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sumo
09-21-1999, 12:42 AM
What are your thoughts?

47 year old Larry Gene Ashbrook, prior to his murderous rampage at Wedgewood Baptist Church in Fort Worth, wrote a letter to the editor of the Fort Worth Star Telegram, the local rag. In it he writes of encounters with the CIA, psychological warfare, being drugged by police and other almost unbelievable claims.

Read the story at http://www.apbnews.com/newscenter/breakingnews/1999/09/17/church0917pm_01.html

Do the words "mind control" ring a bell?


[This message has been edited by sumo (edited September 20, 1999).]

WAREAGLE
09-21-1999, 01:09 AM
The words Paranoid Schizophrenia ring a bell! Read my post under Innocents killed in Fort Worth massacre. This just confirms my suspicions that the guy was psychotic. Textbook case.

Necron99
09-21-1999, 04:44 AM
Like I said of the mass shootings that I've followed, a large percentage of them have seen clinical psycholigists (often government psych units) and been administered psychotropic drugs. The most notable one I can think of is the guy that went on a rampage at Fairchild Airforce Base in Spokane about four or five years ago. I think alot of these shootings are just nutballs going out with a bang. The media doesn't help whenn they make a field day out of every mass shooting out there. The massive press coverage gives these suicidal sickos more incentive to go out in the proverbial "blaze of glory" or gory as the case may be. Kind of like the copycat killer phenomenon.

LAgunman2K-3
09-21-1999, 06:08 AM
your right on the money- Necron99- about the press helping to cause these rampages i think the press causes more deaths than guns through constant exploitation of all these shootings and the victims for there own ratings and financial gain and then they turn around and blame guns for the crap they partialy cause gun owners and city mayors should sue ABC,NBC,CBS and all the others that exploitate these things they can tell about it on the news and NOT show images of it and not talk about day after day for weeks at the recent shooting in LA they brought out the helicopters the next day to view the kids going to the school next door cuz the cops blocked the streets from all media traffic HELICOPTERS TO VEIW KIDS GOING TO SCHOOL --these people make me sick another media event in LA back in 1992 the LA RIOTS nuff said

sumo
09-21-1999, 05:16 PM
WAREAGLE, I agree with your diagnosis; I never suggested otherwise. My point is that there are people who suffer from paranoid schizophrenia, or could, that have a perfect susceptibility to suggestion.

The CIA have profiled people such as this and have or are currently experimenting with them, knowingly and unbeknownst.

When I say mind control, I don't mean remote control. Press a button and someone loses it. This situation in not fundamentally different as an agent provocateur insighting a passionate person to take action. Directly or indirectly, as in suggestion or device.

What I am adamant about is the clandestine efforts of the fedgov to undermine our rights, and they will take whatever measures to further their cause. Including murder.

WAREAGLE
09-21-1999, 08:19 PM
Sumo, Sorry if my post came off as argumentative. The new developments that you shed light on just brought out the diagnostician in me. http://www.ak-47.net/akcgi/wink.gif

I do agree that our government is just as dirty and underhanded as any on the planet, if not more so. And I do believe they will exploit any avenue they can to get their agenda accomplished, but in this case, I feel the guy was just mentally ill. Just MHO.

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sumo
09-22-1999, 02:28 AM
Well, WAREAGLE, when we and the Brothers are in the hills defending the final vestiges of the Constitution, "they" make think the same of us.

ramius
09-23-1999, 01:39 AM
Just had a thought after reading the posts... one of those epiphany moments.

I was just thinking about how the US has centralized the government, and how the states and localities are less powerful. Then I was reading the posts about the media and I started to see that the two events coincide.

The media has taken the US and turned it into a large community. I'm not talking about national interests... I'm talking about something that originally would be a state matter, but through national coverage became a national event and therefore a reason for federal legislators to act.

The French (the greatest surrenderers the world has ever known) call the media the 'fourth estate.' There's a darn good reason for that. They have immediate input on what's important. And by illustrating what's important, they influence what politicians view as priorities.

Now think of the US without national media... everything except foreign relations would be a matter for the state to handle.

I'm kind of thinking out loud here... anyone care to jump in?



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-ramius...
right wing extremist gun nut
...and proud of it.

sumo
09-24-1999, 01:55 AM
It is the aim of globalists to turn the world into a "village" they control. The media is a fundamental device of that effort and is used by players and constituents alike.

Big businesses are the main players in the media as the media is itself a business. They pursue their interests with or without exterior support. Politicians participate if their agendas are compatible with business interests. In this case, they accrue favors. Politicians are also allowed to pursue minor agendas if they play by the rules, accruing debts. It’s very much a leverage-based barter system with no conscience.

It is this instrument, as ramius so observes, that manipulates issues of local concern to a national or international level, thereby defeating the jurisdictional process.

The primary goal at the political level is to incrementally shift the power process to a select few. By abrogating jurisdiction to higher authority, the representative process is defeated, resulting in tyranny.

The media is an integral part of the architecture that makes this possible. It does, in fact, make the world a "village". The "village" mentality requires consolidation of powers and interests for our own sake; that we are unable to govern ourselves effectively. Politicians, catering to global interests, would have us believe that this is the way it should be.

Consider this argument on the consolidation basis alone. While we are being manipulated by the media concerning exterior issues such as the loss of rights and state of affairs, the powers that be are consolidating their internal positions in the business markets right under our noses. During the last 36 months, the 20+ largest corporate mergers in the history of the world took place.

While the media "smoke screen" has the rapt attention of most of the world, the forces of evil further their cause. The consolidation of power, both political and business, is proof the global conspiracy is strengthening.

The media is the court jester, the spin doctor, the front man for this conspiracy. They cloud the issues and deflect responsibility with their eloquent half-truths. And for this, they will burn.

I say, let the bastards play out their hand. In the end, with God on our side, we’ll win.

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And don’t forget. Go for the head shot. They wear body armor.

RRK
09-24-1999, 02:13 AM
Sumo, interesting times we live in don't you think. Just like the Book foretold.

WAREAGLE
09-24-1999, 02:22 AM
Down to the last prophecy.

sumo
09-25-1999, 12:45 AM
Amen, Brothers. Amen.