Heads Up: Russian captured German K98 Mauser rifles, $224.95

[lpspinner]

http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=50000

This is a thread posted by Harlan from FAC in MN.

Original German manufacture, Russian captured and arsenal refurbed. Bore condition is good to very good. All with original German and Nazi markings and proofs. Numbers are scribed to match. 8mm caliber.
These are a Curio & Relic firearm.
FFL required.

P/N K98GM

Price $224.95 each, or $199 each if five or more are ordered.

FAC
800-486-5971

http://www.cartogra.com/rs/5A1BB890-C659-11D6-B42C-0090277A760E/screen

[Jericho]

Those look great... So LPSpinner how much do they cahrge when you order a dozen ;) :bye:

[AvtomatKalashnikova]

Very interesting......i wonder if that's the batch AIM's going to have as well.

[Schuetzenman]

Originally posted by AvtomatKalashnikova
Very interesting......i wonder if that's the batch AIM's going to have as well.

YEP!

[cwalker3]

Originally posted by AvtomatKalashnikova
Very interesting......i wonder if that's the batch AIM's going to have as well.

My thoughts exactly. Dammit, I've been meaning to call Eric all week to find out their status, but kept forgetting. Guess I'll have to call work and leave myself a voice mail so I don't forget.

Now, Eric told me that the 98's they had were going to be 'expensive'. I sure hope $225 is his idea of expensive!

[AvtomatKalashnikova]

Actually I was hoping AIM would give us a better deal than FAC. Usually AIM prices are the best! :) Of course it's also possible that AIM's are more expensive, but at better condition.

I hope they don't have those "Crossed Out Rifle" catpure mark that Soviets used to use.

[zouavexx]

Waaaaaaa! http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/smilie/eesdl.gif I want one!


Maybe I can sell a kidney or something :(

[aliceinchains]

I see the russian captures going over $400.00 at least, on the gun auctions.I don't want to spend the money right now, but i am not going to pass one of these up.:cool:

[whos2kno]

AIM is getting my money. any idea when they are going to get them in?

[Schuetzenman]

Hum, I wonder if we could do a group buy?

[whos2kno]

Originally posted by Schuetzenman
Hum, I wonder if we could do a group buy?
that would be cool if we could.

[AvtomatKalashnikova]

Cool idea on the group buy if there's significant saving. Most of us have C&R so it's easy to ship and do paperwork, etc. I'm still hoping for something better from AIM. ;)

[whos2kno]

does anyone know if these are going to be laminated or hard wood stocks?

[Schuetzenman]

Originally posted by whos2kno
does anyone know if these are going to be laminated or hard woof stocks?

If you can see the picture of the crate full they are laminated. I would expect there to be a mix of lams and walnut.

[AvtomatKalashnikova]

this news about some "real" WWII German K98 is getting me all excited. When was the last time German K98 came into the country by the truckload? What was the price then? I wonder if this would be the last chance forever.

[aliceinchains]

Originally posted by Schuetzenman
If you can see the picture of the crate full they are laminated. I would expect there to be a mix of lams and walnut.

I agree Schuetzenman, i have 5 yugo capture's and they are a mix including buttplates.;)

[aliceinchains]

I guess you want to see a pic of all my yugo capture's in one picture now whos2kno.:D

[neilwest]

1. I called and the lady says these are the real McCoy gauranteed. I am sending my C&R and will get on. I'll let you guys know when it arrives.:D

[REDSTAR]

I'll call Erik on Monday and put out some feelers about a possible group purchase from the C&R Forums, just to see what they have to say about it. Then if something like this is doable for them I'll get something going.

[lpspinner]

Originally posted by Schuetzenman
Hum, I wonder if we could do a group buy?

It shouldn't be do hard, since we all have C&R's, but Schuetzenman has the real McCoy and we could maybe do it thru you?

I wonder if Harlan will help us out?

[aliceinchains]

Originally posted by REDSTAR
I'll call Erik on Monday and put out some feelers about a possible group purchase from the C&R Forums, just to see what they have to say about it. Then if something like this is doable for them I'll get something going.



