when do they grow conscience/thought

[l921428x]

people are growing clones, creating genes and playing GOD. what happens?

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2013/0...WhatsNewsForth

it makes its own decisions.

Forbin Project comes to mind.

[btcave]

An identical twin is essentially a "natural" clone.

AI is a whole different ball of wax. It won't have been honed by billions of years of trial and error.

Battlestar Galactica reimagined has some food for thought on AI evolution.

[l921428x]

this is not biology, with the billion of years.
this is tech and humans are teaching machines to teach.

[Kadmos]

Haven't some commercial aircraft been landing themselves for years now?

I get a drone doing it is a step further, but it seems like a small step

[btcave]

Haven't some commercial aircraft been landing themselves for years now?

I get a drone doing it is a step further, but it seems like a small step

You are correct.

I think it is when they start problem solving without human considerations that they might "realize" humans are at the root of "X" or "Y" problem so it solves the problem. People might not like the "solution".

[1 Patriot-of-many]

You are correct.

I think it is when they start problem solving without human considerations that they might "realize" humans are at the root of "X" or "Y" problem so it solves the problem. People might not like the "solution".

Hopefully they come to the logical conclusion that commies/liberals/democrats need to be targeted.

[l921428x]

Haven't some commercial aircraft been landing themselves for years now?

I get a drone doing it is a step further, but it seems like a small step

not at SFO.

[LAGC]

not at SFO.

Ouch! Good one...

Those 777's are EXPENSIVE too...

[El Jefe]

Ouch! Good one...

Those 777's are EXPENSIVE too...

Ha! Like you've ever gave a damn about "other people's" money.

Parasites need to just STFU!

[Krupski]

people are growing clones, creating genes and playing GOD. what happens?

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2013/0...WhatsNewsForth

it makes its own decisions.

Forbin Project comes to mind.

They may eventually be able to "clone" a biologically exact copy of a person or other animal, but they cannot copy the mind.

A person's mind is the sum total of all learning and experiences. It's formed over the person's lifetime. It's not "recorded" anywhere (there's no "memory DNA").

A clone of a person would probably start out as an infant, and learn over time as any naturally born animal does.

BTW, have you ever seen the movie "Brainstorm (1983)"? It's a rather cheesy movie, but with a great idea: They are able to record a person's mind on an "optical tape recorder", then play it back to other people.

There's one scene where one of the scientists is having a heart attack. She quickly puts on the equipment and records it all... right up to her death.

It's a great movie.

[Krupski]

Haven't some commercial aircraft been landing themselves for years now?

I get a drone doing it is a step further, but it seems like a small step

The Apollo lunar module was fully capable of an automatic, hands off landing - on the moon - in 1969.

Of course, no self respecting pilot would allow a COMPUTER to fly the vehicle, so the astronauts took over and did the final landing manually.

Neil Armstrong claimed he had to avoid an area of boulders (true), but he COULD have just told the computer to change the landing spot (redesignate the LPD) and let the computer do it.

But being a hotshot pilot, no way would he do that!

[Krupski]

You are correct.

I think it is when they start problem solving without human considerations that they might "realize" humans are at the root of "X" or "Y" problem so it solves the problem. People might not like the "solution".

That's the premise of the movie "Colossus, the Forbin Project". Two supercomputers (one in the US and one in Russia, both built for national defense), link up, teach each other and learn at electronic speed.

They quickly come to the decision that humans have no value other than to serve the machines. Colossus even orders executions of people who plot against "him" (like trying to turn off the power or upload a program to crash "him") and the humans have to obey because Colossus has full control of nuclear weapons and will launch a strike if not obeyed.

It's a good movie if you've never seen it.

An interesting thing in the movie is that Colossus designs and has built a voice synthesizer so "he" can speak. The movie was made way before there ever was a real voice synthesizer circuit, but the one in the movie sounds EXACTLY like the old fashioned first ones made for the PC.

[l921428x]

i can understand why you would want to be the first human to land a ship on the Moon.

[Krupski]

i can understand why you would want to be the first human to land a ship on the Moon.

All of the Apollo astronauts were highly competent pilots and test pilots. Hotshots. The best of the best. There's NO WAY they would let a COMPUTER fly the spacecraft for them.