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neilwest
10-19-2002, 01:38 PM
1. 1944 Terni. This one has seen some action. I need a buttplate and a bayonet swivel front. other then that she is intact. I am gonna clean her and start to shop for parts. Ill post pics when finished.

2. Im gonna have to post pics of all my Carcanos now.
HerrdoktorSchuetzengruvin
10-21-2002, 11:58 AM
Wow, a 1944? Are you sure? I have a 43 Terni and thought it was the last year of Ternis, as that's the year of the Italian Armistice.

What kind of M38? Cavalry Carbine?
zouavexx
10-21-2002, 01:44 PM
Interesting! Post some close ups of the proof marks for us.
HerrdoktorSchuetzengruvin
10-22-2002, 04:02 PM
I heard the Nazis kept running Terni after the Armistice.

If that is a 44, I would call it noncommon at the least!
neilwest
10-23-2002, 07:21 PM
1. TERNI 1944 XXII is the proofstamp. I cant focus the pic but will try to get a better pic with my wifes camera when she gets home.

http://album.gunsnet.net/data/tammywest/90_p4995.jpg

2. It was a UFIXEM from Century for $44.00 dollars. Ive found a buttplate and the front band. I still need the bayolug and the front piece along with a side swivel. Im shopping. I might have to buy another UFIXEM to get the parts I need.
whos2kno
10-23-2002, 09:42 PM
hay Neil give me some of you luck please!!!
looks like you did good AGAIN!!!
so what are you going to do with this one?
HerrdoktorSchuetzengruvin
10-23-2002, 10:32 PM
Originally posted by whos2kno
hay Neil give me some of you luck please!!!
looks like you did good AGAIN!!!
so what are you going to do with this one?

Luck? You need LUCK?

Seems as I recall, your first Carcano was a 1940 Terni Short Rifle with a C prefix!
HerrdoktorSchuetzengruvin
10-23-2002, 10:37 PM
Neil - what is that shiny reflection in the fingergroove?
neilwest
10-24-2002, 06:50 AM
1. Just the way the flash caught the finish. I havent steelwooled the tung oil yet.
carcano
10-24-2002, 07:13 AM
Dear Neil,

this is indeed interesting. From everything we know, Mod. 91/38 short rifles were only built from 1940 to 1941. Often, the 1941 is badly stamped. However, if the Christian date and the Fascist era date are both correct (XXII could mean 1944 indeed), this would be most unusual since all Italian manufacturers stopped dating their guns in 1943.

We would all appreciate a good close-up of the barrel base (from various perspectives). Please let me know the other markings and the full serial number(s) on receiver and stock, either publicly here or via email if you prefer.

As to parts: I got some and will be glad to help out if you can't find them in the USA.

Best regards,
Alexander Eichener
carcano91@hotmail.com
neilwest
10-24-2002, 07:43 AM
1. I will post pics to you via e-mail and give you all info I have. This weapon has graffiti on it as well. As can be seen on the buttstock a cross has been stamped in using a ring punch of some kind. I will clean the proofs on the reciever and send them out to you this evening.
HerrdoktorSchuetzengruvin
10-24-2002, 10:25 AM
Neil - Thanks bud!

Email the closeups to Alexander, and NOT share them with us, too?

Grrr, grumble, grumble....................:D
neilwest
10-24-2002, 12:53 PM
1. I'll send them to you as well.:)
survivor99
10-24-2002, 03:44 PM
Wow, Neil!!! You have scored BIG TIME this time! You say, a Century u-fix-em????? Man, I can't believe your luck. I could order several and they would arrive minus the bolts and sights, LMAO!!!

Seriously, we're happy for you, buddy! Beautiful rifle!!!

survivor99
whos2kno
10-24-2002, 05:54 PM
Originally posted by HerrdoktorSchuetzengruvin
Luck? You need LUCK?

Seems as I recall, your first Carcano was a 1940 Terni Short Rifle with a C prefix!
ok you got me,but my luck is running out