what do you think are the Russians intentions?

[Ruskiegunlover]

Why stop there? Who would stop him?


I do wonder if this might stop Russian ammo imports.....

[Schuetzenman]

Why stop there? Who would stop him?


I do wonder if this might stop Russian ammo imports.....

I can pretty much assure you those are going to come to a screeching halt! Only the permits to import and product already on the water heading for a US port may be allowed in. After that, game over. You've seen the last of Russian Surplus 5.45X39 or new 7.62x39 and all other chamberings unless it gets funneled in through a 3rd neutral party country.

[NAPOTS]

Well if after this is over Ukraine decides to join NATO, and they switch to .223, they can surplus all of the x39, and, sadly, cut up all of their AKS and import them as kits.

[Schuetzenman]

Well if after this is over Ukraine decides to join NATO, and they switch to .223, they can surplus all of the x39, and, sadly, cut up all of their AKS and import them as kits.

Nice thought but ... my money is on Putin for the win. As mentioned our ball-less wonder Kenyan poser Prez will do jack and shit to stop Russian aggression.

[FunkyPertwee]

Ukraine has been supplying Wolf ammo with 7.62x39 the last year or so. I wonder if that will impact ammo prices at all.

[Pat Garrett]

We can reload. Steel cases are a pain in the ass to reload, but I've reloaded several thousands of them and they work just fine.

And all of the AK guys need an excuse to add an AR to the collection.:

[was_peacemaker]

It appears its more than a peacekeeping force to protect ethnic Russians in the Ukraine. Check out picture 11 in this slide. It is mobile artillery http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/01/world/...html?hpt=hp_t1

Remember their tactics in Grozny? They love them some artillery support.

[1 Patriot-of-many]

One of my heroes, General Curtis E. LeMay summed it all up pretty well:

"When war is forced upon you, kill as many of the enemy as you possibly can, just as fast as you possibly can and when you've killed enough of them, they'll quit fighting you."
Curtis E. LeMay

Mine too. If he'd been allowed to do what he wanted the Soviet Union/Russia wouldn't have existed as a threat since the 40's and North Korea would just be Korea and the Chinese would've had a nice bloody nose.

[1 Patriot-of-many]

It appears its more than a peacekeeping force to protect ethnic Russians in the Ukraine. Check out picture 11 in this slide. It is mobile artillery http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/01/world/...html?hpt=hp_t1

Remember their tactics in Grozny? They love them some artillery support.

Leave it to the all enlightened media to not know the difference between a tank and SP artillery.

[Penguin]

Is that the one that says we will help defend them if they give the nukes back to Russia? The one brokered during the Clinton admin?

That's the one I was refering to.

[was_peacemaker]

Leave it to the all enlightened media to not know the difference between a tank and SP artillery.

Well....we are talking about the same folks who call bolt action .22s "assault weapons", and believe that AK's have magical powers.

[was_peacemaker]

We can reload. Steel cases are a pain in the ass to reload, but I've reloaded several thousands of them and they work just fine.

And all of the AK guys need an excuse to add an AR to the collection.:

Really?!? I had no idea steel cases could be reloaded. Huh...learn something new everyday.

[was_peacemaker]

I can pretty much assure you those are going to come to a screeching halt! Only the permits to import and product already on the water heading for a US port may be allowed in. After that, game over. You've seen the last of Russian Surplus 5.45X39 or new 7.62x39 and all other chamberings unless it gets funneled in through a 3rd neutral party country.

If I am not mistaken a lot of the Wolf, Brown Bear, and other Russian ammo comes from various factories in Russia and Eastern Europe. If that did halt...then it would open up an opportunity for someone in eastern Europe to jump on the market. Of course this could be my wishful thinking to.

[FunkyPertwee]

If I am not mistaken a lot of the Wolf, Brown Bear, and other Russian ammo comes from various factories in Russia and Eastern Europe. If that did halt...then it would open up an opportunity for someone in eastern Europe to jump on the market. Of course this could be my wishful thinking to.

Romania currently exports 5.56 and 7.62x39 to the US.

5.56 under the "hot shot" brand and 7.62x39 under the "Red Army Standard" brand. They must really hate the "Red Army" branding considering how much they hate the Ruskies.

[was_peacemaker]

Romania currently exports 5.56 and 7.62x39 to the US.

5.56 under the "hot shot" brand and 7.62x39 under the "Red Army Standard" brand. They must really hate the "Red Army" branding considering how much they hate the Ruskies.

Did they change manufacturing arsenals from the Ukraine to Romania recently for "Red Army" ammo? Because on this link it shows its made in the Ukraine. http://www.bulkammo.com/bulk-7-62x39...rfmjredarmy-20

[FunkyPertwee]

Did they change manufacturing arsenals from the Ukraine to Romania recently for "Red Army" ammo? Because on this link it shows its made in the Ukraine. http://www.bulkammo.com/bulk-7-62x39...rfmjredarmy-20

Red Army Standard has Ukraine and Romanian.

http://www.sgammo.com/product/red-ar...-ammunition--0

http://www.sgammo.com/product/red-army-standard/1080-round-case-762x39-fmj-123-grain-steel-case-non-corrosive-ammunition-r



Also, Wolf has Russian and Ukrainian available.

Actually I just noticed there is some Wolf made by Barnaul. Barnaul makes good ammo usually under the "Bear" brands.

[FunkyPertwee]

Just found some Bosnian "Red Army Standard".

http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.c...dir=18|830|852

[Schuetzenman]

Did they change manufacturing arsenals from the Ukraine to Romania recently for "Red Army" ammo? Because on this link it shows its made in the Ukraine. http://www.bulkammo.com/bulk-7-62x39...rfmjredarmy-20

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Yep Romanian. So this would indicate a corporation sourcing from multiple factories and marketing under one brand name. The Wolf Gold is an example of this as well as it is not made in Russia. Which is why it actually doesn't suck like steel cased Wolf .223 ammo.

[l921428x]

read the 5th paragraph.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...03-02-08-20-56

[l921428x]

Ammo imports? Hell do you not think this administration will grab this opportunity to stop imports? This is heaven for the gun grabbers.