NEW SKS BUFFER TEST

[Blackjack]

I've started this thread for those of you that are testing my new SKS buffers. Keep in mind these test buffers may not be the end product before final production and may be fine tuned based on your findings and suggestions.

My goal is, with your help, to develope the ultimate SKS buffer system available. Either buffer, whether the "H" style for the lower receiver or the one that fits in the receiver cover will function fine by them selves. As an added feature, I have designed these to be used a a matched upper and lower buffer set to provide twice the buffering area and evenly distribute the shock and impact force to the entire receiver area rather than just to the upper or lower portion. This should prove most benificial the those using scopes on their SKS's

Thanks in advance for your help and input to this project.

(orange color is for demostration only)http://blackjackbuffers.com/sksrecver.jpg
http://blackjackbuffers.com/sksHbuf.jpg
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[Blackjack]

Jon, Lee, Ty, and Roy, the lower test buffers are in the mail, look for them around Monday.

[bigtuna]

Tomorrow I give the "H" buffer the test in my russian sks, after I free it from the FFL. Look for the range report tomorrow!

[Blackjack]

I finally got the first batch of my new SKS buffers in tonight, there was a slight problem with the finish though, they fit and function fine but don't look as good as I'd like them to.
Normally I would be selling these for $10 ea. for the upper cover style and $12 ea.for the lower "H" style but I consider these to be blems and will sell either for $6 ea. shipped while supplies last.


http://blackjackbuffers.com/sksblem.jpghttp://blackjackbuffers.com/newsks.jpg

[bigtuna]

Well at long last I was able to get out and test Blackjack's SKS buffer. I also was able to take out my new baby, a 54 Russian.

Let me start off by saying if you have the means, or don't mind eating cereal for two weeks to pay for it, get a Russian SKS. I admit my exposure to the SKS world isn't that vast, but comparing it to the Yugo I had sold (and re-borrowed for this test), I have to say that the Russian in my opinion, is a superior rifle.

That said, I used Wolf 122gr and some other (brass cased stuff, I want to say Remington from a yellow box) for this test to mix things up although it really shouldn't matter I suppose.

Out of 300 rounds (I love to shoot) I had one jam, related more to needing a bit of lube more than anything else. No problems whatsoever from using the H style buffer...oh yeah I forgot, Blackjack makes these things nice workmanship is great, does not look like someone used an exacto knife and a piece of foam rubber, I like the color of the buffer too, it matched the lovely black of the receiver. Good choice.

In both the Yugo and the Russian, I did notice a reduction in the felt recoil. These testers are good stuff.

The only downside to the H-style is that I forgot it was in there and that made getting the rifle stripped for cleaning a bit puzzling.
Again, that's on me and not this product.

I did about 50 rnds of just rapid fire smoke and noise stuff, again, no hassles.

Accuracy wise? I'm a lousy shot and had to supervise my soon to be wife so I didn't get a chance to sit and do the real bench rest stuff.

But look for me to post more

[trikerjay]

i got out to test out the sks buffers today. i was sent both an h style and one of the cover type buffer to test out. first let me say i liked the h style right off hand. it was easier to put in and take out. for the test i used standard wolf fmj. i shot without a buffer first(just to get the feel of it with out a buffer)and then i installed the cover style. went in without a problem(very tight though) i could not notice much of a diffrence in the recoil or reduction in action noise. shot 40rds with that one.no jams or anything. it was a bitch to get out though. next i installed the h style. right off it was quieter cycling the action. i fired 40rds with this buffer. the action noise was pretty much gone. i had no jams, and i fired with that buffer the rest of the time about 100rds more, still with no problems. i dont know if it was just me but i believe the recoil was reduced somwhat. after i got home to clean the guns. i took out the h buffer(it will be going back in) and inspected both buffers neither had any kind of wear(just like the ak buffers of his i have) so to recap...i like the h style much better,but to be safe i will probably use both styles at the same time. great products.:jump:

later jay

[Blackjack]

Trikerjay,

These first run top cover buffers were a bit tight and that is being changed. If your sks has the gas ports drilled in the bottom of the receiver cover, a device such as the gas port clean out tool will pry the buffer right out.

[SLR fan]

Installed my "H" style buffers in three of my Romanian SKSs. I have four total. So the one without a buffer was my baseline/control rifle. All rifles were in their out-of-box standard SKS rifle configuration. The rifles were numbered 1-4 with a piece of tape on the stock. However, I didn't know which rifle had which buffer or which was the control rifle. I tried to do a blind test so I wouldn't be biased in any way. Took them to the range yesterday. Shot all four in rotation (10 rds. at a time) for a total of 50 rds. each. Used 154 gr. Wolf hunting ammo in all rifles. Shot at the 50 yd. target. I tried to make this test as apples to apples as possible. The results were as follows:

- All four rifles shot well. There were no FTEs/FTFs.
- Accuracy was similar across the board with all four rifles. (However, I'll be danged if my Rom beater parts gun didn't shoot the best groups overall.)
- I could tell some difference in "felt" recoil with the buffers. They did lessen the recoil effect. However, the difference was not huge. Not a day & night degree of difference. I took notes when I fired each rifle as to whether it semmed to have more or less recoil than the other rifles tested. The only one I guessed right when I compared my notes was the rifle without a buffer. It registered as having a tad more "felt" recoil than the others. The other that had the buffers in them seemed fairly similar in "felt" recoil. Couldn't tell a great deal of difference between the soft & medium or the medium & hard buffers. (This may be due to the fact that I have 1" buttpad extensions on all my rifles because I need the extra length & trigger pull.)

Next I plan to shoot my "H" style Blackjack buffer against another brand "H" style buffer and see if I can tell any difference. So far I'm very pleased with the Blackjack buffers. They seem to be holding up well.

[Blackjack]

Well it's official now....The SKS H buffer is in production and in inventory.

Thanks to all who helped in the development and testing of this product.


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http://www.blackjackbuffers.com/SKSbuf.jpg

[jcbrown]

I've put both buffers in my Yugo, and they made a huge difference. It is a drastic reduction in recoil. Thanks!

[Blackjack]

It has been brought to my attention that my SKS buffers may fit too tight in some Yugo SKS. If you have my buffers and feel that it is too tight of a fit in a yugo (or any other make) please let me know.