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    Belt loaders

    We are also looking for 1 or more used belt loaders for 12.7 x 108 and 23 x 152 B mm belt loading machines as these quantities are too small to justify a U.S. import ourselves. We will also buy or trade for some of our new production PKM links.
    Last edited by Pathfinder; 05-10-2017 at 08:05 PM.

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    Belt loaders

    We are also looking for 1 or more used belt loaders for 12.7 x 108 and 23 x 152 B mm belt loading machines as these quantities are too small to justify a U.S. import ourselves. We will also buy or trade for some of our new production PKM links.
    Last edited by Pathfinder; 05-10-2017 at 08:05 PM.

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    Belt loaders

    We are also looking for 1 or more used belt loaders for 12.7 x 108 and 23 x 152 B mm belt loading machines as these quantities are too small to justify a U.S. import ourselves. We will also buy or trade for some of our new production PKM links.
    Last edited by Pathfinder; 05-10-2017 at 08:04 PM.

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    Belt loaders

    We are also looking for 1 or more used belt loaders for 12.7 x 108 and 23 x 152 B mm belt loading machines as these quantities are too small to justify a U.S. import ourselves. We will also buy or trade for some of our new production PKM links.
    Last edited by Pathfinder; 05-10-2017 at 08:03 PM.

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    Belt loaders

    We are also looking for 1 or more used belt loaders for 12.7 x 108 and 23 x 152 B mm belt loading machines as these quantities are too small to justify a U.S. import ourselves. We will also buy or trade for some of our new production PKM links.
    Last edited by Pathfinder; 05-10-2017 at 08:03 PM.

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    Belt loaders

    We are also looking for 1 or more used belt loaders for 12.7 x 108 and 23 x 152 B mm belt loading machines as these quantities are too small to justify a U.S. import ourselves. We will also buy or trade for some of our new production PKM links.
    Last edited by Pathfinder; 05-10-2017 at 08:02 PM.

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    Half of our PKM link inventory now sold

    Half of our PKM link inventory is gone, and the balance is subject to prior sale to the first confirmed orders. When this is is gone further production is subject to production availability behind others orders on a first come, first served basis

    For more information

    http://cainalongbranch.com/pkm_links

    Limited amount of new production 200rd and 250rd steel PKM cans remaining in our American depot

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    Half of our PKM link inventory now sold

    Half of our PKM link inventory now sold as of 3rd January 2017, and the balance is subject to prior sale to the first confirmed orders. When this is gone further production is subject to production availability behind others orders on a first come, first served basis

    For more information & current inventory updates

    The Company that bought from us before and selling by the belt is no longer supplying new links as far as we know, but was known to find counterfeit links in the US that was reported to the FBI. Buyer Beware

    https://cainalongbranch.com/PKM_Links.html

    Limited amount of new production 200rd and 250rd steel PKM cans remaining in our American depot
    Last edited by Pathfinder; 04-19-2022 at 04:18 PM. Reason: Correction

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    Half of our PKM link inventory now sold as of 3rd January 2017

    Half of our PKM link inventory now sold as of 3rd January 2017, and the balance is subject to prior sale to the first confirmed orders. When this is gone further production is subject to production availability behind others orders on a first come, first served basis

    For more information & current inventory updates

    https://cainalongbranch.com/PKM_Links.html

    Also, a limited amount of new production 200rd and 250rd steel PKM cans remaining in our American depot
    Last edited by Pathfinder; 04-19-2022 at 04:19 PM. Reason: typo

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    Counterfeit PKM Link Fraud Warning

    We just received information this week that cases of supposedly new Eastern Standard* PKM links have appeared on the market in the United States in wooden cases that are the same or similar to ours, but we know for a fact that these are not our new production links, and in wooden cases like ours. The plastic bags they are packed in also are slightly different from ours and if you do a direct comparison of these links to our new to ours they are different.

    We are working to gather more information, but it appears they may be used 1960s Chinese Production that circulate the market that have been refinished and fraudulently passed off as new production, or Eastern European scrap that were sold as scrap metal for smelting, and instead were covertly diverted, refinished and falsely sold as new production PKM links. Forged certificates are offered in some cases and we are trying to ascertain if certificates are also included with this lot.

