Gun Control repeals

[KYGun]

Maybe this is getting way caught up in a fantasy, or dream, but does anyone think that it is possible that the Assault weapons ban and all these little nit picky laws WILL ever be repealed? Wouldn't that be great, but first of all, we all need to voice our opinion and let it be know to our congressman of our intentions for this to be changed. Let's not give up on it happening.

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Keep on shooting, KYGun

[Floyd]

The '94 "assault weapons" ban was voted down by the House, but there was no support in the Senate. So we can make a difference. If enough of us get involved.

Where you at in KY? Where's Jamestown? I'm originally from London, KY.

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[This message has been edited by Floyd (edited September 14, 1999).]

[Fred S]

Don't both "assault weapons" bans sunset around 2004-6?

[KYGun]

I hadn't heard of that Fred. Tell us more.

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Keep on shooting, KYGun

[Destroyer]

It's kinda like a driver's license, they have the option to let it go or renue it in a couple of years (think 2004?).

[KYGun]

Well from hearing that, maybe there is hope after all. "IF" we take part in helping it along.

[KYGun]

I hadn't thought about it that way LAGun. Maybe the Y2K crap will erase em off the books, but I think they'd still be in effect regardless ya know?

[recon]

It`s true about the sunset law on the 94 ban. 2004 it expires if they don`t do something to extend it.

[LAgunman2K-3]

i Seriously DOUBT there is a time limit on any gun control measure the only being the brady bulls**t and thats cuz it made way for the instant check
our only hope is Y2K will HIT and ERASE all the gun laws on the books
ok back to reality
load up for the LONG haul the iceberg has hit and we've only seen the tip at least here in PRK see ya--from the Occupied Area of LA

[Bryant]

Just like the sunset of Federal Income Tax to support the war effort is now common law, remember the tax forms used to say "thank you for your contrabution."

[dZ]

Shoot Out On Capitol Hill Results In Conflicting Messages
--but pro-gun leaders win key, though symbolic, victory

Gun Owners of America E-Mail/FAX Alert
8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102, Springfield, VA 22151
Phone: 703-321-8585 / FAX: 703-321-8408 http://www.gunowners.org


(Friday, September 24, 1999) -- Supporters of gun rights in the
House of Representatives charged the floor today with an arsenal of
high-powered arguments in defense of 2nd Amendment liberties. Led
by Rep. John Doolittle (R-CA), pro-gun Republicans defied their
leadership in presenting an extremely cogent case in defense of our
freedoms.

"It's not the right of the army," Doolittle roared. "It's not the
right of the National Guard." The Second Amendment "says 'the right
of the people'-- [it's] an individual right."

Doolittle cited constitutional authorities from James Madison to
Laurence Tribe in making his point that the Second Amendment
protects an individual right. He also quoted the highly acclaimed
Dr. John Lott in making the simple point that "more guns equal less
crime," as he waved a copy of Lott's new book for the cameras.


GOA On The Front Lines

In anticipation of this floor fight, lobbyists from Gun Owners of
America yesterday provided pro-gun offices with dozens of
self-defense incidents from this year alone. Pro-gun Rep. Helen
Chenoweth (R-ID) took the list and read self-defense example after
example on the floor of the U.S. House of Representatives.

"The stories go on and on," Mrs. Chenoweth concluded. "In fact, a
1997 Clinton Justice Department study found that as many as 1.5
million people use a gun in self-defense every year."

The anti-gun side could offer no rebuttal to this point.
Regardless, they remained entrenched in opposing the motion made by
Rep. Doolittle. His motion instructs House negotiators to drop any
provision that infringes on the 2nd Amendment rights of
individuals-- provisions like the ban on private sales at gun shows,
which can only be surmounted by the buyer's submitting to a
background registration check; a new gun ban for young adults; an
import ban on magazines holding more than 10 rounds; etc.

The Doolittle motion passed overwhelmingly by a vote of 337-73.
Also, an earlier motion instructing the conferees to work every day
until they reach an agreement on the crime bill was narrowly
defeated. However, representatives then sent a "conflicting"
message when they voted to instruct the conference members (241-167)
to include gun show registration checks in the final version of the
bill. The latter motion, offered by Zoe Lofgren of California,
directly contradicts the Doolittle motion. While contradictory
messages are not unique on Capitol Hill, one should realize that all
of the motions were non-binding. The conferees could report a gun
bill out of committee as early as next week, or not at all if
sufficient opposition from gun owners is heard.


GOP And Democratic Leaders United In Their Support For Gun Control

Republican leaders like Rep. Bill McCollum (R-FL) took the floor to
explain that he and many other members of the House want to impose
the instant registration check at gun shows. House Judiciary
Chairman, Henry Hyde (R-IL), also echoed similar opinions yesterday.

On the Democratic side, the anti-gunners were led by Rep. Lofgren
(D-CA). She argued that the 2nd Amendment does not protect an
individual right, and that the anti-gun crime bill which is
currently in conference does not conflict with the Second Amendment.

ACTION: Please thank those members of Congress who spoke up so
eloquently in the defense of the 2nd Amendment right to keep and
bear arms. They are Representatives Doolittle, Chenoweth, Roscoe
Bartlett (R-MD), and John Hostettler (R-IN).

Contact Info:

House of Representatives
Ph: 888-449-3511 or 202-225-3121

Rep. John Doolittle (CA-4th)
Ph: 202-225-2511
Fax: 202-225-5444
E-mail: doolittle@mail.house.gov

Rep. Helen Chenoweth (ID-1st)
Ph: 202-225-6611
Fax: 202-225-3029
E-mail: ask.helen@mail.house.gov

Rep. Roscoe Bartlett (MD-6th)
Ph: 202-225-2721
Fax: 202-225-2193
No e-mail

Rep. John Hostettler (IN-8th)
Ph: 202-225-4636
Fax: 202-225-3284
E-mail: John.Hostettler@mail.house.gov

[mrak1289x]

If all the anti-gunners would just watch the movie's Schiendler's List and Escape from Sobibor, maybe they would change their mind on private ownership of firearms. Bceause if the New World Order Communits get our guns then the same thing can and will happen here in the USA.

[Albert]

I looked up the 1994 federal assault weapon ban and high capacity magazine ban and sure enough they say that they expire or "sunset" on Sept. 13 2004 unless Congress extends them or passes a new law altogether. If we're lucky, Congress won't remember this fact or the 2004 Congress won't want to extend the law. This is certainly more likely than Congress repealing any existing gun control laws. So, there is hope if we can hold out for 5 more years.

[Tekkaman]

So there might be some hope!! I sure hope so cause then I can get a sweet AK 8-D

[Jay_S]

Call me cynical, but I can't help but think that we'll EVER see a complete reversal of gun regulations (except perhaps springing from the barrel of a gun), if only for the fact that all these ridiculous restrictions inflate the price of "pre-ban" weapons and magazines, which fatten the coffers of dealers.

Think of it this way: how many of you would be thrilled to see the guns you paid $1000+ for decrease in value 50%+ overnight? Or if you're a dealer, do you think you could get away with charging such outrageous prices when the "supply and demand" scale tips back toward the other extreme (or should I say, a more realistic balance)?

[WAREAGLE]

I WOULD be thrilled because that means I could afford to buy more! If I were just buying for the resale value, I'd be in real estate or something. When I buy, I keep.

[KYGunz]

Amen to that WAREAGLE! In my so many years of buying guns, I can count on one hand how many I've traded off. Very very few that is. Any gun I've bought I get attached to and it becomes part of my LOCK STOCK AND BARREL family that is my gun collection. LOL

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keep on Shooting, KYGunz

[LAgunman2K-3]

if your dumb enough to pay 2-3 times the wholesale price for a gun to some price gouging dealer then too bad if the market falls out and you lose money when it comes time to trade or sell your gun

[raven]

I more than anyone hope that the 94 law sunsets, but I'm pessimistic.

Who knows if we'll have a republican president? But I can guarantee we'll have a democratic congress by 2001. Add that to the general public disapproval of assault rifles, and I can assure you the ban WILL be extended.