If you had to G.et O.ut O.f D.odge.... What would you take & how would you take it?

[rob levy]

My personal thoughts on G.O.O.D. gear.

Alice pack w/frame
w/ expected gear

Dragonov .308 & 2 mags
a. w/ waterproof rifle bag
b. PVS2 w/SEALINE waterproof bag
c. 100 rnds Fed gold match
d. 10 inc. rnds
e. .32 SUB-CALIBER ADAPTER

Preban Chinese Underfolder
a. 12 mags / 360 rnds
b. 360 rnds in Alice
c. LBT chest pouch

Berreta M21(.22) w/200rnds: (100 Colibri & 50 SSS ammo, 50 stingers)

Keltec .32 w/ 100rnds

EAGLE inds. Liquipack2
Early BLACKHAWK thigh holster w/ Glock 24
100 rnds Corbon 135gr .40 cal / 2 DF hicaps
BlackHawk LBE belt w/ pad
Chris Reeve Skinning knife
F/Aid kit
MREs
etc....

Tell me your Ideas..... I know alot of people out there are daydreaming w/the same questions.

Take care,
rob

[BIGWINR69]

http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=243170&a=1851541&p=20256401&Sequence=0

CFP internal frame ruck
2 2qt. canteens
2 1qt.canteens
lightweight 2-man tent(subdued)
ranger roll(poncho liner and poncho toghter)
big ass spoon on lanyard
stainless steel cooking pot
bino's
leatherman tool
kuhkri
camel back(mule)also used a day-pack
compass,pocket knive,magnesium firestarter(all on neckcord)
air force survival manual(info quik and easy,helps firestarting)
frog gig
flashlight
machine wire(snares,tripwires,repair)
maps
fishing line
as much food and ammo I can carry at the time
5 30rd 7.62x39
3 13rd 9mm


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[rob levy]

Bigwin:

Seems like you would have the same prob i have...How would you wear your camelback with your pack on? One of my number one priorities would be having my Liquipak w/ me when i drop my Pack. If you strap your camelback on your pack or have a pack w/ a 'custom' sleeve..... it wont work. Remember Line 1,2 & 3 gear phil.

thanks,
rob



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[BIGWINR69]

http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=243170&a=5557274&p=20412937&Sequence=0

Wellthe straps onthe pack can be let out and basically hook some-where cause in opinion I think the camel-back is one of the most important pieces of gear I carry.

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[ISC]

I installed quick release connections on the retaining straps of my ruck. I put my camalback under the map case flap on top and can pull it out quickly if I need it. Its usually dry by the time I reach an orp though, so it isn't much of an issue.

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De Oppresso Liber

[Blued Market]

Is this a planned GOOD situation?
If so, I load up the truck with everything I got, and split forever.

Or is this a *ring, ring* (telephone) "hello"
"hey, you got 5 minutes to be gone" *click*
If so I grab either my sidefolder AK, or my short barrel AR. Mags out the ass on a load bearing vest, small ruck with MREs, combat knife, pistol, poncho, and canteen. I live in an extremely urban enviroment so compact, lightweight, and concealment are key.

Damn now you went and got me thinking again http://www.ak-47.net/akcgi/wink.gif I may revise this after the weekend http://www.ak-47.net/akcgi/biggrin.gif

[rob levy]

ISC.....

Your idea of Fastex buckles is a good idea. What about Rigging 4 buckles on the ruck; then the 4 already on my liquipack would snap right on !!!!! thanks.

Blued Mkt: youre statement "I live in an extremely urban enviroment so compact, lightweight, and concealment are key." is right on target.

I asked my grandfather about that idea(He escaped & evaded from Chech. to Italy then Israel and the British occupation during WW2 w/ the help of the resistance.) He said one of the keys to survival was concealment. Civiy clothes, pouches, and Weapons (ie STEN) saved his butt many times.

rob.

[AKsrule]

White SUV ( requisitioned after TSHTF )
Assorted small arms ( same as above )
Nubile Red Cross worker -female -
( same as above )

Works for me :}

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Have you hugged your Assault Rifle today?

[greentimber]

I keep 16 30-round AR mags loaded with 20 rnds each (to avoid spring damage) in usgi bandoliers. I also have 7 20-round mags in an old-style bandolier fully loaded with soft points/hollow points (my Deptartment OKs personal ARs for patrol).

In my medium-size a.l.i.c.e. pack I have an additional 500 packaged rounds. Extra socks & clothing depending on the season. Goretex coat & pants, insect repellent, sunscreen, compass, flashlight & batteries, survival & improvised munitions manuals, OD green duct tape, and a Bible.

Glock M22 with 10 Hi-cap mags. Glock 19 (or other 9mm) might be better due to ammo availability.

If I can leave in a vehicle, I'm taking all my guns & ammo as well as food, clothing and whatever else fits. If not (Oh S#!t), ammo, ammo, ammo, water, and Bible.

Noticeably lacking is first aid supplies. I admit it, I have fallen down on the job here. I do plan to correct this deficiency ASAP.

There is much else I need to add. This type of discussion is excellent and thought provoking.

I don't remember who said it but there is a quote from the Napoleonic era that applies here. Paraphrased it is: "Let the enemy be your quartermaster."

Truth be known, once TSHTF I think that the need for extensive supplies will be negated by a short life expectancy for those who fight. I much prefer this to submission, though.

Others have said it better:

"Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!"

Patrick Henry
In his famous The War Inevitable speech, March, 1775


"If you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed, if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not so costly, you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all
the odds against you and only a precarious chance for survival. There may be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no chance of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves."

Winston Churchill
Concerning the Nazi threat

--OK, sorry for the vent, I get stirred up easily these days.--

Kyle

[LAgunman2K-3]

a white SUV ? i agree with getting a truck/suv, but white? seems like it would make you stand out more than you need to, not that a truck/suv isnt going to make you stand out anyway --just an observation

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and on the 8th day GOD made the AK-47 and saw that this was good

talk is cheap, but bullets are even Cheaper!!!

[Blued Market]

As far as medical supplies...
I read an interesting piece on that recently.
In it the author mentioned you should only carry very basic supplies, bandages, iodine, ace bandage. His point was that advanced supplies are useless, unless:
A) you know how to properly use them.
B) you can get patient/yourself to a hospital fast.

Advanced field procedures are only good if stable (hospital) conditions are in the imediate future. Don't weigh yourself down with IVs scalples and crap, you will only die tired.

[FistAcuff]

The jist of my "WAR BAG" contains 38 30round mags for the ar-15,on load bearing vest with 2 saw pouches and 2 more 3 mag pouches.Pistol in .357 sig 150 rounds,body armor with level 4 plate,kevlar helmut,m-40 gas mask with 2 sealed filters,russian nvg's,woodland camo,ham radio,cold steel ghurka,cold steel srk knife,a few cans of Red Bull energy drink,and my trusty Doc Martens.
everything a boy could ask for,ofcource there would be improve devices made for shtf deal http://www.ak-47.net/akcgi/smile.gif

[ValmetM76]

A White SUV!
Of course!! You could add UN in blue anytime you need to.
A blue beret and you're all set.


Regards,
Mike



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[VinceMP]

I too would take a "Bronco Blanco". Add a fake beard and $10G. Get me a buudy to help drive.

This might not get me across the Mexico border but it might help get me aquitted. http://www.ak-47.net/akcgi/biggrin.gif