Correct bayonet for M1

[NC_Rebel]

I want to find a bayonet to marry up with my new Winchester Garand. Which bayonet should I look for and what is a good price range? I have a feeling there are several...

[zouavexx]

All genuine Garand bayonets are correct ;) I have several. I have a cut down "bowie style" 03 Springfield bayonet that was used early on in the war. A Korean War era bayonet (actually I gave that one to Redstar) and a Viet Nam era bayonet that I think also fits the M14.


ED4 is the expert in this area.

[zouavexx]

Some links:

http://www.arms2armor.com/Bayonets/usm1g.htm

http://www.civilianmarksmanship.com/accessoryhtml/accbayonets.html

http://www.fulton-armory.com/M1Bayonet.htm

[ED4]

I can't remember all the designations. But I have the 03, 03 cutdown(1905 I believe) and M5E1(or A1 can't remember and I'll get my book out tomorrow if I have time(going out of town for new years eve/day).

But here are 3 of my M1 Garand bayonets:
http://www.printroom.com/_vti_bin/ViewImage.dll?userid=ED4&album_id=60228&image_id=14&param=92956

[Schuetzenman]

Ok Chris,
I got out the Olympus and made some photos of Garnad Bayonets. Really only the last one the Post Korean War 7 inch blade is dedicatated to the Garand alone. Prior bayonets like the long 1905 and the newer 10 inch bayonet that came out in 42 were able to fit all Springfield type rifles, 03's and 03A3's etc.

http://album.gunsnet.net/data/schuetzenman/47_p7201.jpg
Top to bottom: 16 inch 1905 type. (This one is date 1943 and has a USN scabard. It's a bit of an enigma as the long ones such as this were supposed to have been dropped in 1942 for the 10 inch model). 10 inch WWII and Korean War bayonet. Last the shortest at 7 inches I think it's called the Mark IV bayonet. The Mk V fits the M14 if I recall correctly.

The first two longer bayonets hang from the muzzle as you'll see in this next photo. They affect accuracy a whole lot and it isn't good!
http://album.gunsnet.net/data/schuetzenman/47_p7202.jpg

The 7 inch Mk IV correct for the Garand just after the Korean War and Vietnam hangs from the gas cylinder by the stud on the upper half of the guard.
http://album.gunsnet.net/data/schuetzenman/47_p7203.jpg
Accuracy of the rifle is not adversly affected on my M1's using this style of bayonet, which makes it my favorite bayonet for the M1's.

[Schuetzenman]

Because of the 5 image limitation here are 3 photos of each bayonet mounted to an M1 rifle.

http://album.gunsnet.net/data/schuetzenman/47_p7204.jpg
16 inch 1905 version.

http://album.gunsnet.net/data/schuetzenman/47_p7205.jpg
10 inch model.

http://album.gunsnet.net/data/schuetzenman/47_p7206.jpg
7 inch Mk IV.

[NC_Rebel]

Wow awesome info, guys! Thanks!

Schuetz, the 7" model is the one I've seen at gun shows most often. That's the one I am interested in. What's a reasonable price for one of those?

[Schuetzenman]

Originally posted by NC_Rebel
Wow awesome info, guys! Thanks!

Schuetz, the 7" model is the one I've seen at gun shows most often. That's the one I am interested in. What's a reasonable price for one of those?

I got this one, that's virtually new for $35 about 4 years ago. Probably up to about $40 or $45 these days. Of course you should be able to get a used one for about $25 to $30.

[NC_Rebel]

Okay good. Any specific manufacturer codes or markings I should look for?

[Onslow]

"Accuracy of the rifle is not adversly affected on my M1's using this style of bayonet, which makes it my favorite bayonet for the M1's."

I was reading this thread and was wondering why does the bayonet affect the accuracey of a rifle so much? I know this to be true of the SKS but I was curious as to the the whole physics thing? Does it cause a "shaking or rattling of the bullet as it leaves the barrel since it's another part hanging along side the barrel?

Some nice looking M1's Schuetz.

[Faulkner]

Top bayonet is an original 10 inch M1 bayonet. The bottom one is a M1905E1 bayonet, which started out as a 16 inch but was cut down to 10 inches. A cut down bayonet will have the blood groove run all the way to the tip, a M1 bayonet's blood groove stops a couple of inches from the tip.

http://www.picturefuse.com/images/0202/2298.jpg

[Schuetzenman]

Originally posted by Onslow
"Accuracy of the rifle is not adversly affected on my M1's using this style of bayonet, which makes it my favorite bayonet for the M1's."

I was reading this thread and was wondering why does the bayonet affect the accuracey of a rifle so much? I know this to be true of the SKS but I was curious as to the the whole physics thing? Does it cause a "shaking or rattling of the bullet as it leaves the barrel since it's another part hanging along side the barrel?

Some nice looking M1's Schuetz.

It affects the M1's because it touches the barrel and screws up the barrel harmonics. Plus most of these bayonets shake around quite a bit, they don't fit tight. The Mk IV seems to fit pretty tight.

BTW, it's one Garand with each bayonet placed on it one at a time. LOL! But thanks anyway.:D

A tight fitting M1 type bayonet on a Springfield rifle OTOH often doesn't do much to it's accuracy. I have a Rock Island 03 that when I put the M1 from my photos on it I can still hit a man sized popup silhouette at 500 yards without a change of zero oddly enough. :cool: