Check out the eclectic weapons in this pic....

tank_monkey · 05-07-2008, 04:07 AM

Talk about a 'varied' grouping of gun types.

Oh, and by the way, if you were curious about the context, here is a short blurb from the article....

Quote:

Africa’s most Appalling Tyranny Tumbles! As direct and logical consequence of Dictator Meles Zenawi’s atrocious deeds in Ogaden, a great number of Ogadeni youth joined recently the military branch of the ONLF, the Ogaden National Liberation Front. They were left with no choice.

So apparently these are Ogadeni minority tribespeople who are being killed by the majority tribes in Somalia. They arm themselves to keep from being slaughtered. Makes sense to me..... Oh yes, but banning guns keeps people safe ....

**Schuetzenman** · 05-07-2008, 06:58 AM

Preaching to the choir don't cha know.

**deth502** · 05-07-2008, 07:28 AM

looks like a lot of us weapons there.

m-14, m-16

wtf is that thing with the ridges on the top of the bbl??

**NextGen** · 05-07-2008, 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deth502

looks like a lot of us weapons there.

m-14, m-16

wtf is that thing with the ridges on the top of the bbl??

i was curious about that as well..but i have no clue.

wasnt expecting a sturmgewehr

Richard Simmons · 05-07-2008, 08:50 AM

Looks like an STG*44, M14, Hakim, Carcano, M16 and I believe the subgun with the funky barrel and twin triggers is Italian

jhawk · 05-07-2008, 09:22 AM

Italian subgun, carcano rifle...lots of Italian weapons in Ethiopia and surrounding area. This is an old pic from Ogden, Eritrea, Ethiopian, conflict in the 70's if memory serves.

**Fishpaw** · 05-07-2008, 10:07 AM

That gun with the ridges also appears to have a series of holes drilled into the barrel.

**KalashniKEV** · 05-07-2008, 12:24 PM

Don't forget the VZ-58, handguardless M16, & Mauser...

**1 Patriot-of-many** · 05-07-2008, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tank_monkey

Talk about a 'varied' grouping of gun types.

Oh, and by the way, if you were curious about the context, here is a short blurb from the article....

So apparently these are Ogadeni minority tribespeople who are being killed by the majority tribes in Somalia. They arm themselves to keep from being slaughtered. Makes sense to me..... Oh yes, but banning guns keeps people safe ....

Sad thing is the UN does all it can to keep the guns from the victims while allowing the tyrants and despots full control and free access.

tank_monkey · 05-07-2008, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deth502

looks like a lot of us weapons there.

m-14, m-16

wtf is that thing with the ridges on the top of the bbl??

Are you sure it's not a Beretta Mod38 with notches cut into the heat shield?

Richard Simmons · 05-07-2008, 01:26 PM

Yep that's it. Missing the magazine

schwensen · 05-07-2008, 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KalashniKEV

Don't forget the VZ-58, handguardless M16, & Mauser...

That is not a "handguardless" M16--if you look you can see a wood buttstock and front handguard further down. I believe it is a french MAS 49/56 auto.

Richard Simmons · 05-07-2008, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schwensen

That is not a "handguardless" M16--if you look you can see a wood buttstock and front handguard further down. I believe it is a french MAS 49/56 auto.

Yep, your right. Of all people I should have caught that one. Good eye

**Vorkutinetz** · 05-07-2008, 02:18 PM

Damn. Supplying the ammo to that group would be complicated to say the least

**The original full otto** · 05-07-2008, 02:44 PM

No one's mentioned the big sticks, knife and what appears to be a flamingo yard ornament.

**RIGHTWINGJOE** · 05-07-2008, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tank_monkey

Are you sure it's not a Beretta Mod38 with notches cut into the heat shield?

You'd have to ask Ms. Anti-gun from NY.... She'd know.

**deth502** · 05-07-2008, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tank_monkey

Are you sure it's not a Beretta Mod38 with notches cut into the heat shield?

i was just looking at it again and noticed the holes in the bottom, then i realized you were seeing through the vent holes in the shroud making it look that way, and knew right away is was a beretta 38.

then i scrolled down and see that it was figured out already!!

better late than never, i guess.

parabellum · 05-07-2008, 04:13 PM

Drooling for the STG44! Can we makeup an humanitarian mission? we can exchange all their old and rusty weapons in odd calibers with an equal number of freshly produced saiga in 7.62!

CGSteve · 05-07-2008, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parabellum

Drooling for the STG44! Can we makeup an humanitarian mission? we can exchange all their old and rusty weapons in odd calibers with an equal number of freshly produced saiga in 7.62!

Hell yeah, I'd put on a blue helmet for that.

BISHOP · 05-07-2008, 06:33 PM

But- but she has a priceless STG44. and I bet it hasn't been oiled and cleaned and loved. Just shot and let to rust and get full of sand and grime...

BISHOP

silicon wolverine · 05-08-2008, 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The original full otto

No one's mentioned the big sticks, knife and what appears to be a flamingo yard ornament.

Death by flamingo. thats be embarrassing to have on your death certificate.

SW

tank_monkey · 05-08-2008, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vorkutinetz

Damn. Supplying the ammo to that group would be complicated to say the least

I remember an old African bush wars vet (former Selous Scout, now retired in Huntington Beach, CA, I used to see him at the gunshows) saying once that he tried to give some quick training to some indigenous militias in a hot zone once, and all the "soldiers" had different calibers ... a good THIRD Of them had no mags or rounds that fit the firearm and nearly all of them only had either one magazine or a handful of rounds for their guns.

