sighting in your ak

[zero]

When sighting in a military weapon [ak-47] why do most military poeple tell you to aim at 6:00 and sight the weapon in so it will hit dead center. I don't understand this concept. I've also heard that you are supposed to set your ak sight's on battle setting's, if i'm shooting at 100 yard's you would think you would set your rear sight on one, which actually mean's 110 yard's. Any help on this would be greatly appreciated.

[KYoon]

The reason why I think they say and do this is that the actual zero of the military rifle is supposed to be at 250-300 meters. By sighting on the 6 o'clock position, this roughly corresponds to the point where the bullet trajectory will hit the your target dead center of aim at 250 or 300 meters, or at whatever range the zero actually corresponds.

[KYoon]

The reason why I think they say and do this is that the actual zero of the military rifle is supposed to be at 250-300 meters. By sighting on the 6 o'clock position, this roughly corresponds to the point where the bullet trajectory will hit the your target dead center of aim at 250 or 300 meters, or at whatever range the zero actually corresponds.

[JA]

You want your target at six o'clock so that the sights don't cover up your target. Kinda hard to hit it if you can't see it. Set rear sight on 1 and sight in at 100 yards. Battle setting allows you to hit a man at 0-300 yards. Really it is meters but yards are more common on ranges in USA.

[onedayu2]

Speaking of targets and accuracy...I have an SA85M. Im having trouble with accuracy. I was aiming dead center on the bulleye(which in this case was a "hostage taker's" head target). I was getting a consistant group but off to the left about 6". Was that me or the gun? Is there something I can do to correct that? Should I just adjust my barrel to the right on purpose? I have a problem purposly aiming off target to get the bullet to hit where I want it to.I believe that a gun should shoot true.Thanks for your help.

[zero]

you can adjust the front sight's left or right on your hungarian sa85m, what you need is a front sight adjusting tool and it will fit over the front sight. It look's like a small c-clamp with a threaded t- handled screw threw it. Look at your front sight and there will be a small round metal rod that goes threw the front sight assembly, your front sight post screw's into it. You will have to push that to the left to put the bullet impact on the bullseye. You can also get a rear sight that adjusts for windage, they are made in germany, they run 29.99 threw global trades.

[onedayu2]

Wow.....thanks for the info Zero.....
I'll look into both. I saw the sight tool ...just cant remember where.
Just one thing: how does changing the rear sight affect legality of the post ban?

[zero]

I know what your talking about, when i sighted in that nhm91 i had consistent groups but alway's to the right of the target. I adjusted my front sight and did bring the bullet impact over, i still need to adjust alittle more. You need to take the rifle out and shoot a couple of box's of ammo threw it and see if it's the gun or you. Do you have a bench to shoot off of, that's what you will need, also sight the weapon in with the ammo you intend to use all the time.

[onedayu2]

I have regular iron sites on the front and rear elevation sites only in back. There is no way (as far as I know) to adjust for right/left movement. Could be the cheap range ammo I was using...
How is your rifle set up? You can adjust right/left on yours?

[Cheapo]

Absolutely no effect on pre/post ban nonsense. Our Congressional handlers only care about detachable magazines, pistol grips, flash suppressors, threaded muzzles, and drive-by bayonettings.

Tell me, when can a cop be justified in returning fire to a muzzle flash? What effect has it had when they could detect muzzle flash from crooks who missed anyway?

[maadiman]

You can get a sight tool from Tapco at www.tapco.com. (http://www.tapco.com.) They have lots of other neat stuff for AK's, SKS's, and AR-15's. I don't recommend the rear sight for AK's that adjusts for windage - it's made of cheap plastic! Most of the other stuff I've bought from them is pretty good, and the prices are fairly reasonable.

[Packrat]

I would highly recommend a sight adjustment tool, especially if you have / will have several AKs /SKSs pass through your hands. Also, you can be a good guy at the range. They're going for about $10 now.
You want to adjust your sights to hit the target the way YOU shoot. If you can group your shots well, you and the gun are good. The sights can be adjusted.
For combat, a firing position that I think is sadly underused is the kneeling position. It is fast to get into, it puts you above rubble, tall grass, etc., is halves the target you present to the enemy, and it is a very stable position -- nearly as good as prone. On a slim barrel weapon like the AK47, DON'T try to use the sling. If you pull it tight enough (even as a hasty sling) to get any help, it will bend the barrel enough to move you off target.

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Packrat

[Heavy Metal]

The military teaches to sigh "center mass" as opposed to 6 o'clock. Target shooters use a six o'clock hold to float the bull for a better sight picture on a target of known distance and known size. The bulls all subtend the same MOA of your field of view regardless of distance as the targets are printed to be relatively the same "apparent" size at the respective distances.
It is plain FOLLY to use a six o'clock sight picture for field use as range isin't usually known to a high degree of precision and the targets vary in size according to several variables. Your target may vary in size but center mass is always center mass. I keep my ak zeroed at center mass with the sight set on 200m as my standard. Zero at 200m with the sight set on 2 splitting the target in the middle and you will be good to go. A six o'clock hold has NO place on a combat weapon.