    Sometimes these worn out links are also sold separately or hidden in with good ammunition that is qualified but the PKM links are not. If the links fail, the out of tolerance or slightly bent link will seize ammunition in the belt or drops cartridge out of the belt with a worn/oversize link. New Production combat qualified Eastern Standard PKM links can be potentially re-used technically up to 10 times in ideal conditions as they are stronger than one use only Nato/Mil Spec links , but not in this case. In either case with these used or surface refinished PKM links both the gun and ammunition can fail in battle and people will die, and operations will be compromised. This will not be the first time when American programs or programs for the Afghans and Iraqi government are being cheated as they are not Eastern Standard specialists. We have been involved with and embedded in Eastern Europe going back to 1986, and speak with some authority.

    You are welcome to compare our links to these counterfeits and judge for yourselves. If you inspect these bargains in painful detail your people will probably see that these “new links”, while refinished, may have marks of being used, damaged or worn out and our out of spec. Like counterfeit or refinished used aircraft arts that cause aviation accidents these worn out PKM links can also be lethal, and compromise operations. Our first obligation is to the people in the field who are engaged in the fighting, the killing and the dying on our behalf. This “profit over people” is a profoundly disloyal act against the people in the field

    Semper Fidelis

    * Sometimes also called NSA or Non-Standard Ammunition in the United States. This is considered a derogatory term in Eastern Europe and we refuse to use this term as a result

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    Counterfeit PKM link fraud warning

    We just received information last week that cases of supposedly new Eastern Standard* PKM links have appeared on the market in the United States in wooden cases that are the same or similar to ours, but we know for a fact that these are not our new production links, and in wooden cases like ours. The plastic bags they are packed in also are slightly different from ours and if you do a direct comparison of these links to our new to ours they are different.

    We are working to gather more information, but it appears they may be used 1960s Chinese Production that circulate the market that have been refinished and fraudulently passed off as new production, or Eastern European scrap that were sold as scrap metal for smelting, and instead were covertly diverted, refinished and falsely sold as new production PKM links. Forged certificates are offered in some cases and we are trying to ascertain if certificates are also included with this lot.

    Sometimes these worn out links are also sold separately or hidden in with good ammunition that is qualified but the PKM links are not. If the links fail, the out of tolerance or slightly bent link will seize ammunition in the belt or drops cartridge out of the belt with a worn/oversize link. New Production combat qualified Eastern Standard PKM links can be potentially re-used technically up to 10 times in ideal conditions as they are stronger than one use only Nato/Mil Spec links , but not in this case. In either case with these used or surface refinished PKM links both the gun and ammunition can fail in battle and people will die, and operations will be compromised. This will not be the first time when American programs or programs for the Afghans and Iraqi government are being cheated as they are not Eastern Standard specialists. We have been involved with and embedded in Eastern Europe going back to 1986, and speak with some authority.

    You are welcome to compare our links to these counterfeits and judge for yourselves. If you inspect these bargains in painful detail your people will probably see that these “new links”, while refinished, may have marks of being used, damaged or worn out and our out of spec. Like counterfeit or refinished used aircraft arts that cause aviation accidents these worn out PKM links can also be lethal, and compromise operations. Our first obligation is to the people in the field who are engaged in the fighting, the killing and the dying on our behalf. This “profit over people” is a profoundly disloyal act against the people in the field

    Semper Fidelis

    * Sometimes also called NSA or Non-Standard Ammunition in the United States. This is considered a derogatory term in Eastern Europe and we refuse to use this term as a result

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    Counterfeit PKM link fraud warning Update 10th Feb 2017

    This matter has gone from Armed Forces CID (criminal investigation division) to BATF and the FBI who has offered to investigate. Our serious concern is that if counterfeit/defective PKM links make it into the military supply chain jams and stoppages could get the people in the field killed, and operations compromised. We owe the people in the field and our allies who also put their lives on the line much better than that.

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    PKM Ammunition in Stock:

    Now 600,000 rds in stock as of 24/03/2017, subject to prior sale to the first confirmed order

    PKM Ammunition in Stock: We also have 600,000 rds of 7.62 x 54R 148gr FMJ ball steel cased 2016 production ammunition in the United States for immediate shipment with new PKM links only. More Ammunition after that may be brought into the United States in April 2017, if it is not shipped elsewhere to support operations. Subject to prior sale(s), without notice

    The 600,000 round lot of new production 7.62 x 54R steel cased ammunition and 200,000 new production Eastern Standard combat qualified PKM links in 100rd belts with starter tab is $616.60 USD per 1000 before shipping

