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Carbine15
06-16-1999, 12:20 AM
I noticed on the barrel of a Romak 1 that i was looking at had what the dealer refered to as a thread protector. Can i remove it?

If i remove that and get a gunsmith to pin on a muzzle break would it be legal?

And how would a remove it?

TinMan99
06-16-1999, 11:25 AM
There's a tack-weld on some part of the thread protector connecting it to the barrel. A Dremel tool will make very quick work of it. It comes right off after that. You can get a muzzle-brake of your choice, just make sure you get one for the 14:1 left-hand twist. Using ThreadLoc's, Blue-formula thread adhesive, thread your muzzle brake on all the way. If you want to make it a permanent attachment, use ThreadLoc's, Red-formula adhesive. It can't come off unless the metal is heated to over 400-degrees using the red-formula. I wouldn't worry about getting a gunsmith to pin it on for you, since they're just as likely to use ThreadLoc Red to do the job rather than bother sweat-welding, since they can easily get the brake lined up properly and you'll never be able to take it off, even with tools. Blue formula lets you remove the brake with a little leverage from a good set of tools. I've never seen the BATF show up at a gun range and inspect people's AK's, even if they did, they couldn't take it off in the field. I'd go that route, that way you can change muzzle brakes or put a flash-suppressor on it if they repeal the stupid feature bans.

TinMan99

Carbine15
06-16-1999, 03:28 PM
Thanks

AFX
06-17-1999, 12:47 AM
Carbine15,

I too have a Romak-1 among others - but no Romak I've ever seen has threads under the "protector" that they come with. If yours is threaded, I envy you. However, I think what you'll find is that there are no threads after all.

If you want to convert it to a threaded barrel, you can get a "thread adaptor" which will attach to your rifle via a set of four screws, and provide you with the 14:1L threading for acessories.

Now here's my question for the knowledgable:

If one were to attach a thread adaptor as meantioned above, and then tack weld it in place, and then either tack weld or ThreadLoc (RED) whatever muzzle brake in place as well, would that be considered legal?

TinMan99
06-17-1999, 11:31 AM
No, it wouldn't be legal if you tac-weld the thread adapter to the barrel. The law forbids a threaded barrel and it could be considered threading the barrel if the thread adapter were permanently affixed to the barrel. Instead, notch the barrel where the hex-screws fasten to the barrel itself and use the ThreadLoc blue-formula on the screw's threads, this will give you a solid but not permanent threading for your barrel and thus not technically a 'threaded-barrel' since you have not made a permanent change to the rifle's barrel. Weird laws we got, huh?

TinMan99

AFX
06-17-1999, 07:52 PM
I see - ok I like that better! I assume I would have to remove the adaptor when transporting the rifle right? Better than nothing I guess.

In your opinion: I have several muzzle brakes (Krinkov, type 74, slant). Could I buy three adaptors, one for each, and then permanently attach the brakes to the adaptors, changing them via the adaptor screws and still not get thrown in Jail if I happen to get caught with it? Or does that entail some unknown ilegal modification. Christ.

I don't much care for pin on brakes because I haven't seen krinkov ones and they are a pain anyway - I'm just looking for a way to have a legally changeable break, and a solid way to attach it to my rifle.

Thanks.

06-17-1999, 10:54 PM
Loc tite is illegal the law sez weld or hi temp silver soilder. If you remove the muzzle nut and put a muzzle brake on then spot weld it your legal.
My Romanien rifle has 14x1mm left hand threads on the barrel. It has WUM-1 stamped on the rear sight block. It was imported by Intrac Knox.TN

TinMan99
06-19-1999, 02:11 AM
So long as you don't permanently affix them to the rifle, you should be okay. Red formula loc tite might be illegal, but the only way they're going to be able to prove it is to heat it up to the needed temperature and open it up if they can. How many times has this ever happened? What BATF agent is going to try to heat off the muzzle-brakes of rifles in the field? If you really feel the urge to do it, take it to a gunsmith after evaluating which muzzle brake you like the most and have him sweat-weld it for you. Should cost you 20-bucks for a pre-threaded barrel for them to do that for you. Like I said, weird laws we got... :P

TinMan99