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    So much for re-importing American guns

    Administration announces new gun control measures, targets military surplus imports

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...#ixzz2dMq9b5MK


    The Obama administration unexpectedly announced two new gun control measures on Thursday, including one that would curb the import of military surplus weapons, in a move that could anger collectors.

    Vice President Biden was set to announce the new measures later Thursday morning. They took the form of executive actions, which President Obama added to the list of 23 steps the White House already determined the president could take on his own.

    The steps come after Congress declined to pass any gun control legislation earlier this year despite an aggressive White House push for action in the wake of the Newton, Conn., shooting massacre. With the political world focused on Mideast tensions and looming fiscal battles, the move signaled Obama's intent to show he hasn't lost sight of the issue.

    One new policy will end a government practice that lets military weapons, sold or donated by the U.S. to allies, be reimported into the U.S. by private entities, where some may end up on the streets. The White House said the U.S. has approved 250,000 of those guns to be reimported since 2005; under the new policy, only museums and a few other entities like the government will be eligible to reimport military-grade firearms.

    The Obama administration is also proposing a federal rule to stop those who would be ineligible to pass a background check from skirting the law by registering a gun to a corporation or trust. The new rule would require people associated with those entities, like beneficiaries and trustees, to undergo the same type of fingerprint-based background checks as individuals if they want to register guns.

    The event in the Roosevelt Room where Biden is speaking will also mark the ceremonial swearing-in for Todd Jones, whose confirmation to head the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives after six years of political wrangling to fill that position was another of Obama's post-Newtown priorities. A Senate deal to approve the president's pending nominations after Democrats threatened to change Senate rules cleared the way for Jones' confirmation last month.

    Still out of reach for Obama were the steps that gun control advocates and the administration's own review say could most effectively combat gun violence in the U.S., like an assault weapons ban and fewer exceptions for background checks for individual sales. Only Congress can act on those fronts.

    Although Obama and Biden have said the fight is not over, there is scant evidence that there is more support for gun control legislation than there was in April, when efforts died in the Senate amid staunch opposition from the National Rifle Association and most Republican senators.

    "Sooner or later, we are going to get this right," Obama said that day in the White House Rose Garden, with the families of Newtown victims and former Rep. Gabrielle Giffords -- herself a victim of a gunman -- at his side. "The memories of these children demand it, and so do the American people," the president said at the time.

    In the months following the Senate vote, Biden has claimed that at a handful of lawmakers who opposed expanded background checks have told him privately they've changed their minds and want another chance. But Biden and White House officials have not named any of those lawmakers.

    These days, Obama mentions gun control with far less regularity than when it appeared the Senate was poised to take action, although Obama did meet Tuesday with 18 city mayors to discuss ways to contain youth violence. And with immigration and pressing fiscal issues dominating Congress' agenda, the prospects for reviving gun legislation appear negligible. With Jones' confirmation at ATF, the White House has completed or made significant progress on all but one of the 23 executive actions Obama had previously ordered in January, the White House said. Still lingering is an effort to finalize regulations to require insurers to cover mental health at parity with medical benefits, although the White House said that it is committed to making that happen by the end of 2013.

    The new rules for guns registered to corporations will follow the traditional regulatory process, with a 90-day comment period before ATF reviews suggestions and finalizes the rule. Last year, ATF received 39,000 requests to register guns to corporations and trusts.

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    So no more M1 Garands or Carbines. Oh and trusts are harder to build for the ATF.

    Fuck this president. Hes doing nothing but poking his finger in our eye and he knows it.
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    Well this sucks. Can't say I am surprised though.
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    Same shit Clintshitstain pulled in the 90's. Remember the Danish M1 Garand Kits that Tapco had? That's why, couldn't be reimported in 1 piece as functional weapons.

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    Why is obama-messiah afraid of M1 Garands? Maybe because they were used to put down one of the worst despots this world has ever known?

    This is a quote from a reply to a John Lott editorial about the stupidity of the latest from obama-messiah. I quoted it for two reasons, one being it will not be up very long, and two because with the current regime honesty is not tolerated, but this guy is pushing his luck in his honest use of part of the first amendment.

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    this idiot knows nothing, he is trying to disarm the people of the U.S. by any means he can to prevent us from exercising the real reason the second amendment was put into the constitution.... to remove a government that has become illegal and tyrannical... (obama administration). rise up America and remove this administation





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    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/...#ixzz2dPUxuWjj

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    Again, this is a copy of what someone on Fox said and not something I would say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imanaknut View Post
    Why is obama-messiah afraid of M1 Garands? Maybe because they were used to put down one of the worst despots this world has ever known?

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    Quote Originally Posted by imanaknut View Post
    Why is obama-messiah afraid of M1 Garands? Maybe because they were used to put down one of the worst despots this world has ever known?
    He is trying to keep those 9+ pound rifles with their large 8 round magazines out of the hands of criminals. Who knows what mayhem they would inflict, once they learned how to load an en bloc clips with ammo and, more importantly, into the rifle. This is all for our safety.
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