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Count Glockula
10-10-1999, 07:05 PM
I have been thinking about acquired a SLR-95. The only problem is I really don't like the
thumbhole stock and want to put a pistol grip and stock on the rifle. I know that,according to the 94 assault weapons ban, that a rifle qualifies as an assault weapon if it has a detachable mag and two or
more of the EVIL characteristics in that list, I can't remember the site. Anyway, the rifle has a detachable mag and a muzzle break and, if modified, it will have a pistol grip. The EVIL characteristics list includes a flash suppresser. My question is that if I but a pistol grip on the rifle I will only have one of the EVIL characteristics and I will still be legal, in truth. What I am
worried about is if I am stopped on my way to the range and I get into a discussion with an LEO and he/she tells me that my rifle has a flash suppresser when in actuality it is a muzzle break, how would I prove to them that my gun is legal. A muzzle break and a flash suppresser are really hard to distinguish, I don't even know if I could tell the difference if I really had to. Do you think I am setting myself up for trouble by putting a pistol grip on my rifle? Thanks

PAM6116
10-10-1999, 10:56 PM
count, you can put a pistol grip on, you can build pipe bombs in your basement, come to think of it, you can dig a pit down there, lure women to your home and keep them there and force them to ingest some of the 100 lbs of cocaine you store there. it is not a problem as long as 'leo' doesn't get wind of it.

if they do it is a federal felony and there is no parole in ther federal system. it will cost you a minimum 5000 retainer to get a lawyer's 'help' and he will tell you to plead guilty...cause you are...then you will never be able to lawfully own a firearm again.

so ask yourself...do you feel lucky???

PAM6116
10-10-1999, 10:58 PM
btw, nobody ever commits a crime that can put them away for 10 years thinking they will get caught

Count Glockula
10-11-1999, 12:01 AM
PAM6116 wrote
"count, you can put a pistol grip on, you can build pipe bombs in your basement, come to think of it, you can dig a pit down there, lure women to your home and keep them there and force them to ingest some of the 100 lbs of cocaine you store there. it is not a problem as long as 'leo' doesn't get wind of it."

PAM6116,
What was all that about? I am not talking about doing anything illegal!! That is what I am trying to avoid and your sarcasm is not what I was looking for. I asked for friendly advice on putting a pistol grip on a rifle. I don't know where you came up with the analogy that I was kidnapping people and putting them in my basement?? This was my first post to this group and if everyone else here is as helpful as you, it will be my last!! Lose the attitude, it will only defeat you in time!
To the rest of the group, sorry about the rant, but what I was referring to was the 94 law about assault weapons that states as follows:
(B) a semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least 2 of the following-

(i) a folding or telescopic stock;

(ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon;

(iii) a bayonet mount;

(iv) a flash suppresser or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppresser; and
(v) a grenade launcher;

This info comes from http://www.atf.treas.gov/core/firearms/information/laws/semiaut.htm

So what I am asking, if you look at the law, if I place a pistol grip on the rifle I will only have one of the two traits that make the rifle an assault rifle. So as long as I don't have any of the other mentioned bad traits; will my SLR-95 be legal?

Thanks!

PAM6116
10-11-1999, 12:17 AM
count

please accept my apology. i was not trying to be sarcastic, i guess i was trying to be funny by pointing out the obvious in a ridiculous way. upon re-read of what i posted it is easy to see that i could be misunderstood. again, please accept my apology, i will be more careful in the future and use the winky face when kidding.

now the straight answer. my sister is a prosecutor and a gun owner and would bury anyone with an illegal weapon. if there is any doubt it will cost you more than the weapon is worth to fight about it.

again, sorry

PAM6116
10-11-1999, 12:38 AM
if you go the board's main menu and 'search' muzzle brake the first choice has a spec on the slr 95 muzzle brake...where you could have trouble is that it could be construed as a supressor

i am no gunsmith but...

btw, i still feel like sh#t

Count Glockula
10-11-1999, 01:33 AM
PAM6116,
Apology accepted. Thanks for the info. I will look back at the site and see what I can dig up.

Take care,

Count G

Destroyer
10-11-1999, 03:17 AM
Domestics and imports play by different rules. The '94 ban applies to domestics. Your gun, because it's an import, plays according to the '89 "Bush Ban". So, no you can't *legaly* put a pistole grip on it *unless* you install a US parts kit, thereby making it a domestic. Sound weird? It is. On the other hand, they never inforce those kind of laws. The cops don't understand them and the courts know their unconstitutional so if you won everybody else could put a pistole grip on their rifle too. So in reality it's not too big a deal.

BTW, the muzzle brake on the SLR-95 doesn't look anything like any flash suppressor I've ever seen, so there shouldn't be any problem there. Besides, like I said, the fuzz doesn't even know the laws. Sure they'll bust ya for full auto and most know that folding stocks are generally "no-no"s...

P.S. I, of course, would *never* recommend doing anything illegal.

Count Glockula
10-12-1999, 12:07 AM
Thanks for the advice. I think I will keep the SLR-95 stock and avoid a trip to the Federal Pen! I think I can get used to that funky butthole stock.

PAM6116
10-12-1999, 01:27 AM
if you stay out of the pen you won't have to get used to the butt-hole....

Bryant
10-14-1999, 05:53 AM
The way I look at it, if the guys in black suits are at your door then you're already fucked so you might as well go down in a blaze of glory. A coward dies a thousand times, a valiant man dies but once.