Does anyone weigh and sort their .22 ammo?

Poodleshooter · 09-20-2003, 09:19 PM

Does anyone weigh and sort their rimfire ammo?
Has anyone tested weighed and sorted ammo vs. unsorted ammunition?
Has anyone ever incorporated rim thickness or other factors into creating batches of superior ammo from bargain ammo?

**awp101** · 09-21-2003, 09:30 AM

I've thought about it, but have never done it.

I usually shoot the bulk pack Rem and Win so it may be worth a shot.

swingset · 09-24-2003, 05:33 AM

Oh yeah, I do it all the time.

I found, using Remington Golden Bullets for example, that when I sorted them and isolated the rounds with the exact same weight (+-.05 gr) and then further isolated by OAL & case thickness that I effectively halved my group sizes. Out of my Ruger 77/22 the normal golden bullets were averaging a .475" group, but when I sorted I got down to a .265" group.

Granted, it took weighing and measuring over half the box to get 20 rounds, but if you're wanting accuracy cheap, it's worth considering.

I usually only do this on bulk pack ammo because with something like Tenex, there's so very little variance that I don't think it will help.

I know a guy I competed against measures Wolf Match Extra and he said he found some discrepancies and eliminated the infamous "Wolf Flyer" by doing so, but I haven't tried it with Wolf yet so that's hearsay.

**Hondo** · 10-07-2003, 09:15 PM

yes I have tried it, I have sorted Federal Target and Winchester T22. It actually made a difference weighing the bullets, but a friend lent me a rim thickness gauge and that really seemed to be the key (in my case anyway).

Some guys I know will weigh and check rims on the high end ammo and they shoot great scores...me I'm not into it THAT much and not to mention that I'm lazy too.

SBF · 10-07-2003, 09:56 PM

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Originally posted by Barbarosa
...me I'm not into it THAT much and not to mention that I'm lazy too.

Me either

If I'm plinkin', I shoot plinkin' ammo, usually federal bulk pack stuff. If I'm going for groups I'll use what ever quality ammo my specific gun shoots best with. It is kinda hard to remember what ammo shoots best in what gun though, I should really keep a log.

Nah, I'm too lazy for that too

Poodleshooter · 10-10-2003, 09:58 AM

Lazy mans log:
I keep paper targets that i've shot. I list ammo, rifle, distance and conditions on the face of the target. I three hole punch it when I return home from the range, and toss it in a folder.
I've got a collection of 10rd group tests of my 10/22 @25yds sorted in that fashion. They reference about 10-12 different types of ammo raning from Winchester Xperts to Federal Gold Medal match.
I'm going to try something similar with sorted bulk pack ammo, cross referenced with unsorted ammo of identical lots.
Hopefully I'll be able to post pics.

Klutz347 · 04-06-2004, 12:42 AM

for plinking and blasting- no I don't.

For Bench Rest shooting I sort by rim thickness only. I haven't gotten anal enough to do it by weight (yet).

09-20-2003, 09:19 PM	#1
Poodleshooter Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Location: Floating down the James River in VA Posts: 2,439	Does anyone weigh and sort their .22 ammo? Does anyone weigh and sort their rimfire ammo? Has anyone tested weighed and sorted ammo vs. unsorted ammunition? Has anyone ever incorporated rim thickness or other factors into creating batches of superior ammo from bargain ammo? __________________ I put the "fun" in fundamentalist! "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." -C.S. Lewis Visit the GunsNet Rimfire Forums Guns Network Discussion Websites & AK-47.net BOTH have recently recevied a 5-STAR rating from Shotgun News - 10/6/2003 issue! Do you get value out of this site? Contributions to gunsnet start at $5 with benefits kicking in at $20. Check here to see those benefits: <a href="http://www.ak-47.net/store/memupgde.htm?">MEMBERSHIP UPGRADE CENTER</a>

09-21-2003, 09:30 AM	#2
awp101 Professional Smartass/IYDKMIGTHTKY & Team GunsNet 06/08 Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: DeeDee Snavely's Used Guns and Weapons Posts: 21,247	I've thought about it, but have never done it. I usually shoot the bulk pack Rem and Win so it may be worth a shot. __________________ Never Say Die! Everything Louder Than Everything Else Spreading the Cult of the Little Bullet: Rimfire World ********************** The Python is probably the better combat arm, but once you run out of bullets nothing screams "pistol whip" like an N-frame. C'thulhu '12! Why settle for the lesser Evil?

09-24-2003, 05:33 AM	#3
swingset Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Ohio Posts: 5,133	Oh yeah, I do it all the time. I found, using Remington Golden Bullets for example, that when I sorted them and isolated the rounds with the exact same weight (+-.05 gr) and then further isolated by OAL & case thickness that I effectively halved my group sizes. Out of my Ruger 77/22 the normal golden bullets were averaging a .475" group, but when I sorted I got down to a .265" group. Granted, it took weighing and measuring over half the box to get 20 rounds, but if you're wanting accuracy cheap, it's worth considering. I usually only do this on bulk pack ammo because with something like Tenex, there's so very little variance that I don't think it will help. I know a guy I competed against measures Wolf Match Extra and he said he found some discrepancies and eliminated the infamous "Wolf Flyer" by doing so, but I haven't tried it with Wolf yet so that's hearsay. __________________ "The Earth is degenerating today. Bribery and corruption abound. Children no longer obey their parents, every man wants to write a book, and it is evident that the end of the world is fast approaching." Assyrian tablet, c. 2800 BC

10-10-2003, 09:58 AM	#6
Poodleshooter Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Location: Floating down the James River in VA Posts: 2,439	Lazy mans log: I keep paper targets that i've shot. I list ammo, rifle, distance and conditions on the face of the target. I three hole punch it when I return home from the range, and toss it in a folder. I've got a collection of 10rd group tests of my 10/22 @25yds sorted in that fashion. They reference about 10-12 different types of ammo raning from Winchester Xperts to Federal Gold Medal match. I'm going to try something similar with sorted bulk pack ammo, cross referenced with unsorted ammo of identical lots. Hopefully I'll be able to post pics. __________________ I put the "fun" in fundamentalist! "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." -C.S. Lewis Visit the GunsNet Rimfire Forums Guns Network Discussion Websites & AK-47.net BOTH have recently recevied a 5-STAR rating from Shotgun News - 10/6/2003 issue! Do you get value out of this site? Contributions to gunsnet start at $5 with benefits kicking in at $20. Check here to see those benefits: <a href="http://www.ak-47.net/store/memupgde.htm?">MEMBERSHIP UPGRADE CENTER</a>

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10-07-2003, 09:15 PM	#4
Hondo Moderator & Team AK-47.NET ™ 04/08 Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Texas where if you kill someone we will kill you back Posts: 13,014	yes I have tried it, I have sorted Federal Target and Winchester T22. It actually made a difference weighing the bullets, but a friend lent me a rim thickness gauge and that really seemed to be the key (in my case anyway). Some guys I know will weigh and check rims on the high end ammo and they shoot great scores...me I'm not into it THAT much and not to mention that I'm lazy too.

04-06-2004, 12:42 AM	#7
Klutz347 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Mi Posts: 134	for plinking and blasting- no I don't. For Bench Rest shooting I sort by rim thickness only. I haven't gotten anal enough to do it by weight (yet).