If you do that REDSTAR, bring that ass of yours over to PA and i will give it a big kiss.:)

[AvtomatKalashnikova]

Originally posted by aliceinchains
If you do that REDSTAR, bring that ass of yours over to PA and i will give it a big kiss.:)

Hey if you bring your ass to WA, will give you a kiss too. :D :D
Let's hope AIM or FAC will give us a break on this group buy. Wouldn't this be the 1st GunsNet C&R Forum Group Buy? Damn I will be dreaming of a laminate K98 tonight!

[zouavexx]

I hope we can work this out, and yes this would be a first :D

[Dan44]

I was in a group buy at Gunboards that worked out fine, hope we could do the same.

[RetVet]

Group purchase sounds like a great idea. Might even be able to swing a better deal ordering in bulk.:)

[Dan44]

SSME knocked $20 off the regular price on the TT33 buy on Gunboards (saved $40 on two) Helps them and helps us. If I rememeber right it was twenty guns. Think the guys here would buy that many?

[REDSTAR]

Probably Dan44. if not I can think of at least 10 who probably would. me and Shuetz were talking and he's going to contact AIM on monday well let you know what happens.For sure we can get enough guys for the $199 discount with Harlan.

[lpspinner]

Originally posted by REDSTAR
Probably Dan44. if not I can think of at least 10 who probably would. me and Shuetz were talking and he's going to contact AIM on monday well let you know what happens.For sure we can get enough guys for the $199 discount with Harlan.

I can call Harlan on Monday and see if you want?

[AvtomatKalashnikova]

Maybe we can get AIM and FAC to bid against each other. :D

I'm definitely in if we can get some savings. Obviously handpicking won't really be feasible in a group buy, but I hope they let us name a few specifics, such as how many want laminates, and how many hardwood, etc.

[Dan44]

That and it's hard to tell if they have the cleaning rod and sight hood.

[SalBO]

is there any collectability difference betwen walnut and laminated stocks ?
FAC already has my 03 but if we can save enough on a group buy I am all for it....

[REDSTAR]

lpspinner, lets hold off on calling them until we see what AIM has to say, we don't want to get two deals going at once and then not follow through with one. We at least know they will sell 5+ at a discount.

[neilwest]

Well, I already ordered one, but I will get another if you guys get a group purchase to keep the numbers up. From what I understand these are a good buy.

[lpspinner]

Originally posted by neilwest
Well, I already ordered one, but I will get another if you guys get a group purchase to keep the numbers up. From what I understand these are a good buy.

Ok, no problem. Both places have my C&R anyway. This is Post 999 for me.

[zouavexx]

Originally posted by neilwest
...From what I understand these are a good buy.

Actually, I would say that this is the buy of the decade! This is a one time chance for most of us!

Zou:)

[AvtomatKalashnikova]

Like I said earlier, when's the last time such a big shipment of GERMAN K98 came into the US? I sure cant' remember...and those Russians must be digging pretty deep to find them, otherwise they'd have sold those long time ago. What do these come with? Bayo, sling, etc, or nothing at all?

[NC_Rebel]

If we can swing the group buy with AIM, I'm in for two.

[RetVet]

You can count me in for one. For one of these I'm willing to take the heat from the better half.

[CETME]

You got my attention!

[whos2kno]

ok question time
has anyone seen a Russian captured K98? what markings are there and what are not. is it just a luck of the draw or did the Russians just keep the markings on them and stored the weapons for a rainy day.

[Falcon 17]

I've got a couple k98's but i'll be in for another if their in nice shape with markings.

[Schuetzenman]

Originally posted by whos2kno
ok question time
has anyone seen a Russian captured K98? what markings are there and what are not. is it just a luck of the draw or did the Russians just keep the markings on them and stored the weapons for a rainy day.

All I can tell you is what a person at AIM told me. All the markings are supposed to be intact. Conditoion is supposed to be VG or better . . . . . but they haven't seen them yet. Sometime next week they should be in.

[aliceinchains]

I am in for at least one from aim, maybe two.I hope we can get a group deal from them.:cool:

[whos2kno]

if AIM has then with all markings intact ill be in for 2 of them

[bmwguy]

Oh Man!

