years ago and the dealer told him only about 500 were brought in. I only have seen 1 other one at all the gun shows I have went to all these years. It is stamped AK47S 7.62x39mm and under that, Made In China. It has the RPK stocks, bipod and flash hider. Is this Norinco, Clayco or B-West? Thanks for any info.

[China Sports]

Re: the RPK all I know is its chinese. Clayco isnt a manufacturer, only an importer, and its not manufactured by B-West if it says Made in China. I'm still waiting for reply from a contact norinco on import numbers for RPK rifles.

[Eclipse]

Are any of the BWEST imported rifles in either .223 or 7.62x39 preban (made or imported before 1989?

[Azalin]

Will BWEST guns have the triangle with the 66 in it? Or any markings that say 56S?

Wayne?

[China Sports]

B-West imported weapons will either be designated as a 56S type rifle, or an AKM/47S. Hope that helps.

~CS

[Azalin]

What I ment was will a BWEST manufactored receiver have the triangle with the 66 or any 56S markings?

Wayne

[neverenuf]

Have a B-West imported ak. on the receiver is marked AKS-7.62X39mm mfg by norinco 386. in front of the mag well is stamped B-West LA CA China.

[locutus126]

CS, do you know where I can find a cheap normal stock for my MAK ? It has underfolder receiver with no slot for the stocks tang block...