    We hadn't considered smaller lots but could sell 20,000 round of the same ammunition and links for $645.00 USD per 1000 before shipping which we just offered another forum member who asked. You can send a PM if you would like as well or use our contact page as well

    https://cainalongbranch.com/Contact_Us.php
    Last edited by Pathfinder; 04-19-2022 at 04:20 PM. Reason: 600,000 rounds now in stock

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    More new 7.62 x 54R PKM Links & Ammunition in Stock:

    We now have 4,000,000 PKM Links back in stock between & Domestic US CONUS & Europe

    We now have more 7.62 x 54R 148gr FMJ ball steel cased 2016/17 production non-corrosive Ersatz ammunition (1) in stock Domestic US CONUS, for immediate shipment with new PKM links only subject to prior sale to the first confirmed order (s). More Ammunition after that may be brought into the United States, if it is not shipped elsewhere to support operations. Subject to prior sale(s), without notice. Qualified ammunition stock varies, please inquire for assistance (Ext 224 or 222).

    For example: We will offer 200,000 rounds of ammunition with new production Eastern Standard combat qualified PKM links in 100rd belts with starter tab is $616.60 USD per 1000 before shipping. Ammunition & links packed separately at these prices. Some belt loaders available.

    We hadn't considered smaller lots but could sell 20,000 rounds of the same ammunition & links for $645.00 USD per 1000 before shipping which we just offered another forum member who asked. You can send a PM if you would like as well or use our contact page as well. PMs may be slower to answer with our operational work load

    https://cainalongbranch.com/Contact_Us.php

    (1) We produce brass cased 7.62 x 54R ammunition only; however, due to up & down shortages we also offer steel cased 7.62 x 54R ammunition for PKM use as a Ersatz*. This is good ammunition as a replacement for production shortfalls due to operational up tempo

    * Ersatz is a German word literally meaning substitute or replacement. Not substandard or low quality in any way. We simply produce and also prefer brass cased ammunition military operational use. We also realize some USG people use these forums as an information resource and we try to answer your serious questions in the “first pass” for the people in the field where our first loyalty lies. You and I get to go home at night. These people and our allies do not.

    Caveat Emptor: Some wooden cases of PKM links may look like ours but are not new, but used links, refinished and packed to look like new. In one instance even trying to copy our packaging to pass off as new production from the cases that we have already shipped nationwide in the U.S. alone since 2009. We have gone to great lengths to distance ourselves from these rascals in the U.S. market this year, once discovered including reporting them to both the FBI & BATF for investigation as counterfeit/fraud . You should also. These used links that have been passed off as qualified new production could fail in combat with fatal results, and compromised missions. More information upon request . Like the Klondike Gold Rush there are a lot of “Industry transients” that we have seen "pass though" field in our 32 years. Our company; same company, same business, same people. Next year these transients , including even some well-intentioned ones drawn by "the lure of the Klondike" or using OPM (other people's money) invested foolishly will be selling used car parts or mismatched book ends. Enough said
    Last edited by Pathfinder; 04-19-2022 at 04:21 PM. Reason: defective website link

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    Rather that the usual Bump Bump nonsense as if we all have suspension problems , we thought that we would share something of value with forum members which is as follows:

    Winston Churchill spoke quite eloquently about empathy; not sympathy but empathy - big difference when he talked about sitting down and at least listening to others you completely disagree with when he said:

    “You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.”

    “Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak. Courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen”

    “Never give in, never give in, never, never, never, never—in nothing, great or small, large or petty—never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.”

    As a follow on a truly excellent 87 second part interview with Retired Gen. Stanley McChrystal along those lines for leadership and also civility with others in our day to day affairs

    On GPS: Gen. McChrystal's checklist for leadership
    CNN's Fareed Zakaria
    Aug 29, 2015
    http://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2015/08...-checklist.cnn
    Last edited by Pathfinder; 12-11-2017 at 11:55 AM.

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    We have another 500,000 rds of 7.62 x 54R PKM ammunition to compliment the PKM links in stock, subject to prior sale

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    We also have a small quantity of belt loaders that can be included with PKM link and ammunition sales to support operations

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    We also have a small quantity of belt loaders that can be included with PKM link and ammunition sales to support operations

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    We also have a small quantity of belt loaders that can be included with PKM link and ammunition sales to support operations

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    We currently have 161 cases of 5600 new production PKM links (900,000 + links) in the United States alone, subject to prior sale

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