I was all set on getting a SVT-40 for my next rifle, now this comes along!

I currently have one 8mm(Yugo M48), perhaps it needs a sibling??

Decision, decision.

[AvtomatKalashnikova]

Keep in mind that most of the time Russians put a "crossed rifle" - capture mark on these captured weapons, it looks like a little X. Sometimes you get lucky, I got lucky with a captured P38 w/o capture marking. I hope these don't have these marks.

[CETME]

Why not? i think they add even more history to a legendary rifle. Built by the Germans, used by the germans... taken from the cold dead hands of a Nazi soldier and restored by the Russians..... what more could you want?! These are brewing in fascinating history.

[Pa.Patriot]

I'd be in for at least one if AIM's has the original nazi markings, capture mark is fine by me as long as originals aren't scrubbed.

I think I'll order one from FAC in the mean time, just to be safe . ;)

I need to order more FAL US parts from FAC for my builds anyway :)

[lpspinner]

Originally posted by Pa.Patriot

I need to order more FAL US parts from FAC for my builds anyway :)

What are you getting? I still need 4 more USA pieces.

[Pa.Patriot]

Let me know what parts you need and maybe I can hook you up :)

PM sent about FAL off topic stuff :)

PS: will be sending FFL on Monday

[gewehr44]

Originally posted by whos2kno
has anyone seen a Russian captured K98? what markings are there and what are not. is it just a luck of the draw or did the Russians just keep the markings on them and stored the weapons for a rainy day.

I purchased one from Empire Arms a few months back. All the marking are intact & two very small x's (or similar) were added to the top of the receiver, but they are not pronounced. The rifle had been completely reblued & is in excellent condition. It appears they cleaned them up, rearsenaled them & stored them. The only downside is that the parts are usually force matched with an engraver. I find that to be somewhat of an eyesore. I would imagine these new imports would be almost exactly the same.

http://www.ci.darien.ct.us/dfd/CnR/actioncloseupsml.jpg

[whos2kno]

Originally posted by gewehr44
I purchased one from Empire Arms a few months back. All the marking are intact & two very small x's (or similar) were added to the top of the receiver, but they are not pronounced. The rifle had been completely reblued & is in excellent condition. It appears they cleaned them up, rearsenaled them & stored them. The only downside is that the parts are usually force matched with an engraver. I find that to be somewhat of an eyesore. I would imagine these new imports would be almost exactly the same.

http://www.ci.darien.ct.us/dfd/CnR/actioncloseupsml.jpg
thanks for the post!!
how is the bore on yours?
if you where going to pay a little over 200 for it would you?

[AvtomatKalashnikova]

yeah, thanks for the pic. It sure looks good. how much did you pay for it? Would you do it again? The markings are very good on yours.

[SalBO]

that looks very nice. Thanks for posting the pic.....

[Schuetzenman]

Yes nice photo. I think these are going to be a collectors subclass of K98k's, kind of like the lend lease Garands. I would prefer that the Russians hadn't electropencil engraved them but what you gonna do? :rolleyes:

[USMC NAM GRUNT]

I can't think of a better deal to brake my C&R cherry. It should be here shortly.

If anybody's keeping count add one more to the group buy......

[SalBO]

Originally posted by USMC NAM GRUNT
I can't think of a better deal to brake my C&R cherry. It should be here shortly.

If anybody's keeping count add one more to the group buy......


Welcome to the madness. This would be a great Cherry blast for you......:)

[USMC NAM GRUNT]

Originally posted by SalBO
Welcome to the madness. This would be a great Cherry blast for you......:)

And from what i can remember. [been a long time] The anticipation is about the same......

Hope everything goes together well here too....

[jimmyjoebob]

if AIM can go a groupie then I will be in for 1 maybe 2 if I can sneak the 2nd by my Bosslady

[aliceinchains]

Originally posted by USMC NAM GRUNT
I can't think of a better deal to brake my C&R cherry. It should be here shortly.

If anybody's keeping count add one more to the group buy......