What's sad is that we have people really being targeted and eliminated in tribal genocide .... and they'd be SAFE if they had even a FRACTION Of the members of this board watching their backs .... now that's a sad thought.

I gotta buy some more ammo.

**Vorkutinetz** · 05-08-2008, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tank_monkey

I remember an old African bush wars vet (former Selous Scout, now retired in Huntington Beach, CA, I used to see him at the gunshows) saying once that he tried to give some quick training to some indigenous militias in a hot zone once, and all the "soldiers" had different calibers ... a good THIRD Of them had no mags or rounds that fit the firearm and nearly all of them only had either one magazine or a handful of rounds for their guns.

damn

just damn...

raxar · 05-08-2008, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhawk

Italian subgun, carcano rifle...lots of Italian weapons in Ethiopia and surrounding area. This is an old pic from Ogden, Eritrea, Ethiopian, conflict in the 70's if memory serves.

I believe that the italians were sent in to take over Ethiopia early in WW2.

Willis P. Dunlevey · 05-08-2008, 08:24 PM

it looks like there are two VZ-52s (with blade bayonets) in the pic as well

retromullet · 05-08-2008, 08:27 PM

Wow, STG...STG...STG....

Those poor people..but...STG...STG..

silicon wolverine · 05-08-2008, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tank_monkey

I remember an old African bush wars vet (former Selous Scout, now retired in Huntington Beach, CA, I used to see him at the gunshows) saying once that he tried to give some quick training to some indigenous militias in a hot zone once, and all the "soldiers" had different calibers ... a good THIRD Of them had no mags or rounds that fit the firearm and nearly all of them only had either one magazine or a handful of rounds for their guns.

What's sad is that we have people really being targeted and eliminated in tribal genocide .... and they'd be SAFE if they had even a FRACTION Of the members of this board watching their backs .... now that's a sad thought.

I gotta buy some more ammo.

possibly use of the "butter knife" principal. why waste a steak knife when a butter knife will do the job? You give soldiers guns that lack mags or any quantity of ammo, let them go shoot a enemy and take his AK after hes dead. You dont need tons of high grade weapons to arm a fighting force.

SW

**KOOLASHNIKOV** · 05-09-2008, 09:33 AM

Powerful picture. Looks like mostly young females trying to defend themselves with whatever they can to avoid becoming the enemies slave property after the majority of their tribes men are dead/missing.

Young females in the USA tend to get weak and break down if they can't have the latest high tech cell phone, fashionable clothing item, or miss a single episode of American Idol. God help us if TSHTF here.

**Krupski** · 05-09-2008, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tank_monkey

Oh yes, but banning guns keeps people safe ....

Banning guns keeps TYRANTS safe.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RIGHTWINGJOE

You'd have to ask Ms. Anti-gun from NY.... She'd know.

You beat me to it. Carolyn "Handguard" McCarthy!

Quote:

Originally Posted by BISHOP

But- but she has a priceless STG44. and I bet it hasn't been oiled and cleaned and loved. Just shot and let to rust and get full of sand and grime...

BISHOP

That STG44 doesn't look bad... or rusty. A little Hoppes #9 and a little CLP and it would be just fine.

**KalashniKEV** · 05-09-2008, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schwensen

That is not a "handguardless" M16--if you look you can see a wood buttstock and front handguard further down. I believe it is a french MAS 49/56 auto.

Nice catch, Homey!

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Richard Simmons Registered User Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: VA Posts: 20,084	Yep that's it. Missing the magazine __________________ With a brain you are prepared for LIFE. With a brain and a gun you are prepared to LIVE.

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05-07-2008, 07:28 AM	#3
deth502 Team AK-47.NET ™ 11/08 Join Date: May 2007 Location: PA Posts: 5,482	looks like a lot of us weapons there. m-14, m-16 wtf is that thing with the ridges on the top of the bbl??

05-07-2008, 09:22 AM	#6
jhawk Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 280	Italian subgun, carcano rifle...lots of Italian weapons in Ethiopia and surrounding area. This is an old pic from Ogden, Eritrea, Ethiopian, conflict in the 70's if memory serves.

05-07-2008, 10:07 AM	#7
Fishpaw Team AK-47.NET ™ 12/08 Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,597	That gun with the ridges also appears to have a series of holes drilled into the barrel.

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parabellum Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: now inTX Posts: 453	Drooling for the STG44! Can we makeup an humanitarian mission? we can exchange all their old and rusty weapons in odd calibers with an equal number of freshly produced saiga in 7.62!

05-07-2008, 06:33 PM	#20
BISHOP Registered User Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Maine "The way Life Should be" Posts: 5,227	But- but she has a priceless STG44. and I bet it hasn't been oiled and cleaned and loved. Just shot and let to rust and get full of sand and grime... BISHOP __________________ "The rusty wire, that holds the cork, that keeps the anger in, gives way...."

05-08-2008, 08:24 PM	#25
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05-08-2008, 08:27 PM	#26
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05-09-2008, 09:33 AM	#28
KOOLASHNIKOV Contributor 12/08 Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,213	Powerful picture. Looks like mostly young females trying to defend themselves with whatever they can to avoid becoming the enemies slave property after the majority of their tribes men are dead/missing. Young females in the USA tend to get weak and break down if they can't have the latest high tech cell phone, fashionable clothing item, or miss a single episode of American Idol. God help us if TSHTF here.

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