If I were him, I would have just stayed in jail and cooled my heels, ride it out and let all the anger die down. It's not like he's going to be able to work and hold a job short of getting a total make-over/plastic-surgery. May as well get free meals and room and board so at to not be a burden on his family.
Consider Casey Anthony -- guilty as fuck of killing her toddler and hiding the body so she could party like a single again -- even though the jury didn't convict her of murder, just the fact that she spent 4 years in jail was at least something to satisfy the community's bloodlust.
Zimmerman is going to need to do some time, or else he'll be a marked man.
"That tyranny has all the vices both of democracy and oligarchy is evident. As of oligarchy so of tyranny, the end is wealth; (for by wealth only can the tyrant maintain either his guard or his luxury). Both mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of their arms." -- Aristotle, Book V, 350 B.C.E
The precedent being set by all this is very bad, might as well have no neighborhood watches, no one can take interest of anything outside of their yard (probably homes), people must obey the phone commands of a 911 dispatcher, self defense must start from a presumption of guilt and not innocence, etc...
If Zimmerman is guilty your CCW's, right of self defense and carry firearms will be take a giant step to be worthless. This case might do more for the antigunners then anything Congress has managed in almost 20 years.
I don't agree. Every official neighborhood watch program out there instructs its watchers to NOT be armed, to NOT confront suspects, to just be good steward and call the cops and let them investigate. Nowhere does it say that a neighborhood watch "captain" is supposed to stalk a suspect then provoke him. From what we know of Trayvon's call to his girlfriend which ended just a minute before the shots rang out on the other 911 call, Trayvon was making a good faith effort to flee when Zimmerman caught up with him.
I certainly don't think this is a case that pro-gun folks should try to hang their hats on, or try to claim "Stand Your Ground" is justified here, or that law may very well be jeopardized indeed.
"That tyranny has all the vices both of democracy and oligarchy is evident. As of oligarchy so of tyranny, the end is wealth; (for by wealth only can the tyrant maintain either his guard or his luxury). Both mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of their arms." -- Aristotle, Book V, 350 B.C.E
there's too many "facts" in dispute . . . so far the only ones not in dispute the kid died of a GSW and Zimmerman fired the shot . . at the end of the trial I hope everyone can accept the verdict
All I know is that Zimmerman's lawyer really better shut his client up. The more he talks, the more he incriminates himself. Consider his non-apology at his bail hearing last week:
...which doesn't jive with what he told the 911 operator:I wanted to say I am sorry for the loss of your son. I did not know how old he was, Mr. Zimmerman, 28, said, speaking publicly for the first time about the Feb. 26 shooting. I thought he was a little bit younger than I am. I did not know if he was armed or not.
Dumb mother fucker needs to just shut the fuck up before he digs his hole any deeper.911 dispatcher: How old would you say he is?
Zimmerman: Hes got something on his shirt. About like his late teens.
He certainly shouldn't be posting any more on his web-site here: http://www.TheRealGeorgeZimmerman.com/
He's going to hang himself.
"That tyranny has all the vices both of democracy and oligarchy is evident. As of oligarchy so of tyranny, the end is wealth; (for by wealth only can the tyrant maintain either his guard or his luxury). Both mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of their arms." -- Aristotle, Book V, 350 B.C.E
While no one ever listens to me,
I am constantly being told to be quiet.
In a world of snowflakes,
be the heat..
Are you in a neighborhood watch program? I am and I can tell you Zimmerman was probably doing what most do in such a program daily (actually the day the Zimmerman story broke I had confronted a thug wannabee in the neighborhood with me being armed). It will simply be the end of many a neighborhood watch program due to lack of people willing to do it out of fear of arrest or the mantra of "neighborhood watch" now being used as code for "racist vigilante".
I would also predict this is the end of the time of expanding CCW rights, from here on out it's going to fight to keep what we have. It is foolish to think progunners will use Zimmerman as an example but I would bet you $100 within 90 days the anti's will. Then we have people like you are arguing the police (and it really doesn't have to be police when a 911 dispatcher will do) can phone in orders for civilians to follow (amazingly you're defending increasing the police state in a way you'd never follow yourself).
I am not as optimistic as you that people like you can attack these things on so many levels and they will prevail as they have.
From what I've seen this is clearly the intent.
They've been losing badly at all levels and needed something to turn the tides back in their favor.
The media cranked up their propaganda machine with pictures of a little boy and a story of this poor little Skittle eating waif murdered by a racist vigilante.
They have failed in their attempts at stopping laws giving citizens the right to CCW, castle doctrines, SYG, etc.........
But this case has given them new ground to stand on.
And anyone who thinks it's all just coincedence is a fool.
Last edited by weevil; 04-23-2012 at 09:36 PM.
Did anyone ask if Zimmerman yelled "HE'S COMING RIGHT FOR ME" ??
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