You couldn't bust your cherry on a much better deal.Look at the auction prices on yugo captures, and most of the birds and codes are scrubbed.:mad:

[Jericho]

And just think that Century had german K98's a couple of years back for under $100 with all the markings :(

[aliceinchains]

Originally posted by Jericho
And just think that Century had german K98's a couple of years back for under $100 with all the markings :(

Ain't that some shit Jericho, just a couple of years back.Now the question is will you find them for sale at this price in a couple of years.Or won't there be any left.:eek:

[gewehr44]

I paid $275 for mine so, HECK YEAH, I would buy one for $225. As a matter of fact, I'm fighting off the urge to buy a 2nd one! The bore on mine is very good. Rifling looks sharp & no marks or pits that I can see. I've only shot it once & put a bandolier of Turk ammo thru it. It seemed to shoot high & to the right for the 1st 20 rounds or so, then it seemed pretty close to dead on. At first I thought it was once the barrel warmed up, but I now suspect it was my sight picture, since I'm not that familiar with this type of open sight. The only possible problem I can think of is when I opened the bolt slowly after firing, the shell casings would sometimes get stuck on the extractor. It was never a problem with a forceful pull , though.

[MPi-KM]

I'm interested in a group deal if I could get one for around $200 with the laminated stock.Keep us updated.:bye:

[Schuetzenman]

Ok Gents,
Here's the word from AIM. They still don't have them in, they think it will be Wednesday, could be as late as Friday. They won't set a price until they have them get in. So, hang tight as soon as I have something I'll post it and the details about how were going to work this.

My advice is that any of you that want one should make sure you have your C&R's at AIM. Although I have my 01 FFL, I don't want to end up as a clearing house for secondary shippment. I think if we do this we should try and pay for them as a block but each weapon should ship direct from AIM to the buyer.

[cwalker3]

Thanks for the update Schuetzenman. Yet another reason to count the days till Friday.

[jimmyjoebob]

so Scheutz- I assume they are going to do a group buy deal with us? When DAN44 and I did the Gunboards one with SSME, we kept a log of who was in via a spreadsheet and send that to SSME so they know who would be calling in. Just an FYI

James

[Guinny_Ire]

Wednesday I may know if I 'm buying a house or not. If it's not too late for me to potentially get into this could you ballpark what time frame you think this will occur over and how quickly I'll have to commit? No sour grapes here if it works out differently than what you post here. I just want this in the back of my mind in case things go to the crapper on this house and want to be able to jump in. I do not however expect to have the bus wait for me. Thanks

[smittylite]

Guess I need to call ATF and try to prod them along. :mad:

Hypothetically, would I be able to get in the deal if I had AIM ship to my FFL transfer dealer? :confused:

Or, if anyone gets an extra they don't want ;) , I have some stuff I could trade. ;)

[Schuetzenman]

Originally posted by Guinny_Ire
Wednesday I may know if I 'm buying a house or not. If it's not too late for me to potentially get into this could you ballpark what time frame you think this will occur over and how quickly I'll have to commit? No sour grapes here if it works out differently than what you post here. I just want this in the back of my mind in case things go to the crapper on this house and want to be able to jump in. I do not however expect to have the bus wait for me. Thanks

Well I think we all need to pony up by a week from today if they come back with a favorable price. These rifles are going to sell quick if they are as good as reports. They won't gather any dust if you follow me. So we need not keep AIM hanging waiting on payment from multiple people.

If push came to shove, I could have them shipped to me on an open invoice and distribute them from my store in NC. I hate to do that because of the double handling and shipping. I rarely get a price as good as they do on UPS. I of course would only charge what it costs, no profit from shipping if we have to go this way.

Anybody that's late on payment will see their rifle go to the next gun show with me and get sold. Sorry but if I take on the responsibility of accepting 10, 20 or 30 of these rifles, I'm not going to be left on the hook to AIM for the money long. No flame intended, to you Guinny or anyone else reading this. I'm just telling it like it'll go down IF, and I stress IF we need to go this route.

Once again I'd prefer that we send our money in and AIM ships to all of us seperately.

