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Albert
09-10-1999, 05:55 PM
I'm interested in building a Krinkov using a US receiver from Soupbowl and a parts kit from K-Var in 5.45 x 39. Is this legal? I assume that I cannot have a buttstock (folding or otherwise) or this would be an illegal short barelled rifle. If I'm wrong, let me know. If I'm correct, however, can I build it without a buttstock and have a legal "pistol" like the HK SP-89 or the AR pistol variants? I also assume that I have to comply with the fewer than 10 foreign parts regulation. Before I spend my money to build something I'm not supposed to, I'd appreciate hearing from those in the know out there. Albert.

Turbinator
09-10-1999, 10:26 PM
I'm no expert, but I believe a pistol must not exceed a certain weight. Might be 50 oz. I'm not sure. I think this is a relatively new law- might have been passed with the 1994 Crime Bill.

Turbinator

Albert
09-14-1999, 10:04 PM
Thanks, I received confirmation that it has to weigh less than 50 oz. or have a permanently attached magazine which does not seem workable. Oh well, there goes that dream. If anyone out there knows how to do this legally, let me know, before it's too late for me to buy another AK receiver in California.

Destroyer
09-15-1999, 10:27 PM
Sure would be cool if we could get AK pistoles (since they've already banned steel core ammo). You could pay the tax and put a buttstock on it. Would look more like a real Krinkov that way but would be more expensive (and a hassle).

56s
09-15-1999, 10:55 PM
Hello,
Yes you can build a "Short Barreled Rifle".

You would need to register it with the Feds and pay the tax stamp.

Check with your local Class II or III dealer.

Here in Vegas you can buy an short AK with a barrel of 10, 12, 13 inches and so on barrel for $875.00 plus the tax stamp.

Good luck, OUT in Vegas!

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56s-2

Bryant
09-15-1999, 11:49 PM
Is that with a post ban reciever or pre-ban, I thought of this myself.

Albert
09-16-1999, 01:22 PM
Thanks guys. I did some research and found out that California has done it again. You cannot own a short barreled rifle in California unless you are in law enforcement or are in the TV/movie industry and modify the gun to shoot only blanks. As a result, paying the tax to the fed's doesn't help me. Maybe my mother was right after all when she moved to Las Vegas. Well, if I can't build a Krinkov, what should I do with my assault weapon dollar before doomsday in California: 1/1/00 when the new assault weapon ban goes into effect? RPK perhaps?

KYGun
09-17-1999, 03:13 AM
So Krinkov kits have to have the buttstock attached? I figured they were legal as long as they were so long in length.

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Keep on shooting, KYGun


[This message has been edited by KYGun (edited September 17, 1999).]

Bryant
09-17-1999, 07:44 PM
Yes, somewhere in the fine print we still have freedom but we are to confused to know what exactly that entails.

Albert
09-18-1999, 02:12 AM
Well, my current understanding is this. If you put the buttstock on a krinkov, you have a short barelled rifle which requires a federal permit and payment of a $200 tax. Short barelled rifles may be illegal in your state like they are in California. If you don't put the buttstock on it, you have a pistol. However, since the magazine is inserted somewhere other than in the pistol grip itself, and the krinkov, I am told, weighs more than 50 oz. unloaded, it is considered an assault weapon under federal law and cannot be manufactured etc. If you can get the federal permit to have a short barelled rifle and it doesn't violate your state's laws, it does not fall under the assault weapon ban and is legal to build and own -- I think. These laws are so confusing that I may be wrong, but I think I have it right. If someone smarter than me can decipher this political gobbly-gook and legal mumbo jumbo and find a way to legally build a krinkov, I think we would all be interested in hearing about it. Thanks for the input.

Destroyer
09-18-1999, 02:34 AM
I think you've got it Albert! The laws are made that way to confuse you.