[Schuetzenman]

Originally posted by smittylite
Guess I need to call ATF and try to prod them along. :mad:

Hypothetically, would I be able to get in the deal if I had AIM ship to my FFL transfer dealer? :confused:

Or, if anyone gets an extra they don't want ;) , I have some stuff I could trade. ;)

Yes, you can use a transferring dealer rather than your C&R if you have to. His FFL just needs to go to them with payment or to me if we have the scenario that I outline in my post to Guinny.:bye:

[Guinny_Ire]

Appreciate the candor. Bobby will tell you I'm poop or get off the pot kind of guy and will either commit or won't but hate things that hang. I'll walk away for the good of others if I'm not sure. No flame taken.

[AvtomatKalashnikova]

Appreciate the updated info from AIM. You always tell it like it is Schuetzenman, I like that! I too believe sending in the money (and C&R license) to AIM directly, and then have them ship out the rifle to individuals directly would be the best route. Schuetzenman has his own business to run and let's not add more burden to his daily life. Also this way if there's any payment and rifle quality issues should arise, we'd deal with AIM directly. (God knows we C&R people like to nitpick. :D)

BTW, We should have a separate signup post to make sure we know who's getting, and how many we are getting in all. I assume the bigger the order, the bigger break. ;)

[Schuetzenman]

Originally posted by AvtomatKalashnikova
BTW, We should have a separate signup post to make sure we know who's getting, and how many we are getting in all. I assume the bigger the order, the bigger break. ;)

Well maybe yes and maybe no. Most times these guys are getting by on 5% net out. So they can only go so far. We'll just have to see what they come up with when they get them.:bye:

[Guinny_Ire]

Maybe they can make an optional accessory package or something. Wife and I are discussing TODAY/TONIGHT whether we'll go bridge loan. So I will know tomorrow what I'm doing [I think unless she doesn't tell me what I'm doing -wink LOL]. I should know

[SalBO]

thanks for the update guys......I am looking forward to what the deal can be. So far, so good.......

[HOF]

Schuetzenman,
I am highly interested in the group deal. Put me on the list. Thanks!

[DeFens]

Please log me as another serious buyer. I'd like a laminated stock version, myself. My C&R is on file with AIM (only had it two or three weeks, and I've already been quite busy with Bryan!)

[lpspinner]

Originally posted by DeFens
Please log me as another serious buyer. I'd like a laminated stock version, myself. My C&R is on file with AIM (only had it two or three weeks, and I've already been quite busy with Bryan!)

Welcome to the board DeFens. What a great way to start using your C&R. Even if it's not your 1st purchase, it's still a great begining.

[TheRifleman]

Dang, in the intrest of not going broke I have been staying away from here. Now it looks like I'll have to pop for an Albanian SKS and one of these capture rifles...Geeezzzz!!!! Does AIM have them in stock yet???

[Jericho]

WELCOME TO THE BOARD DeFens

[DeFens]

Thanks for the warm welcome, fellas!

I've been collecting guns for awhile, but only modern ones at retail (including some ugly black prebans that I bought back in the 80's) until I got my C&R a couple of weeks ago.

Since my Dad gave me some of his extras (a beauty of an FN49, an Argentine Mauser, and a Swiss K31) I'd have to say I've been bitten by the bug. Picked up my new AIM Yugo SKS at UPS today, have a Sistema, a Star Modelo P, a Turk Mauser, and a MAS 49/56 on their way. Is there any end to this affliction? :)

[whos2kno]

Originally posted by DeFens
Thanks for the warm welcome, fellas!

I've been collecting guns for awhile, but only modern ones at retail (including some ugly black prebans that I bought back in the 80's) until I got my C&R a couple of weeks ago.

Since my Dad gave me some of his extras (a beauty of an FN49, an Argentine Mauser, and a Swiss K31) I'd have to say I've been bitten by the bug. Picked up my new AIM Yugo SKS at UPS today, have a Sistema, a Star Modelo P, a Turk Mauser, and a MAS 49/56 on their way. Is there any end to this affliction? :)
COOL
your going to fit in here real good
welcome abroad!!

looks like Neil has some good compition now.